Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat May 02, 2015 6:11 pm

Good lord where do I even begin with the script. I know, by not even bothering just to save myself the time. Instead I'll get out as a shit storm is gonna happen for sure.

Oh and Freeza and Bulma NEVER MET! Hence Bulma came around the Mecha Freeza arc to see Freeza for the first time. FNF is the first time they've actually met. Guess Freeza and Bulma just fantasied about seeing each other.
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Post by Cetra » Sat May 02, 2015 6:13 pm

There are both so many genius and so many dumb things in it. Dumb not in a good way, genius in a good way.

I also noticed how Freeza "remembered" Bulma. Then again you can explain that away by Sorbet telling Freeza about Bulma, which is even mentioned in the summary. Therefore, he can remember her. Of course not if he did not see a picture of her or did not get an actual explanation. Then again if we go by Anime filler explanation, he might have seen her in one of those "tv scenes" whenever he was allowed to watch stuff from the living world.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat May 02, 2015 6:15 pm

Cetra wrote:I also noticed how Freeza "remembered" Bulma. Then again you can explain that away by Sorbet telling Freeza about Bulma, which is even mentioned in the summary. Therefore, he can remember her.
Freeza said they met on Namek. As in they've seen each other in person on planet namek. They've never met before as Freeza proclaims, hence Bulma in the next ac says she came to get a good look at Freeza since she never saw him before. He somehow has a hard time remember Sorbet who he has met, but remembers someone he's never seen in his life. All we can chalk that up to is Freeza is wrong.
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Post by sintzu » Sat May 02, 2015 6:20 pm

Thanks for the summary it was a great read and hopefully there'll be less people saying this movie was a waste of time after reading it.

It was great that Freeza had a contingency plan for in case he lost cause it shows that he was open to the possibility of losing which if I'm not mistaken is a first for a DB villain.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat May 02, 2015 6:29 pm

Freeza had a contingency plan for in case he lost cause it shows that he was open to the possibility of losing which if I'm not mistaken is a first for a DB villain.
Super Boo anytime he starts to lose has a back up plan.

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Post by SonsOfUlron21 » Sat May 02, 2015 6:30 pm

Did Bulma and vegeta got married all those years man I like to see that wedding.

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Post by buutenks » Sat May 02, 2015 6:31 pm

Hah,i remember in the first cooler movie when goku revived a dead bird lol ^^ Or his speech vs freeza in the anime,i am light of all hope and stuff like that hehe.I always disliked that,since that is not the manga goku or how toriyama showed goku to be.

I enjoyed goku's personality in the manga so much more,there he was just like any other guy,just he is very powerful and enjoys fighting.

Also read the full summary,looked good.Also kinda amusing how jaco considers beersu to be a myth haha

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Post by sintzu » Sat May 02, 2015 6:35 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Super Boo anytime he starts to lose has a back up plan.
Buu made up the absorbing plan while fighting Gohan unlike Freeza who had everything figured out before going to earth.
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Post by buutenks » Sat May 02, 2015 6:40 pm

sintzu wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Super Boo anytime he starts to lose has a back up plan.
Buu made up the absorbing plan while fighting Gohan unlike Freeza who had everything figured out before going to earth.
I take it the sorbet thing was never planned,sorbet just had an opportunity and he took it.

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Post by Doctor. » Sat May 02, 2015 6:51 pm

Why can't Goku sense Beerus' and Whis' ki?

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat May 02, 2015 7:01 pm

I guess Beerus and Whis mask their ki, would make sense being team God of Destruction and all.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat May 02, 2015 7:02 pm

sintzu wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Super Boo anytime he starts to lose has a back up plan.
Buu made up the absorbing plan while fighting Gohan unlike Freeza who had everything figured out before going to earth.
Boo always ready to absorb :) .

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat May 02, 2015 7:06 pm

Shoutout to the amazing Kanzenshuu team for the summary. Awesome work, as usual. :clap:

Seems like the character interactions are gonna make this movie. Still hyped for RF. :)

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Post by Birusu16 » Sat May 02, 2015 7:16 pm

Doctor. wrote:Why can't Goku sense Beerus' and Whis' ki?
Because he's essentially not a god anymore. He simply has power that rivals the gods.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat May 02, 2015 7:37 pm

So, after reading the summary:
  • Tagoma is the top-lieutenant, meaning that he is stronger than Shisami, and both of them are on Zarbon's & Dodoria's level (proven by 1st Form Freeza easily killing Tagoma), yet 4 months later, Piccolo has an even battle with Shisami, and Gohan has to become a Super Saiyan to end this quickly. I guess they are either too tired, or Shisami trained as well, and got massive gains in such a short time because he is a mutant as well.
  • Why doesn't Sorbet have any data on Goten & Trunks? And if the whole battle was kept a secret from them, how come they didn't sense the whole battle, or the evil ki from Freeza & his soldiers?
  • Freeza remembers Bulma? Plot-hole...
  • Why can't Goku sense Beerus' & Whis' ki? He can sense Kami's, Kaio's, and Kaioshin's ki to use Shunkan Ido through them, but not through Beerus & Whis? Even ignoring this, Goku has absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God and made it his own, and we saw in BoG that he can also transform into a Super Saiyan God on his own... Toriyama fucked up the whole thing with the gods. :crazy:
  • Turns out Gohan really did lost Ultimate & SS2. Bulma told them to power-up to their max in order to call Goku, and Gohan merely turns into a Super Saiyan.
By the way, what Age does FnF take place again?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Dyno » Sat May 02, 2015 7:41 pm

Kakarot can't sense Bills' Ki even after have had absorbed Super Saiyan God powers...
Tights was alluded, not the way I would like, but... It is something.

Plot-wise... I'm way more hyped for Dragon Ball S, hope it makes Movie 15 looking horrible. But I also hope the fight scenes and dialogues make for it.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat May 02, 2015 7:42 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:By the way, what Age does FnF take place again?
Around AGE 779 according to Volume F. So roughly a year after Battle of Gods.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat May 02, 2015 7:43 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:By the way, what Age does FnF take place again?
Around AGE 779 according to Volume F. So roughly a year after Battle of Gods.
Thank god we don't have a plot-hole with Bulma meeting Goku 5 years before the 28th TB, and with Bra not being born yet.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat May 02, 2015 7:48 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, after reading the summary:
Why doesn't Sorbet have any data on Goten & Trunks? And if the whole battle was kept a secret from them, how come they didn't sense the whole battle, or the evil ki from Freeza & his soldiers?
Apparently from what I read Gohan actually told Goten and Trunks not to show up. So that fixes an issue I had.
Freeza remembers Bulma? Plot-hole...
Bulma has also never seen Freeza either. They never met at all. Apparently Sorbet who Freeza met is less memorable, than a woman he's never seen before. Perhaps they went of anime logic...but I don't know if they met in the anime. Does Ghost Freeza in the Hatchiyack special remake count? Probably not.
Turns out Gohan really did lost Ultimate & SS2. Bulma told them to power-up to their max in order to call Goku, and Gohan merely turns into a Super Saiyan.
Well I don't remember from what I read if they did power up...but if so yeah Gohan slacked of sooooo bad somehow that he lost two forms in the span of 2 years. From like 12 years he was fine ala Battle of Gods...but now he suddenly can't. Again this one I need a little more clarification on.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat May 02, 2015 7:50 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Thank god we don't have a plot-hole with Bulma meeting Goku 5 years before the 28th TB, and with Bra not being born yet.
Just hope Super doesn't take place before EOZ and all plotholes appear at once.
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