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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:00 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:09 pm

Let's be honest. Gotenks overshadowed Oob in his own fightfight. And Gotenks wasn't even there. No wonder Oob is so modest.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:11 pm

PSSH yeah right, Vegeta was just barely under his control.. The most Vegetto is going to get is a slight headache.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:31 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:PSSH yeah right, Vegeta was just barely under his control.. The most Vegetto is going to get is a slight headache.
If it wasn't for that one page where he teleported away when he lost and screamed he wanted to separate Gohan's head from his shoulders, I would be inclined to agree with you.

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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:33 pm

Majin Vegetto? This should be interesting.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by goku the krump dancer » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:54 pm

FoolsGil wrote:
goku the krump dancer wrote:PSSH yeah right, Vegeta was just barely under his control.. The most Vegetto is going to get is a slight headache.
If it wasn't for that one page where he teleported away when he lost and screamed he wanted to separate Gohan's head from his shoulders, I would be inclined to agree with you.
IDK Vegeta is the same guy who killed a bagillion people and also didn't mind temporarily abusing his son to help the bad guy…. though all of that was years prior to his decision to become a part time slave.

Vegetto at least had the decency to vent elsewhere instead of acting on his thoughts. though something of the sort will come to pass anyway.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbgtFO » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:32 pm

So we'll finally get that "Vegetto defeats Gohan" scenario, that Bardock envisioned.
..Or not, who knows, but it sounds interesting.

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Post by Jack Bz » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:37 pm

I don't think this is going to work. Vegetto doesn't have a majin symbol on his forehead in any of the visions.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:54 pm

"Majin" Vegetto? You mean the same Vegetto that regained his conscious and power even when he was turned into freakin candy? Yeah, mind control is gonna work wonders on Vegetto. :roll:

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dario03 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:06 pm

Maybe Babidi doesn't even get a chance to do it. Buu might stop him since messing with other competitors is against the rules.

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Post by Saiga » Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:29 pm

I am pretty sure even if the control fails, the evil still gets brought to the surface. So Majin Vegetto is still a very real danger even if Babidi can't control him.
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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:48 pm

Saiga wrote:I am pretty sure even if the control fails, the evil still gets brought to the surface. So Majin Vegetto is still a very real danger even if Babidi can't control him.
All I know is that this is going to bite Babidi in the ass soon. lol

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Post by Hades » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:28 am

Saiga wrote:I am pretty sure even if the control fails, the evil still gets brought to the surface. So Majin Vegetto is still a very real danger even if Babidi can't control him.
I still wonder if the Z-fighters ever made plans for one of their own turning against them, like the Xavier Protocols or Batman's Kryptonite.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:00 pm

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Saiga wrote:I am pretty sure even if the control fails, the evil still gets brought to the surface. So Majin Vegetto is still a very real danger even if Babidi can't control him.
I still wonder if the Z-fighters ever made plans for one of their own turning against them, like the Xavier Protocols or Batman's Kryptonite.
Think about who you're referring to.

Of course they didn't.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hades » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:28 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Hades wrote:
Saiga wrote:I am pretty sure even if the control fails, the evil still gets brought to the surface. So Majin Vegetto is still a very real danger even if Babidi can't control him.
I still wonder if the Z-fighters ever made plans for one of their own turning against them, like the Xavier Protocols or Batman's Kryptonite.
Think about who you're referring to.

Of course they didn't.
The only people I could see doing this sort of thing would be Vegeta, Piccolo and Tenshinhan, and given how they blatantly distrust each other, I doubt they'd lay down such plans.
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Post by rereboy » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:17 am

Unlike DC or marvel, the guys in Dragon Ball can't really be brought down with plans and a few items. To beat them, they would simply have to be stronger. Thus, their contingency plan is simply be as strong as possible.

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:05 pm

rereboy wrote:Unlike DC or marvel, the guys in Dragon Ball can't really be brought down with plans and a few items. To beat them, they would simply have to be stronger. Thus, their contingency plan is simply be as strong as possible.
Well yes and no. Yeah power level obviously plays a large factor, but if the gap isn't too wide than other strategies and weaknesses can be taken advantage of. The 3rd Stage Super Saiyan level is a good example of this due to it dropping your speed despite giving you a large power increase.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:59 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote:
rereboy wrote:Unlike DC or marvel, the guys in Dragon Ball can't really be brought down with plans and a few items. To beat them, they would simply have to be stronger. Thus, their contingency plan is simply be as strong as possible.
Well yes and no. Yeah power level obviously plays a large factor, but if the gap isn't too wide than other strategies and weaknesses can be taken advantage of. The 3rd Stage Super Saiyan level is a good example of this due to it dropping your speed despite giving you a large power increase.
I was talking about being stronger overall, not trying to sacrifice speed to raise strength.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:50 pm

rereboy wrote:
BlazingBarrrager wrote:
rereboy wrote:Unlike DC or marvel, the guys in Dragon Ball can't really be brought down with plans and a few items. To beat them, they would simply have to be stronger. Thus, their contingency plan is simply be as strong as possible.
Well yes and no. Yeah power level obviously plays a large factor, but if the gap isn't too wide than other strategies and weaknesses can be taken advantage of. The 3rd Stage Super Saiyan level is a good example of this due to it dropping your speed despite giving you a large power increase.
I was talking about being stronger overall, not trying to sacrifice speed to raise strength.
Well than how this for an example? Nuova Shenron has power comparable to SSJ4 Goku (though SSJ4 Goku still outclasses him in this regard), but severely outclasses the transformation in speed. This is especially the case since their fight was a fair fight so no tricks and such were used.

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Post by rereboy » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:18 pm

Overall stronger doesn't just mean having better strength and not being superior in the rest. Overall stronger means being, overall, superior.

In DC, you want to take out Superman, you get Kriptonite. You want to take out Martian Manhunter, you abuse his fear of fire. And so on.

In Dragon Ball, basically, you just are or try to be overall stronger than the threat. There's no real nuances like clear weak points, or characters that just are good at one thing (being fast for example, like the Flash) and not the rest. Special techniques that allow you to take care of a stronger opponent are very rare and always fold if the opponent in not within an acceptable level of power difference compared to the user, differences between strength and speed are also rare and situational and never extreme, and within the manga it only really mattered as part of a form that artificially increased the strength of the user, and so on.

Basically, within the DC or marvel universe, plans and items make sense because the characters actually have weak points and can be rendered useless thanks to them, and most characters aren't good at everything, usually they are just specialized on a skill or a few skills, so plans or items that allows you to bypass those skills are very effective. In the Dragon Ball that doesn't really happen, characters pretty much all have a rounded skill set and no clear weak points and so, the way to beat them is simply to have more than them.

The only things I can come up are maybe trying to lure the threat to the ROSAT like Piccolo did, or somehow getting the threat teleported far away and there's plenty of holes in those plans.

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