Watching Kai in English and watching DBZ subtitled

[JEFFMAN219]

How many of you guys watch the original DBZ in Japanese and watch Kai only in English?

[B]

I wouldn't say I watch Kai only in English, but I've seen it more that way. It's a version of the show I can A) understand whilst not giving it my full attention and doing something else, and B) not cringe at how awful it is.

But it's all case-by-case. I've let the original Dragon Ball play in the background in Japanese. I just like hearing Nozawa.

[Insertclevername]

As with B, I've probably seen the Kai dub more than the original version. However, that's because I've only really seen Kai on American television and haven't really made any effort to collect the DVD/Blurays. From what I've seen, the dub didn't really bother me.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I wouldn't say that I watch only Japanese or English in the case of either DBZ or Kai. Having said that, when I'm watching DBZ, the majority of the time I'm watching it in Japanese, and when I'm watching Kai, the majority of the time I'm watching it in English.

I know not everybody agrees with this, but in my personal opinion, DBZ was already done perfectly well in Japanese. Without naming which performances, it seems to me that many of the Japanese performances in Kai have a bored, "We've done this eighteen million times" feel to it, which is the complete opposite feeling that I get from watching the English dub, where many of the actors were eager to make up for less-than-stellar performances in the DBZ dub. If it weren't for Kai's English dub, I'd have little to no interest in Kai.

[baneofdemon22]

I'm not really understanding the question, but I watch Dragon Ball Z in Japanese, and Kai in both English and Japanese. I've seen the funimation dub of Dragon Ball Z to it's completion, but I don't like it after watching it in Japanese.

[Kakarot88]

Hate Kai because I find the American acting forced and their presentation of the accurate Japanese Dialogue stilted and the musical replacement score with repetitive song atrocious. Have not given the Japanese version a try because I don't like my show being cropped and they got it right the first time around (except for Urunai Baba, hate that voice).

On the other hand I watch Dragon Ball Z either in Japanese with Subtitles or in English w/the Bruce Faulconer score music (still with subtitles cuz I like knowing the real lines).

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I watch both Original and Kai dubbed. Mostly because I hate reading and so I don't really want to be reading(subtitles) when I'm watching something. Obvious exceptions are when watching either the OVA's or BoG. But I much prefer watching it dubbed, regardless of it's accuracy.

[Shnuki]

Well, that's actually my preffered way to watch these shows, so you now at least know that someone like that actually exists

However, I do like to listen to other dubs, so it's not like it is the only way that I watch both shows.

[JEFFMAN219]

Hate Kai because I find the American acting forced and their presentation of the accurate Japanese Dialogue stilted and the musical replacement score with repetitive song atrocious. Have not given the Japanese version a try because I don't like my show being cropped and they got it right the first time around (except for Urunai Baba, hate that voice).

On the other hand I watch Dragon Ball Z either in Japanese with Subtitles or in English w/the Bruce Faulconer score music (still with subtitles cuz I like knowing the real lines).

What do you mean the acting feels forced? In my opinion the acting sounds natural and much better then the original dub and this is coming from a guy who is a fan of both dubs.

[dbboxkaifan]

All Dragon Ball in Japanese w/Eng subs, except for "Ocean Dub" Z Eps. 01-53 / Films 1-3.

The cast of Ocean Group did a great job and I'd watch the entire series, games and etc if they were the ones dubbing it in English because the vocals suit the characters precisely, especially Peter Kelamis which is an English Masako.

As for Kai, if I were to watch it it'd be all in Japanese with the original score, but I'm not ever going to rewatch that unless for the Saiyan and Freeza arcs.

[Kakarot88]

Hate Kai because I find the American acting forced and their presentation of the accurate Japanese Dialogue stilted and the musical replacement score with repetitive song atrocious. Have not given the Japanese version a try because I don't like my show being cropped and they got it right the first time around (except for Urunai Baba, hate that voice).

On the other hand I watch Dragon Ball Z either in Japanese with Subtitles or in English w/the Bruce Faulconer score music (still with subtitles cuz I like knowing the real lines).

What do you mean the acting feels forced? In my opinion the acting sounds natural and much better then the original dub and this is coming from a guy who is a fan of both dubs.

By forced I mean: monotone, bored, poor delivery, lack of enthusiasm or urgency. Forced also include the general way in which the audio does not match up with the mouth flaps to further accentuate just how awkward their delivery of these lines.

I'm not knocking anyone for liking it. Lots of ppl here love it, I'm just not one of them.

More specifically, I also find it overrated and poorly done (see mouth flaps and monotone). To me it lacks heart and any quirkiness, and the build up to things just isn't there the pacing is off. The funi dub (especially the singles without the redub which is the one I watch has major problems but it has heart. The actors feel like their are interacting and are in the moment. Kai sounds like they are reading lines bleh.)

The only good thing I can think of is Chris Ayers who on the whole did a decent job as Freeza, and who I have no idea why people just go all goey over maybe its solely bc Linda Young was just that different of a portrayal. Either way towards the end even he just starts sounding either like he's bored and reading lines, from his 100% form 4 Freeza onward I just can't do it, he and my fav American Goku, Sean Schemmel, just did a piss poor job...the worst to me absolute worst is when Vegeta goes Super Saiyan I was like "Wow....uh ok so nothing no big deal I guess?...and I'm done" lol

I'm a still check out Boo and hope its better when it comes out.

[JEFFMAN219]

Hate Kai because I find the American acting forced and their presentation of the accurate Japanese Dialogue stilted and the musical replacement score with repetitive song atrocious. Have not given the Japanese version a try because I don't like my show being cropped and they got it right the first time around (except for Urunai Baba, hate that voice).

On the other hand I watch Dragon Ball Z either in Japanese with Subtitles or in English w/the Bruce Faulconer score music (still with subtitles cuz I like knowing the real lines).

What do you mean the acting feels forced? In my opinion the acting sounds natural and much better then the original dub and this is coming from a guy who is a fan of both dubs.

By forced I mean: monotone, bored, poor delivery, lack of enthusiasm or urgency. Forced also include the general way in which the audio does not match up with the mouth flaps to further accentuate just how awkward their delivery of these lines.

I'm not knocking anyone for liking it. Lots of ppl here love it, I'm just not one of them.

More specifically, I also find it overrated and poorly done (see mouth flaps and monotone). To me it lacks heart and any quirkiness, and the build up to things just isn't there the pacing is off. The funi dub (especially the singles without the redub which is the one I watch has major problems but it has heart. The actors feel like their are interacting and are in the moment. Kai sounds like they are reading lines bleh.)

The only good thing I can think of is Chris Ayers who on the whole did a decent job as Freeza, and who I have no idea why people just go all goey over maybe its solely bc Linda Young was just that different of a portrayal. Either way towards the end even he just starts sounding either like he's bored and reading lines, from his 100% form 4 Freeza onward I just can't do it, he and my fav American Goku, Sean Schemmel, just did a piss poor job...the worst to me absolute worst is when Vegeta goes Super Saiyan I was like "Wow....uh ok so nothing no big deal I guess?...and I'm done" lol

I'm a still check out Boo and hope its better when it comes out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Ux5cs2G1g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf6qeO-Wd2c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQimwco0qo4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlNXhGizk3w

Well from these interviews Chris Sabat and Seán Schemmel were excited to be dubbing dragon ball z kai.

[DBZ Mick]

Watch both in Japanese. The only Dragonball related thing I watch in English nowadays is GT because of nostalgia. Strange because I can't watch Z's dub anymore but I enjoy GT's.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Hate Kai because I find the American acting forced and their presentation of the accurate Japanese Dialogue stilted and the musical replacement score with repetitive song atrocious. Have not given the Japanese version a try because I don't like my show being cropped and they got it right the first time around (except for Urunai Baba, hate that voice).

On the other hand I watch Dragon Ball Z either in Japanese with Subtitles or in English w/the Bruce Faulconer score music (still with subtitles cuz I like knowing the real lines).

I cant watch kai simply because a lot of the acting felt very overdone at times and yes, forced. Especially Freeza. While Kai's script was more mature and dramatic, it was also written in such a way that nearly all of his lines had to be delivered as though he were on an episode of Speed Racer, speaking as swiftly as possible without savoring the dialogue. Not to mention I find the idea of giving an evil character a British accent (and an inconsistent one at that) immensely lazy and cliche. There is no weight to his performance from the overarticulate dialogue.

Then there's Piccolo's dry monotone voice also bores me.

Watch both in Japanese. The only Dragonball related thing I watch in English nowadays is GT because of nostalgia. Strange because I can't watch Z's dub anymore but I enjoy GT's.

I feel more opposite in that regard, I can't watch GT in english simply because of dub Pan and The American music..... worst soundtrack I've ever heard...

[Vice]

Currently watching DBZ in Japanese and plan on watching dubbed Kai right after.

[LordCrumb]

I watch all of the series in English, but I turn on the Japanese Subtitles too. I enjoy the English voice actors, but I also like to know what they are really meant to be saying.

[Codarik]

I do the opposite, watch Z in English and Kai in Japanese.

[dprez]

I'm looking forward to collecting and watching Kai in english straight through for the first time. I wouldn't care much to watch Kai in Japanese since I have the original for that, and like others have said the FUNi cast were eager to re-dub the show while the Japanese cast were old and done with it, plus the music wouldn't do it for me like the original did. Watching Kai in English with the replacement score would be more tolerable.

For me, the main selling point of Kai is the better English dub, so I'd prefer it that way. DBZ subbed is fantastic. DBZ dubbed not so much.

[DBZ Mick]

I feel more opposite in that regard, I can't watch GT in english simply because of dub Pan and The American music..... worst soundtrack I've ever heard...

I watch with the Japanese soundtrack, it's much better that way. I also see english Pan almost on level with the seiyuu so she doesn't really bother me.

[Metalwario64]

Japanese Pan (same actress as Videl) at least makes her sound mostly like a kid. Her English actress doesn't, and she just plain can't act.

Not saying Pan was a great character in the original, but in the dub she's more grating to me. I remember Blue Water's Pan being better, and she was an actual kid.