Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Doctor.]

Is DBM a non-profit project? I'm not sure it is. People will always complain if someone's earning money for something they think can do better.

[Duo]

Is DBM a non-profit project? I'm not sure it is. People will always complain if someone's earning money for something they think can do better.

I have no problem with criticism at all, given that it's thoughtful and presented respectfully.

I'm pretty sure reading DBM has never cost anybody a dime.

[rereboy]

No, I understand it perfectly.

Your argument is that is perfectly natural for a fan-manga to have a topic with more bashing than praise because it's very popular.

And, since that's natural, people should not point out the bashing and if people point it out, there will be more comments criticizing the one pointing it out that the one bashing.

I just not really agree with any of that.

I never mention a topic. I said on my post that you'll see in other websites that DBM gets more praise. I also never said you not point out bashing. You completely misinterpreted my post. I said the more popular you are. The more bashing and or praising you'll get. It shouldn't be surprising. I even provided 3 examples.

More people complain about DBZ than a 6 episode series called Murder Princess (a good series) or even a 12 episode series. It's called being popular therefore more judgments. And trust and believe a lot of fanfiction gets hate too. Go to other website or something.

Some websites AF is more popular than DBMV. Others have New Age as the top fanfiction

AMV editors. Blingman121v3 gets less hate than a million view basic AMV because the million view amvs is popular and many see how bad it is. While blingman121v3 has 430 sub's.

It's not that hard to understand. DBm gets LOTS of praise. Similar to how Kanzenshuu might get bashed more than a random dbz forum.

As I said. You 100% missed the point of my post.

Fine, I'll rectify it to include all the nuances that you believe change the meaning of what you said:

Your argument is that is perfectly natural for a fan-manga to receive lots of bashing and praise because it's very popular.

And, since that's natural, if there's a particular topic where there's clearly more bashing than praise, people should not point out the bashing and if people point it out, there will be more comments criticizing the one pointing it out that the one bashing.

Is DBM a non-profit project? I'm not sure it is. People will always complain if someone's earning money for something they think can do better.

It pretty much is. The only money they make is from visits on the website and some merchandise when they go to conventions. They don't even sell anything directly on the site, meaning that they are as non-profit and Dragon Ball Abridged is or perhaps less. DB New Age is actually sold on amazon to anyone at any time, for example, so New age is less non-profit than DBM if you actually want to go down that road.

[fexus]

And it's folks bashing something that is completely free and not consequential in relationship to the main franchise. I know that sort of thing will always happen, but that doesn't make those whom cast childish hate anything more than ungrateful little shits.

Don't like it? Don't read it.

If you've stuck with a story with so long it's because you at some point thought it was good. Telling those people that they're "ungrateful little shits" seems hypocritical to me. It's the same as saying "Oh, you've read it? Thank you, now fuck off!".

I have no problem with criticism at all, given that it's thoughtful and presented respectfully. There is no cost to read DBM, and it's a labor of love from other fans. There is nothing wrong with calling out senselessly negative attitudes in that context. If anything, we should all be doing it more.

Senselessly praising isn't good either. Some people take DBM much too seriously even more so than the original series.

[Duo]

Senselessly praising isn't good either. Some people take DBM much too seriously even more so than the original series.

I don't see how praise is a particularly bad thing. I, for one, come to this thread just to discuss the story. I avoid the comments on the actual DBM site because it's riddled with crap. I'd like this environment to maintain some level of dignity.

As for people who take it "too seriously", if they are acting like jerks as well, call them out. It's just a free fan manga. Nobody should feel attacked over it under any circumstance.

[rereboy]

Senselessly praising isn't good either. Some people take DBM much too seriously even more so than the original series.

And if there was an excess of senseless praising in this topic regarding something that I didn't feel was good I would also probably point it out. However, praising is inherently a positive thing, so it's never as bad in excess as is bashing.

[TheGmGoken]

Spoiler:

No, I understand it perfectly.

Your argument is that is perfectly natural for a fan-manga to have a topic with more bashing than praise because it's very popular.

And, since that's natural, people should not point out the bashing and if people point it out, there will be more comments criticizing the one pointing it out that the one bashing.

I just not really agree with any of that.

I never mention a topic. I said on my post that you'll see in other websites that DBM gets more praise. I also never said you not point out bashing. You completely misinterpreted my post. I said the more popular you are. The more bashing and or praising you'll get. It shouldn't be surprising. I even provided 3 examples.

More people complain about DBZ than a 6 episode series called Murder Princess (a good series) or even a 12 episode series. It's called being popular therefore more judgments. And trust and believe a lot of fanfiction gets hate too. Go to other website or something.

Some websites AF is more popular than DBMV. Others have New Age as the top fanfiction

AMV editors. Blingman121v3 gets less hate than a million view basic AMV because the million view amvs is popular and many see how bad it is. While blingman121v3 has 430 sub's.

It's not that hard to understand. DBm gets LOTS of praise. Similar to how Kanzenshuu might get bashed more than a random dbz forum.

As I said. You 100% missed the point of my post.

Fine, I'll rectify it to include all the nuances that you believe change the meaning of what you said:

Your argument is that is perfectly natural for a fan-manga to receive lots of bashing and praise because it's very popular.

And, since that's natural, if there's a particular topic where there's clearly more bashing than praise, people should not point out the bashing and if people point it out, there will be more comments criticizing the one pointing it out that the one bashing.

Is DBM a non-profit project? I'm not sure it is. People will always complain if someone's earning money for something they think can do better.

It pretty much is. The only money they make is from visits on the website and some merchandise when they go to conventions. They don't even sell anything directly on the site, meaning that they are as non-profit and Dragon Ball Abridged is or perhaps less. DB New Age is actually sold on amazon to anyone at any time, for example, so New age is less non-profit than DBM if you actually want to go down that road.

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Yes it's natural for a POPULAR series to get lots of praise or hate. It's why it's popular. Look at Broly compared Dr.Urio/Wheelo. Broly gets more hate than Urio and more praise. I never mentioned a topic once again. Don't know why that keep coming up. I also NEVER said you shouldn't point out bashing. Once again you're missing the point.

Popularity = more judgment. That's all I'm sayin. You're blowing out of proportion of my statements. Thus misunderstanding the post.

[rereboy]

In spoiler cause of long quote.

Yes it's natural for a POPULAR series to get lots of praise or hate. It's why it's popular. Look at Broly compared Dr.Urio/Wheelo. Broly gets more hate than Urio and more praise. I never mentioned a topic once again. Don't know why that keep coming up. I also NEVER said you shouldn't point out bashing. Once again you're missing the point.

Popularity = more judgment. That's all I'm sayin. You're blowing out of proportion of my statements. Thus misunderstanding the post.

Point 1 - Bashing should never be considered natural and perfectly acceptable. Criticism, yes, bashing no.

Point 2 - If its a natural occurrence, there should be at least as much praise as bashing, which is not happening in this topic, thus the pointing out of the bashing.

Point 3 - Being a natural occurrence or not has no bearing on if people should point out the bashing on a topic where bashing is more frequent.

Point 4 - Despite all this, you still felt the need, not to criticize the bashing, but to say that it's all perfectly natural and that "it's not that hard to understand" and so on, which is pretty much irrelevant if you are not criticizing who points out the bashing.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Look I apologize for what I posted earlier. I'm not intentionally bashing DBM, especially since it's something I keep up to date with. It's just there are some things about it that I really dislike such as Universe 16 getting all the attention, SSJ3 getting nerfed, Broli's whole "stuck in LSSJ while frozen," etc. Sometimes I feel that the manga is just Salagir doing what he wants to do for the reason of fanboyism, especially since he uses his own theories as opposed to actual source material.

[rereboy]

especially since he uses his own theories as opposed to actual source material.

Such as?

The ones I can think of right now is regarding Broly and Cold's forms. Which I agree with you, even though regarding Broly the purpose of such a move is understandable for the plot.

Other stuff are more stuff that aren't fully explained in the manga, so the wiggle room that exists allows the added interpretation without actually contradicting it.

[fexus]

Look I apologize for what I posted earlier. I'm not intentionally bashing DBM, especially since it's something I keep up to date with. It's just there are some things about it that I really dislike such as Universe 16 getting all the attention, SSJ3 getting nerfed, Broli's whole "stuck in LSSJ while frozen," etc. Sometimes I feel that the manga is just Salagir doing what he wants to do for the reason of fanboyism, especially since he uses his own theories as opposed to actual source material.

Fanmanga like this will always be like that. People will support what they like and in this the universe that has the strongest warrior which is Vegito is the one. Fanmanga also need to attract attention, that's why they add Brolly so that the "POWER IS MAXIMUM" fans have a reason to read this. To be fair even in the new movies SSJ3 are quickly becoming irrelevant.

[coola]

On Wednesday, there will be minicomic, before we return to main story:) Uub shouldn't have too much trouble with Fat Buu, especially with Kaio-Ken

[Vegitofaxx]

On Wednesday, there will be minicomic, before we return to main story:) Uub shouldn't have too much trouble with Fat Buu, especially with Kaio-Ken

Aaaaand it's time to boot up Photoshop....

[BlazingBarrrager]

To be fair even in the new movies SSJ3 are quickly becoming irrelevant.

Except DBM ignores the new movies, so SSJ3 is still the strongest canon Super Saiyan form yet Salagir nerfs the form even more by making it an impractical transformation. It's also used in an asspull with U13 Vegeta vs. Raichi's match where the former somehow manages to transform into the state by simply thinking about the other users despite being a total mess. Granted it didn't win him the match, but it was still an asspull.

Another asspull/favoritism moment was when U16 Bra kills U6 Zangya in a fit of rage DESPITE THE FACT THAT VEGETTO TOLD HER HE WOULD DROP HER FROM THE TOURNEY IF SHE DID SO and being told that she "passed." Not only was this a BS move, but Salagir went further by having Goku/Vegeta wondering if she is stronger than them. Seriously the guy sometimes do things simply for favoritism instead of actual writing.

[TheGmGoken]

In spoiler cause of long quote.

Yes it's natural for a POPULAR series to get lots of praise or hate. It's why it's popular. Look at Broly compared Dr.Urio/Wheelo. Broly gets more hate than Urio and more praise. I never mentioned a topic once again. Don't know why that keep coming up. I also NEVER said you shouldn't point out bashing. Once again you're missing the point.

Popularity = more judgment. That's all I'm sayin. You're blowing out of proportion of my statements. Thus misunderstanding the post.

Point 1 - Bashing should never be considered natural and perfectly acceptable. Criticism, yes, bashing no.

Point 2 - If its a natural occurrence, there should be at least as much praise as bashing, which is not happening in this topic, thus the pointing out of the bashing.

Point 3 - Being a natural occurrence or not has no bearing on if people should point out the bashing on a topic where bashing is more frequent.

Point 4 - Despite all this, you still felt the need, not to criticize the bashing, but to say that it's all perfectly natural and that "it's not that hard to understand" and so on, which is pretty much irrelevant if you are not criticizing who points out the bashing.

In spoiler cause of long quote.

Yes it's natural for a POPULAR series to get lots of praise or hate. It's why it's popular. Look at Broly compared Dr.Urio/Wheelo. Broly gets more hate than Urio and more praise. I never mentioned a topic once again. Don't know why that keep coming up. I also NEVER said you shouldn't point out bashing. Once again you're missing the point.

Popularity = more judgment. That's all I'm sayin. You're blowing out of proportion of my statements. Thus misunderstanding the post.

Point 1 - Bashing should never be considered natural and perfectly acceptable. Criticism, yes, bashing no.

Point 2 - If its a natural occurrence, there should be at least as much praise as bashing, which is not happening in this topic, thus the pointing out of the bashing.

Point 3 - Being a natural occurrence or not has not bearing on if people should point out the bashing on a topic where bashing is more frequent.

Point 4 - Despite all this, you still felt the need not to criticize the bashing but to say that it's all perfectly natural and that "it's not that hard to understand" and so on, which is pretty much irrelevant if you are not criticizing who points out the bashing.

Point 1 - It's natural whatever you like it or not. Popularity means more bashing and praise. Look at Naruto, One Piece, and DB. Loads of bashing and praise for all 3. Now let's look at Murder Princess, Black Bullet, and Kaze No Stigma. Exactly.

Point 2 - I AM NOT MENTIONING ANY TOPIC AT ALL. I said overall. Notice o brought other websites. Not 1 topic. But websites, YouTube, and forum. You're really misunderstanding everything I'm saying.

Point 3 - I never ever said you should not point out bashing. Stop putting words in my mouth. I told you this 3 times now.

Point 4 - What? You're misunderstanding everything I've said this entire time. Despite what? Telling you how a popular series get judged? Telling you the truth? It's not hard too understand. Compare DBZ to Kaze No Stigma. What the hell is irrelevant? Telling you why DBMV gets praise and hate? Discussing DBMV on a DBMV topic? BTW now I'm mention a topic. Not the other 3 times where you assumed I did. I ain't crictizing anyone's opinion or how they're expressing it. I'm telling it how it is. DbM will receive more bashing on sites it's popular on. It'll receive less bashing on sites thats not popular. It is how it is.

[Vegitofaxx]

In spoiler cause of long quote.

Yes it's natural for a POPULAR series to get lots of praise or hate. It's why it's popular. Look at Broly compared Dr.Urio/Wheelo. Broly gets more hate than Urio and more praise. I never mentioned a topic once again. Don't know why that keep coming up. I also NEVER said you shouldn't point out bashing. Once again you're missing the point.

Popularity = more judgment. That's all I'm sayin. You're blowing out of proportion of my statements. Thus misunderstanding the post.

Point 1 - Bashing should never be considered natural and perfectly acceptable. Criticism, yes, bashing no.

Point 2 - If its a natural occurrence, there should be at least as much praise as bashing, which is not happening in this topic, thus the pointing out of the bashing.

Point 3 - Being a natural occurrence or not has no bearing on if people should point out the bashing on a topic where bashing is more frequent.

Point 4 - Despite all this, you still felt the need, not to criticize the bashing, but to say that it's all perfectly natural and that "it's not that hard to understand" and so on, which is pretty much irrelevant if you are not criticizing who points out the bashing.

In spoiler cause of long quote.

Yes it's natural for a POPULAR series to get lots of praise or hate. It's why it's popular. Look at Broly compared Dr.Urio/Wheelo. Broly gets more hate than Urio and more praise. I never mentioned a topic once again. Don't know why that keep coming up. I also NEVER said you shouldn't point out bashing. Once again you're missing the point.

Popularity = more judgment. That's all I'm sayin. You're blowing out of proportion of my statements. Thus misunderstanding the post.

Point 1 - Bashing should never be considered natural and perfectly acceptable. Criticism, yes, bashing no.

Point 2 - If its a natural occurrence, there should be at least as much praise as bashing, which is not happening in this topic, thus the pointing out of the bashing.

Point 3 - Being a natural occurrence or not has not bearing on if people should point out the bashing on a topic where bashing is more frequent.

Point 4 - Despite all this, you still felt the need not to criticize the bashing but to say that it's all perfectly natural and that "it's not that hard to understand" and so on, which is pretty much irrelevant if you are not criticizing who points out the bashing.

Point 1 - It's natural whatever you like it or not. Popularity means more bashing and praise. Look at Naruto, One Piece, and DB. Loads of bashing and praise for all 3. Now let's look at Murder Princess, Black Bullet, and Kaze No Stigma. Exactly.

Point 2 - I AM NOT MENTIONING ANY TOPIC AT ALL. I said overall. Notice o brought other websites. Not 1 topic. But websites, YouTube, and forum. You're really misunderstanding everything I'm saying.

Point 3 - I never ever said you should not point out bashing. Stop putting words in my mouth. I told you this 3 times now.

Point 4 - What? You're misunderstanding everything I've said this entire time. Despite what? Telling you how a popular series get judged? Telling you the truth? It's not hard too understand. Compare DBZ to Kaze No Stigma. What the hell is irrelevant? Telling you why DBMV gets praise and hate? Discussing DBMV on a DBMV topic? BTW now I'm mention a topic. Not the other 3 times where you assumed I did. I ain't crictizing anyone's opinion or how they're expressing it. I'm telling it how it is. DbM will receive more bashing on sites it's popular on. It'll receive less bashing on sites thats not popular. It is how it is.

And close the book.

[goku the krump dancer]

Boo was probably expecting to grow some boobs.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Boo was probably expecting to grow some boobs.

LOL That or go through a Rule 63 moment.

[Vegitofaxx]

Boo was probably expecting to grow some boobs.

I feel the presence of Scarz...

[rereboy]

To be fair even in the new movies SSJ3 are quickly becoming irrelevant.

Except DBM ignores the new movies, so SSJ3 is still the strongest canon Super Saiyan form yet Salagir nerfs the form even more by making it an impractical transformation. It's also used in an asspull with U13 Vegeta vs. Raichi's match where the former somehow manages to transform into the state by simply thinking about the other users despite being a total mess. Granted it didn't win him the match, but it was still an asspull.

Another asspull/favoritism moment was when U16 Bra kills U6 Zangya in a fit of rage DESPITE THE FACT THAT VEGETTO TOLD HER HE WOULD DROP HER FROM THE TOURNEY IF SHE DID SO and being told that she "passed." Not only was this a BS move, but Salagir went further by having Goku/Vegeta wondering if she is stronger than them. Seriously the guy sometimes do things simply for favoritism instead of actual writing.

It's perfectly fine to not like the choices that DBM makes, but none of that actually contradicts the manga, imo.

SSJ3's treatment in DBM doesn't contradict the manga at all. The last appearance of it in the manga makes its limitations in the living world very clear. Salagir could either make the fighters surpass those limitations or he could expand on those limitations and make the fighters interested in something more effective, which is what has been teased about Vegeta. Salagir chose this last option. No real contradiction there, just the mentioned wiggle room to expand a bit on it.

I agree that if their objective was to have Bra be in the tournament, she should not have killed Zangya. I think that they should have let her attack like she did, but have Zangya survive the attack. She would be hurt, but alive. It would make much more sense. However, none of this really contradicts the manga because this Bra doesn't exist in the manga.

As for Bra being that powerful, I also don't see how that contradicts the manga. The manga goes out of its way to show us just how powerful Vegetto is. Goku and Vegeta were nothing compared to him. It's perfectly reasonable to expect the offspring of such a character, who besides being that powerful is also magical in nature, to have an incredible potential. Bra being at least comparable to Goku and Vegeta seems something to expect. In fact, with the latest movie out and the whole justification of Freeza becoming that strong because he is a prodigy, Bra being this powerful only becomes even more logical.

Point 1 - It's natural whatever you like it or not. Popularity means more bashing and praise. Look at Naruto, One Piece, and DB. Loads of bashing and praise for all 3. Now let's look at Murder Princess, Black Bullet, and Kaze No Stigma. Exactly.

Point 2 - I AM NOT MENTIONING ANY TOPIC AT ALL. I said overall. Notice o brought other websites. Not 1 topic. But websites, YouTube, and forum. You're really misunderstanding everything I'm saying.

Point 3 - I never ever said you should not point out bashing. Stop putting words in my mouth. I told you this 3 times now.

Point 4 - What? You're misunderstanding everything I've said this entire time. Despite what? Telling you how a popular series get judged? Telling you the truth? It's not hard too understand. Compare DBZ to Kaze No Stigma. What the hell is irrelevant? Telling you why DBMV gets praise and hate? Discussing DBMV on a DBMV topic? BTW now I'm mention a topic. Not the other 3 times where you assumed I did. I ain't crictizing anyone's opinion or how they're expressing it. I'm telling it how it is. DbM will receive more bashing on sites it's popular on. It'll receive less bashing on sites thats not popular. It is how it is.

If you say so.