The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:03 am

We have no idea when Kai Buu is leaving Asia, so there will be a wait, yes.
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Post by Cold Skin » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:58 pm

Finally, the Blu-ray pack for the international version will be released soon in France, it's about time!
Kazé twitted the news about the upcoming release on May 20th and the box says it contains episodes 99 to 133 on four discs.
The Final Chapters is not another series, it's in perfect continuity with the previous Kai episodes, therefore the numbers officially don't restart and keep going from 99 on, and the pack is rightfully called "Box 3" ("Box 1" being mostly Freezer and "Box 2" being mostly Cell).

Expect the American releases in due time to follow the exact same presentation than their previous Kai releases as well, and keep on with the numbers of boxes and episodes as if Kai had never stopped, which is logical.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:38 pm

Cold Skin wrote:Finally, the Blu-ray pack for the international version will be released soon in France, it's about time!
Kazé twitted the news about the upcoming release on May 20th and the box says it contains episodes 99 to 133.
The Final Chapters is not another series, it's in perfect continuity with the previous Kai episodes, therefore the numbers officially don't restart and keep going from 99 on, and the pack is rightfully called "Box 3" ("Box 1" being mostly Freezer and "Box 2" being mostly Cell).

Expect the American releases in due time to follow the exact same presentation than their previous Kai releases as well, and keep on with the numbers of boxes and episodes as if Kai had never stopped, which is logical.

https://twitter.com/lafterblog/status/5 ... 9829283843
Awesome, liking the boxart!. Good for France they're pushing ahead with the release, FUNi I'm sure will announce it very soon.
Am pleased they are continuing the episode count from 99, starting again from 1 would have been odd.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by sintzu » Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:30 pm

They'll get the entire arc in 2 sets within this year while we'll have to wait for at least a year to get it in 6 parts.
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Post by ShaneisMC » Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:57 pm

That makes me really happy to hear. I hope the parts also start with #9 with that being the case.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:41 pm

Cold Skin wrote:Finally, the Blu-ray pack for the international version will be released soon in France, it's about time!
Kazé twitted the news about the upcoming release on May 20th and the box says it contains episodes 99 to 133 on four discs.
The Final Chapters is not another series, it's in perfect continuity with the previous Kai episodes, therefore the numbers officially don't restart and keep going from 99 on, and the pack is rightfully called "Box 3" ("Box 1" being mostly Freezer and "Box 2" being mostly Cell).

Expect the American releases in due time to follow the exact same presentation than their previous Kai releases as well, and keep on with the numbers of boxes and episodes as if Kai had never stopped, which is logical.

https://twitter.com/lafterblog/status/5 ... 9829283843
I don't suppose these have English subs (yeah right)? :problem: FUNi, you are seriously dropping the ball on this one.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:42 pm

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Cold Skin wrote:Finally, the Blu-ray pack for the international version will be released soon in France, it's about time!
Kazé twitted the news about the upcoming release on May 20th and the box says it contains episodes 99 to 133 on four discs.
The Final Chapters is not another series, it's in perfect continuity with the previous Kai episodes, therefore the numbers officially don't restart and keep going from 99 on, and the pack is rightfully called "Box 3" ("Box 1" being mostly Freezer and "Box 2" being mostly Cell).

Expect the American releases in due time to follow the exact same presentation than their previous Kai releases as well, and keep on with the numbers of boxes and episodes as if Kai had never stopped, which is logical.

https://twitter.com/lafterblog/status/5 ... 9829283843
I don't suppose these have English subs (yeah right)? :problem: FUNi, you are seriously dropping the ball on this one.
I know it isn't their release model, but it's a shame they won't do it over three parts of 23 each - this would be good enough to count as parts, and seasons. But either way, they are really dropping the ball on this one.
Considering Sabat, Schemmel & Hebert were the first to even talk about a localisation, they could end up being among the last countries to release it. FUNi were very quick to announce the 1st iteration of Kai, so it seems odd to have left this one so long.

I think it's safe to assume that the release of Resurrection F this summer has played it's part in that FUNi don't want to announce everything at once. I wouldn't be surprised to see them announce it at Anime Expo which takes place in LA July 2nd - 5th.
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Post by ShinGaijin » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:48 pm

Freeza Soldier #156 wrote:I don't suppose these have English subs (yeah right)? :problem: FUNi, you are seriously dropping the ball on this one.
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Just because of their shitty Z Seasons Sets.It's crazy.We're not even sure to see it happen in 2015.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:56 pm

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Freeza Soldier #156 wrote:I don't suppose these have English subs (yeah right)? :problem: FUNi, you are seriously dropping the ball on this one.
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Just because of their shitty Z Seasons Sets.It's crazy.We're not even sure to see it happen in 2015.
Lol! love the picture ShinGaijin. Unfortunately, these Blu Rays are the reason why they are probably holding it back. But I'm sure they will announce it at Anime Expo, as "F" may be on US cinemas at that time (June seems to be the rumored month) so it makes sense for them to move forward with the long awaited Kai announcement.

Judging by how great (my opinion) their dub for Kai 1.0 was, the Buu Saga should be very entertaining.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by Cold Skin » Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:50 am

Maybe the US has a good reason to keep you waiting.
For example, maybe they don't agree with the Engrish openings/endings and they were waiting for the Japanese opening and the five Japanese endings to be used instead, creating their own English lyrics if necessary.

Maybe they even want the music replacements of the Japanese version (for the recap and the next episode preview in each episode), and the heavily cut first episodes.

It's possible that the final Japanese episodes will use BGMs from the new movie too (which were not ready at the time of the international version, and could replace tracks like Let It Burn in the Japanese mix), and Funimation might want to wait for that so that they basically have the most updated version.
Freeza Soldier #156 wrote: I don't suppose these have English subs (yeah right)? :problem: FUNi, you are seriously dropping the ball on this one.
The answer is going to be very unsurprising, but it doesn't hurt confirming it: nope, in anime DVDs and Blu-ray discs, you don't even get to select the audio and the subtitles independantly: in the "Language" option, you only have two choices - "French version" or "Original Japanese version subtitled in French".

This is unlike pretty much all DVDs and Blu-rays that are not anime, where they will let you select audio and subtitles (or lack of subtitles) independantly, with subtitles usually covering multiple languages aside of the French one and the original one (Spanish, German, etc...).

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:15 pm

I really don't think Funi has any say in which version they get. It'll be the same version that France already has, with the songs remaining as is. I would honestly prefer to have the version that's 7 episodes longer. Means more new English dub, and it's such a minute difference anyway.
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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:32 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:I would honestly prefer to have the version that's 7 episodes longer. Means more new English dub, and it's such a minute difference anyway.
I agree to be honest, the opening 7 episodes of the Japanese version were awfully edited, and the Saiyaman Arc was unwatchable.
You watch that, then look at the way they originally left it for "The Final Chapters", and you can see why they did - the Saiyaman is too different to even attempt to cut.
At least the "Date" scenario was removed, and that's all that was needed.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:41 pm

My guess is, since the songs are already in English (even if it's Engrish), FUNimation won't dub them. However, I'm interested to see if other countries, such as the Latin American ones, will dub them into their languages. I could see that happening.
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Post by ShinGaijin » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:45 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:I really don't think Funi has any say in which version they get.
You're probably right.That said, I'd like to see FUNi pick up the Japanese cut, it's the better of two evils.I don't know if you've watched the international version's first 13 episodes, but it's even worse than the Japanese one.Besides Goku's comeback on Earth, music placements are horrible, it's much better in the Fuji TV's version.During the fight between Trunks & Goten, they choosed to put "Disco Ball Z" 3 times.3 times, in a single episode !

Don't get me wrong : The Japanese version is FAR from perfection of course, but the "original" one seems much sloppy & unprofessional in comparison.

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Post by thaman91 » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:53 pm

On the one hand, it's nice that with the international version, we'll be getting a longer English dub. Filler or not, more accurate English dialogue and better performances will be a good thing.

But on the other hand, I really dislike "Fight it Out" and really enjoy "Kuu Zen Zetsu Go". Why does Japan get to have the cool opening song and we don't?
Anybody else feel the same way?

On an unrelated note, did the Japanese voice cast also record dialogue for the international version? If so, was the Fuji TV dialogue just an edited down version of that?

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Post by sintzu » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:11 pm

thaman91 wrote:Did the Japanese voice cast also record dialogue for the international version? If so, was the Fuji TV dialogue just an edited down version of that?
Yes to both questions.
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Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:34 pm

ShinGaijin wrote:
Valerius Dover wrote:I really don't think Funi has any say in which version they get.
You're probably right.That said, I'd like to see FUNi pick up the Japanese cut, it's the better of two evils.I don't know if you've watched the international version's first 13 episodes, but it's even worse than the Japanese one.Besides Goku's comeback on Earth, music placements are horrible, it's much better in the Fuji TV's version.During the fight between Trunks & Goten, they choosed to put "Disco Ball Z" 3 times.3 times, in a single episode !

Don't get me wrong : The Japanese version is FAR from perfection of course, but the "original" one seems much sloppy & unprofessional in comparison.
I haven't watched any Kai or anything in Japanese at all yet, actually. I'm going by the descriptions of others here.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:01 pm

Does anybody have a link to this infamous "Disco" track that I keep hearing about? Not to download of course (it doesn't sound like a track I'd want anyway), just a YouTube clip of an instance where it was used would be nice. I have to admit, I'm curious.
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TheBlackPaladin wrote:Does anybody have a link to this infamous "Disco" track that I keep hearing about? Not to download of course (it doesn't sound like a track I'd want anyway), just a YouTube clip of an instance where it was used would be nice. I have to admit, I'm curious.
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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:35 pm

ShinGaijin wrote:
Valerius Dover wrote:I really don't think Funi has any say in which version they get.
You're probably right.That said, I'd like to see FUNi pick up the Japanese cut, it's the better of two evils.I don't know if you've watched the international version's first 13 episodes, but it's even worse than the Japanese one.Besides Goku's comeback on Earth, music placements are horrible, it's much better in the Fuji TV's version.During the fight between Trunks & Goten, they choosed to put "Disco Ball Z" 3 times.3 times, in a single episode !

Don't get me wrong : The Japanese version is FAR from perfection of course, but the "original" one seems much sloppy & unprofessional in comparison.
I see what you mean, but at least the editing is better for those episodes in the International version. I know the placement isn't the best, but wall-to-wall music in the opening few Japanese episodes, along with the poor editing, just made them very hard to watch.

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