Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 14; Still Unreleased

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Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by Fizzer » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:07 pm

I'm mostly looking forward to these because Kai's Kikuchi placement is hard to do worse than. If the replacement score is decent and they're are no other major fuck-ups, then I'll have a version of Z that doesn't have a huge flaw.

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Post by linkdude20002001 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:20 am

ACTUAL NEWS ALERT

So, I recently had asked Peter Berring -the composer of Funimation's original English dub of Dragon Ball- if he remembered who song the theme song, and his reply was Dave Steele.
So, I look up his website, and what do I find? He has returned to the Dragon Ball series nearly two decades later to sing the theme song for the new Ocean Productions dub of Dragon Ball Kai!
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:28 am

linkdude20002001 wrote:ACTUAL NEWS ALERT

So, I recently had asked Peter Berring -the composer of Funimation's original English dub of Dragon Ball- if he remembered who song the theme song, and his reply was Dave Steele.
So, I look up his website, and what do I find? He has returned to the Dragon Ball series nearly two decades later to sing the theme song for the new Ocean Productions dub of Dragon Ball Kai!
Hmmmmm...........interesting..........this would indeed appear to lend credibility to Sean Schemmel's claim that the music will be replaced.
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Post by Castor Troy » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:29 am

linkdude20002001 wrote:ACTUAL NEWS ALERT

So, I recently had asked Peter Berring -the composer of Funimation's original English dub of Dragon Ball- if he remembered who song the theme song, and his reply was Dave Steele.
So, I look up his website, and what do I find? He has returned to the Dragon Ball series nearly two decades later to sing the theme song for the new Ocean Productions dub of Dragon Ball Kai!
This is the absolute worst thing I have ever heard.... :x

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Post by linkdude20002001 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:32 am

Yeah... Kind of disappointing to say the least. If it had been as good as the theme used for Dragon Ball, that would be a different story. Actually, this has me a bit worried about how the BGM will turn out...
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Post by bkev » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:40 am

Yikes. That's... not even ironically good. Shame, too -- I liked the first DragonBall theme, it was quite catchy and captured the adventurous spirit of the show.

I don't care about the music given Japan can't even decide what belongs with Kai. At this point, I'm just worried about content edits. My money is on their footage being based on the Nicktoons edit, given that Ocean is listed as responsible for the edits in the broadcast credits.
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Post by El Diabeetus » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:22 am

I'll just say what I said on Twitter. It sounds like a bad Power Rangers theme (read as rejected Power Rangers theme). I'm baffled that Dragon Ball still is getting replacement music. Makes me glad that other than dubbing songs, FUNimation left the music untouched for their dub. If the script and acting is well done I can forgive a terrible opening.

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Post by Gonstead » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:36 am

Ugh.... I can't even find enjoyment of of "so bad, it's good" for that. Just... why?
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Post by kei17 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:44 am

Part of me is disappointed, but another part of me as a dub collector is kind of excited about seeing something very different from other dubs.

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Post by qjz123 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:02 am

That seriously was awful, it's even worse than the rap openings 4kids does for their dubs.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:05 am

One of the things I'm having a hard time determining is whether or not that's a brief sample or the whole song. When I saw that it was 22 seconds, I assumed it was just a sample and that all the other samples were that length as well...but all the other ones (at least on that site) are longer, and sound like complete themes.

If that 22-second clip is really the whole song....well.......no comment.
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Post by TheAldella » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:25 am

Well, I um....It's no Dragon Soul. Not by a long-shot, but I don't dislike it at all.
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Post by kei17 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:55 am

The quality aside, is it really a song to the dub? It doesn't say "Kai".

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Post by El Diabeetus » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:02 am

kei17 wrote:The quality aside, is it really a song to the dub? It doesn't say "Kai".
It is, it's subtle, but after Dragon Ball Z, he quickly sings Kai after it.

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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:11 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote:One of the things I'm having a hard time determining is whether or not that's a brief sample or the whole song. When I saw that it was 22 seconds, I assumed it was just a sample and that all the other samples were that length as well...but all the other ones (at least on that site) are longer, and sound like complete themes.

If that 22-second clip is really the whole song....well.......no comment.
The previous alternate dubs used 1 minute opening songs.

Assuming that's just a sample, and the song has a proper intro I think it's okay. The "... Kai" part feels very un-Dragon Ball, but the rest seems like a standard hype intro.
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Post by Tsukento » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:14 am

Castor Troy wrote:This is the absolute worst thing I have ever heard.... :x
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Post by kei17 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:10 am

SSJ4 Furanki wrote:
kei17 wrote:The quality aside, is it really a song to the dub? It doesn't say "Kai".
It is, it's subtle, but after Dragon Ball Z, he quickly sings Kai after it.
Oh, how could I miss that?

Though the sample on the page still must miss the intro part as Super Saiyan Prime stated, I made a quick fan edit of the opening in less than 10 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQc7Geo2Zpw

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Post by El Diabeetus » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:14 am

kei17 wrote:
SSJ4 Furanki wrote:
kei17 wrote:The quality aside, is it really a song to the dub? It doesn't say "Kai".
It is, it's subtle, but after Dragon Ball Z, he quickly sings Kai after it.
Oh, how could I miss that?

Though the sample on the page still must miss the intro part as Super Saiyan Prime stated, I made a quick fan edit of the opening in about 10 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQc7Geo2Zpw
You made that work well with the animation, well, as well as it can. I'm surprised he was allowed to post the sample up with how hush-hush the people behind the dub have been about it. A lot of things with Kai are open secrets, haha!

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Post by 90sDBZ » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:03 am

That was terrible. Why couldn't they just give us a remake of Rock the Dragon.

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