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by Flame Dragon » Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:27 am
Blade wrote:kei17 wrote:http://www.fujitv.co.jp/tokuhen/14spring/new.html
Videl and Babidi are recast. Shino Kakinuma for Videl, and Bin Shimada for Babidi. WHAT THE FUCK. This really, really sucks.
And it says that the music composer is Sumitomo, of course.
From your avatars, I get the distinct impression that Videl is somewhat of a favorite character of yours, so that must really be tough to swallow

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by coola » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:18 am
Shino Kakinuma was great as Naru in Sailor Moon, so, i wonder how she will handle Videl, (I hope she will get back for New Sailor Moon) still, it is little strange, to replace one veteran actress with another veteran actress. I might be cruel, but, I'm glad Toei finish with Kai. I always find it very cheap cash in.
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by ShinGaijin » Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:23 pm
Shino Kakinuma has already taken the role of Videl in the Crossover, her performance was quite pleasant IMO.
That said, the voice of Yuko Minaguchi is very sexy

, it's a shame.
As Cold Skin said, it may give an interesting new vision of the character.
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by JulieYBM » Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:33 pm
Isn't Kakinuma the wife of Furukawa Toshio?
Either way, this still sucks.

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by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:00 pm
ShinGaijin wrote:Shino Kakinuma has already taken the role of Videl in the Crossover, her performance was quite pleasant IMO.
Which crossover? I assume you're talking about the One Piece/Toriko/DBZ thing, but just wanted to check and make sure.
I don't really have any thoughts on the replacement for Babidi, since honestly, I'm not that big on Yanami's work for the character to begin with. I'm pretty upset at the replacement of Videl though, as Minaguchi is one of my favorites out of the original cast.

There is that whole studying in America thing if I recall though, so maybe she just plain wasn't available for this? With any luck, she'll still be the main person for the role, and they'll only use this Kakinuma lady at times that Minaguchi is unavailable.Still would suck, but it's better than a permanent replacement.
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by TheGmGoken » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:04 pm
Videl old voice is being replaced. That's sad. How good is the new voice actor? What other roles she played
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by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:14 pm
Well, here's her
ANN profile. Hmm...I guess she really was Videl already in that big crossover. I don't remember Videl even talking there though, so maybe that's how nobody really caught that it was someone else other than Minaguchi?
Unless ANN is missing something, it looks like she hasn't really done a whole lot, and nothing that I've seen other than that crossover. I really don't know what to expect from her Videl now.
Oh, and you were right JulieYBM - it's Furukawa's wife, apparently.
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by JulieYBM » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:27 pm
Videl had a single line in the crossover. I don't even remember when it was, either. Another oddity, Oolong doesn't appear on screen by Tatsuta Naoki voices him during the battle royale.
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by ShinGaijin » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:36 pm
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Well, here's her
ANN profile. Hmm...I guess she really was Videl already in that big crossover. I don't remember Videl even talking there though, so maybe that's how nobody really caught that it was someone else other than Minaguchi?
She was talking...2 or 3 lines

but the few she did, it was good.
Now that the choice of Norihito Sumitomo is official, we can talk about it a little, right ?

Do you guys think that Toei will make a complete rescoring of the show ?
Given the awesome works from Kei17 (ex :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEX-WiC_1c ) it would be great, really !
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by Freeza Soldier #156 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:42 pm
kei17 wrote:http://www.fujitv.co.jp/tokuhen/14spring/new.html
Videl and Babidi are recast. Shino Kakinuma for Videl, and Bin Shimada for Babidi. WHAT THE FUCK. This really, really sucks.
And it says that the music composer is Sumitomo, of course.
I may be mistaken but doesn't it also say in the description that the episode starts with Gohan going to high school? If so, I guess this confirms that the Ano-yo’ichi Budokai has indeed been completely cut. I was pretty sure that it would be, but I know that it was still kind of up in the air since scenes were shown at the end of the Cell arc.
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by TheBlackPaladin » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:05 pm
It's unfortunate that Yuko Minaguchi won't be returning. If I remember correctly, though, didn't she say after Daisuke Gori tragically died that if he wasn't going to play Mr. Satan, that she didn't want to play Videl?
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by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:10 pm
TheBlackPaladin wrote:It's unfortunate that Yuko Minaguchi won't be returning. If I remember correctly, though, didn't she say after Daisuke Gori tragically died that if he wasn't going to play Mr. Satan, that she didn't want to play Videl?
She did, but I have a feeling that was just the grief talking, which is completely understandable. She played Videl again for Battle of Gods after all, and that was the newer Mr. Satain seiyuu.
Although, I guess it's not impossible that she agreed to try it out since it was such a big movie, and found that she just can't do it anymore after all...
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by kei17 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:12 pm
TheBlackPaladin wrote:If I remember correctly, though, didn't she say after Daisuke Gori tragically died that if he wasn't going to play Mr. Satan, that she didn't want to play Videl?
Really, I'm enough of this bullshit. Then why was she there in BoG? She herself did state that she just accidentally said some excessive things in her sorrow and she doesn't really want to quit the role.
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by ShinGaijin » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:19 pm
kei17 wrote:Really, I'm enough of this bullshit. Then why was she there in BoG? She herself did state that she just accidentally said some excessive things in her sorrow and she doesn't really want to quit the role.
The simplest explanation would be ... "¥", isn't it ?

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by kei17 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:27 pm
Cold Skin wrote:^ I never really got a good grasp of those things, but wasn't it already known that the voice actress for Videl was not easily available, and even made a special effort to come back for
Battle of Gods? Like, she's studying in America or something?
*snip*
Somehow, I still feel
Kei is going to bash her new voice (and probably acting) no matter what it turns out to be like!

She occasionally comes back and do other works, too. But probably there wasn't enough time for her to join in a one year long show. I think I won't bash Kakinuma if she's good enough. What I like is the character itself and not Minaguchi's voice anyway. Honestly, I'm more worried about Shimada's Babidi more. I love Yanami's awesomely mean sounding performance in Z.
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Gyt Kaliba wrote:Well, here's her
ANN profile. Hmm...I guess she really was Videl already in that big crossover. I don't remember Videl even talking there though, so maybe that's how nobody really caught that it was someone else other than Minaguchi?
Here's her line in the crossover special.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:32 pm
Thanks for that. Hmm...obviously one line alone isn't really enough to judge her acting by, but the voice itself seems fitting.
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by MagicBox » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:37 pm
I always found it strange that they went through the trouble of replacing Minaguchi for that one line that any character could have said...
I guess I can understand Yanami stepping down as Bobidi. It's a pretty high-energy role; maybe he just doesn't feel like doing all the screaming? I don't know if I'd be able to do it if I was approaching 83 (though he sounded like he was bouncing off the walls in the new Yatterman show a few years ago...). As long as he's still on the show as the narrator and Kaio, I'm fine.
But man, losing Minaguchi is big. She's one of my favorite Dragon Ball veterans. I sure hope it's just a temporary change until she finishes school.
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by El Diabeetus » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:40 pm
It seems like there's more recasts in the Japanese version than the English version. Which surprises me, sucks Minaguchi got replaced, but, I'm indifferent to Yanami not being Babidi anymore. I always thought it sounded like his Kaioh pitched up slightly being evil. Kinda of reminds me of Don Brown with his Garlic Jr. just sounding like an evil Kaioh. Not sure how Videl will turn out. Weird to think the dub might end up keeping all of their original voices for this arc while the Original Japanese isn't.
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by kei17 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:56 pm
ShinGaijin wrote:Now that the choice of Norihito Sumitomo is official, we can talk about it a little, right ?

Do you guys think that Toei will make a complete rescoring of the show ?
Given the awesome works from Kei17 (ex :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEX-WiC_1c ) it would be great, really !
A complete rescoring? Do you mean rescoring the entire series including the pre-Buu arcs? That'd be a real mess once again and there's definitely no point in doing that from a commercial perspective, but honestly, part of me as a DB music nerd definitely wants to see that happening.
Now that you mention it, I made this about a year ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKrOSwH_Zt0
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by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:27 pm
I'm sure this has been answered already, but do we know who's composing Kai Buu yet?