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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Saiga » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:46 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Was it ever officialy confirmed that DB' Arale isn't Dr. Slump's Arale? No. Do I care if Dr. Slump's logic doesn't fit DB's logic? No. Was Arale's and co. cameo meaningless and skippable? No. Do I consider Dr. Slump canon to DB? Yes.
So why is Senbei so much less intelligent than in Dr. Slump?
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

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Saiga wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Was it ever officialy confirmed that DB' Arale isn't Dr. Slump's Arale? No. Do I care if Dr. Slump's logic doesn't fit DB's logic? No. Was Arale's and co. cameo meaningless and skippable? No. Do I consider Dr. Slump canon to DB? Yes.
So why is Senbei so much less intelligent than in Dr. Slump?
Because he is not only intelligent, but stupid too! :P
Seriously now, I know what you mean. Senbei could create crazy things, but couldn't fix a radar... Well, maybe because Bulma used different technology, in which Senbei wasn't familiar with?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Saiga » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:59 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Saiga wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Was it ever officialy confirmed that DB' Arale isn't Dr. Slump's Arale? No. Do I care if Dr. Slump's logic doesn't fit DB's logic? No. Was Arale's and co. cameo meaningless and skippable? No. Do I consider Dr. Slump canon to DB? Yes.
So why is Senbei so much less intelligent than in Dr. Slump?
Because he is not only intelligent, but stupid too! :P
Seriously now, I know what you mean. Senbei could create crazy things, but couldn't fix a radar... Well, maybe because Bulma used different technology, in which Senbei wasn't familiar with?
That's why I think it's easier just to consider them different from the Dr. Slump versions.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Saiga » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:13 pm

Fox666 wrote:
Saiga wrote:So why is Senbei so much less intelligent than in Dr. Slump?
Is he less intelligence or is Bulma super smart?
His inventions in Dr. Slump would put Bulma to shame.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Drayenko » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:43 am

That's because Dragon Ball is a manga closer to reality.

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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Kaboom » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:14 pm

Fox666 wrote:Goku (Super Saiyan 3): 1,150,000,000 (3 million x400)
Goku (Super Saiyan 4): 1,500,000,000 (3 million x500)
So... whoever came up with those is assuming that Goku's regular form NEVER got any stronger after Namek? Okay.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Saiga » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:07 pm

Fox666 wrote: Cell: 900,000,000
Majin Buu (Good): 1,000,000,000
Majin Buu (Pure): 1,150,000,000
Goku (Super Saiyan 3): 1,150,000,000
Oh hell no.
Fox666 wrote: Goku (Super Saiyan 3): 1,150,000,000
Broli (bulked up) 1,400,000,000
Goku (Super Saiyan 4): 1,500,000,000
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:09 pm

I think we can safely say that these battle powers are not from a guidebook, but the work of a fan or supplementary material for a card/video game.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Perfect » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:12 am

I see no suggesting material that shows they're from a video game, and until such evidence surfaces, they're as fake as Mr. Satan's win against Cell.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by masterotaku » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:38 am

Fox666 wrote: Cell: 900,000,000
Goku (Super Saiyan 3): 1,150,000,000
Broli (bulked up) 1,400,000,000
Facepalm :roll: . All that BP after Freezer look very unrealistic.

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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:47 pm

Fox666 wrote:Technically supplementary material is "official". Maybe you could say they are not canon for the manga...
Well, you know what I mean. "Official" as in, from a guidebook or something.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Goten Forever » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:48 pm

Fox666 wrote:As far I can understand, according to Toei website, Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta is 10 times stronger than a Super Saiyan 4.

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So SSJ 3 Gotenks was ten times stronger than a SSJ3?

Find that difficult to believe - the world would have imploded. Surprised it didn't with Gogeta.
So what does fusion strength go by? The part or the total? Or the maximum strength of the Fusers?
I'd say that Gotenks = about 3-4x Goten or Trunks individually...
OR since SSJ3 Gotenks was formed by SSJ + SSJ, ten times SSJ...
but I heard the SSJ stage multiplier was x50 so SSJ3 should be SSJx50 to the power of 2...

What about normal Gogeta?
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Bussani » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:49 pm

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Fox666 wrote:As far I can understand, according to Toei website, Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta is 10 times stronger than a Super Saiyan 4.

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That was a mistranslation. It actually says he's several tens of times stronger than the individual Super Saiyan 4s were.
So SSJ 3 Gotenks was [several] ten [of] times stronger than a SSJ3?

It may or may not work that way.
but I heard the SSJ stage multiplier was x50 so SSJ3 should be SSJx50 to the power of 2...

The multipliers given by the Super Exciting Guides were x50 for Super Saiyan, double that for Super Saiyan 2, and quadrupedal Super Saiyan 2 for Super Saiyan 3 (so x50 base, x100 base, and x400 base, respectively). But whether you accept these values or not is up to you.
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