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Personally I like the design and visual effect with the flaming ki aura of SSG compared to the generic wind like aura and normal appearance associated with Saiyan beyond god.
Like i said in a previous thread. It would be good if they had kept this design and then have its powered up form be SSGSS. Linking the pattern of powering up to flame intensity. In that case I would probably have had SSGSS be purple/White flame aura, SSGSS 2 be blue flame and SSGSS3 be blue with SSG3 appearance.
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I was legit sad when I saw they dropped ssjg for blueper saiyan. I actually left the F thread for like two days after it was confirmed there was no ssjg Gokû in the movie. I loved this form on him. The lesson is for me not to get too attached to stuff, I guess.
So yes. Yes I wish it had been kept. Yes I still hope it shows up again because I'm optimistic enough to hold out hope for something like that. This is something I would actually throw money at.
Technically, SSJG was not replaced by its SSJ level, and can still be accessed by Goku (and Vegeta, who probably absorbed it like Goku did), because he still has it inside. It's when he releases it that he transforms, and I bet that he could revert.
I certainly would have loved it if SSJG remained. But SSJGSSJ looks real cool in it's own regard, so it's not a total loss. But I'm still bummed out that SSJG went the way of SSJ2 and became redundant and forgotten almost as soon as it debuted.
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Chuquita wrote:I was legit sad when I saw they dropped ssjg for blueper saiyan.
Yeah, I like how blueper saiyan (love that term, by the way) is activated and how the hair style more resembles SSJ than base form and I also didn't like SSJG's aura, but I would have preferred it if blueper was actually "redper" saiyan.
Truhan wrote:Technically, SSJG was not replaced by its SSJ level, and can still be accessed by Goku (and Vegeta, who probably absorbed it like Goku did), because he still has it inside. It's when he releases it that he transforms, and I bet that he could revert.
I doubt it. It's more he assimilated the knowledge of how to activate his own strength to work in the same leagues (or "world" as Beerus explained it) as SSJ God. From there, Vegeta did the same thing since he's repeatedly been shown to be at least as good as Goku when it comes to analyzing techniques. I really don't see Vegeta getting everybody to trigger SSJ God for him.
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Dayspring wrote:I doubt it. It's more he assimilated the knowledge of how to activate his own strength to work in the same leagues (or "world" as Beerus explained it) as SSJ God. From there, Vegeta did the same thing since he's repeatedly been shown to be at least as good as Goku when it comes to analyzing techniques. I really don't see Vegeta getting everybody to trigger SSJ God for him.
I like this idea, but an idea nonetheless. Akira Toriyama simply did not show it, or maybe everyone has now the potential to become a SSJG, because they were part of the circle, but need to train a whole lot.
I guess it would have been too "predictable" to just give the SSJ form the same features as the SSJG one (flaming aura and red hair), despite it looking cooler than that blue shit. -.-
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Yep, I would have preferred to see SSJG a couple more times. Toriyama says that after Goku internalizes the form's power, he'll no longer need it. I was hoping that said internalization was still a ways off.
Regarding the SSGSS, I don't think I'd mind it so much if it were what we were shown when Goku made his last push against Beers in BoG. Instead of just a "God-remnant SSJ", if we had been shown the blue-haired deal back then, it wouldn't feel so out of the blue (not supposed to be a pun). I mean, what exactly is the difference between "SSJ with the power of a god" and "SSJG with the power of a SSJ"? Maybe Super will provide additional explanation.
Actually, scratch that. Here's hoping Super revisits Future Trunks's timeline. What I'd like to see:
After waiting for a rival, Beers travels to King Kai (who isn't dead) and finds Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan dead and training in the afterlife. He soundly defeats all three and is disappointed that the closest he'll ever come to a rival is already dead. Prideful Vegeta lets slip that his son is alive, prompting Beers to seek Trunks out.
He finds Trunks and defeats him as well. About to destroy the Earth for his troubles, the Supreme Kai and Kibito (having never fused) teleport in and ask Beers to stay his hand. Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan are then allowed to visit the mortal realm for their One Day amongst the living. They use Porunga (either teleporting to New Namek the way Goku did in the main timeline or by hitching a ride with Kibito) to learn the SSJG ritual.
They come back, dejected because there aren't enough Saiyans to try. Then Bulma arrives from the newly constructed hospital with Trunks's wife and news that she's pregnant with twins.
Trunks goes SSJG, and makes almost as good a showing as Goku did in the main timeline.
Probably not going to happen like that, but I do hope we see Future Trunks again, and I wouldn't mind Trunks being a SSJG.
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I don't think Kaio-Ken reject Goku isn't any better than whatever the ridiculous new name is for Goku with spiky Bulma hair. SSJ4 is aesthetically superior. Not to mention it's more symbolic and less shonen cringey.
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Sayo-chan wrote:I don't think Kaio-Ken reject Goku isn't any better than whatever the ridiculous new name is for Goku with spiky Bulma hair. SSJ4 is aesthetically superior. Not to mention it's more symbolic and less shonen cringey.
But SSJ4 has that weird. Pants reappearing thing that makes no sense.
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OT, I think it should have been kept. All that hype and shit building up from BoG and then it suddenly gets dropped faster than a DotA 2 team after failing to qualify for TI. Also known as really fast.
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OT, I think it should have been kept. All that hype and shit building up from BoG and then it suddenly gets dropped faster than a DotA 2 team after failing to qualify for TI. Also known as really fast.
That Dota 2 ref...thank you! It's so true...EG FOR TI5 CHAMPS!
On topic! I think they should have kept it at least a little longer. While I wasn't a big fan of the form overall I saw the potential and wanted to see it grow on me. But it looks like that's a dead dream now.
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