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by pacz360 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:43 pm
ssjjanemba wrote:pacz360 wrote:ssjjanemba wrote:SSJ3 Goku vs Superman would be a great fight. SSGSS goku vs superman? LOL. That version of Goku got one shotted by Sorbet. Superman would effortlessly dispatch of that version of Goku.
You realize goku had his guard down when sorbet hit him right? Swear people tend to forget that not that it would change the outcome mind you

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So if Goku had his guard down, could Mr.Satan wound him with a pistol?
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considering he took a bullet to the head in chapter 1 of the manga.
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by ssjjanemba » Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:53 pm
But his guard was up

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by pacz360 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:00 pm
ssjjanemba wrote:But his guard was up

Doesn't mean a bullet will kill him guard up or not
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by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:07 pm
Should this thread be closed ?, as disscusions not related to this topic are being posted.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
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by singsing » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:21 pm
ssjjanemba wrote:But his guard was up

No it wasn't. He didn't even know what a bullet was.
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by Bullza » Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:05 pm
He also got shot in the face with a Sniper Rifle and with a missile in the Red Ribbon arc.
His body is naturally tough. By the time he became a Super Saiyan he was tough enough to likely survive Planet Namek exploding on him and that was a bigger planet than Earth.
As a Super Saiyan God he can take blows from Beerus and keep fighting while that same person who can destroy half a planet with a tap.
He isn't Superman tough though.
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by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:00 am
One could say that both Goku and Superman are no more or less tough than the plot demands they be.
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by miguelnuva1 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:12 am
Bullza wrote:He also got shot in the face with a Sniper Rifle and with a missile in the Red Ribbon arc.
His body is naturally tough. By the time he became a Super Saiyan he was tough enough to likely survive Planet Namek exploding on him and that was a bigger planet than Earth.
No proof of that.
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by Puto » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:20 am
No, but Freeza did survive that—while already heavily injured—and Goku is supposed to be stronger than him.
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by rereboy » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:33 am
miguelnuva1 wrote:
No proof of that.
Freeza survived that with a mangled body and very low Ki. It's illogical to think someone much stronger than him wouldn't be able to take the same force, especially at full health and power. What would kill Goku in that situation is the lack of oxygen, nothing else. Even in the Namek saga, Freeza stated that Goku wouldn't be able to survive in space, not that the explosion would definitely kill him.
Requiring proof of that is that requiring proof that Freeza could beat Roshi. While there's no direct comparison, by virtue of indirect comparison and scaling there's no other conclusion.
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by Saiyan007 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:56 am
Not too mention Trunks vs Goku sword fight proved that Goku's finger is more durable than mecha Freeza who is above a chopped in half left for dead Freeza who survived the planet exploding
Don't see why Goku can't survive a planet exploding the lack of air is the only problem saying he can't is saying he's less durable than a chopped in half Freeza

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by White Oni » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:41 pm
Polyphase Avatron wrote:One could say that both Goku and Superman are no more or less tough than the plot demands they be.
Really? What outliers can you think of off the top of your head for Goku? I can think of more than 10 for superman and that's with a pretty limited knowledge of the character.
The only PIS power I can think of for goku is his mind reading ability...
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by Hellspawn28 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:53 pm
DBZ fanboys always like to downplay superheroes for getting hurt by smaller things when DB characters get hurt by ki blast that do very little to no damage to the Planet. Yeah there's ki control, but I don't think ki control can be use as a excuse for everything though.
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by pacz360 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:07 pm
Hellspawn28 wrote:DBZ fanboys always like to downplay superheroes for getting hurt by smaller things when DB characters get hurt by ki blast that do very little to no damage to the Planet. Yeah there's ki control, but I don't think ki control can be use as a excuse for everything though.
Every fanboys does that shit not just dbz fanboys comic fanboys always bring up that 40 ton crap multiple times besides fanboys from either comics,anime, ,video games will always try to downplay feat from other characters which in reality not every characters in fiction are gonna be consistent with their feats.
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by miguelnuva1 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:16 pm
rereboy wrote:miguelnuva1 wrote:
No proof of that.
Freeza survived that with a mangled body and very low Ki. It's illogical to think someone much stronger than him wouldn't be able to take the same force, especially at full health and power. What would kill Goku in that situation is the lack of oxygen, nothing else. Even in the Namek saga, Freeza stated that Goku wouldn't be able to survive in space, not that the explosion would definitely kill him.
Requiring proof of that is that requiring proof that Freeza could beat Roshi. While there's no direct comparison, by virtue of indirect comparison and scaling there's no other conclusion.
Hasn't the fandom argues for years Frieza was more durable physicallythan Goku. If 16's b9mb, semi cell's explosion, Buu's attack and even lava cannhurt Goku then the heat of the planet wiuld kill him.
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by pacz360 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:52 pm
miguelnuva1 wrote:rereboy wrote:miguelnuva1 wrote:
No proof of that.
Freeza survived that with a mangled body and very low Ki. It's illogical to think someone much stronger than him wouldn't be able to take the same force, especially at full health and power. What would kill Goku in that situation is the lack of oxygen, nothing else. Even in the Namek saga, Freeza stated that Goku wouldn't be able to survive in space, not that the explosion would definitely kill him.
Requiring proof of that is that requiring proof that Freeza could beat Roshi. While there's no direct comparison, by virtue of indirect comparison and scaling there's no other conclusion.
Hasn't the fandom argues for years Freeza was more durable physicallythan Goku. If 16's b9mb, semi cell's explosion, Buu's attack and even lava cannhurt Goku then the heat of the planet wiuld kill him.
No cause freeza survived one while cut in half than later sliced up by trunks who in turned use the sword on goku and didn't even cut him.
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by rereboy » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:25 pm
miguelnuva1 wrote:
Hasn't the fandom argues for years Freeza was more durable physicallythan Goku. If 16's b9mb, semi cell's explosion, Buu's attack and even lava cannhurt Goku then the heat of the planet wiuld kill him.
Your argument is that Freeza is so much more durable physically than Goku that Freeza, with half his body missing and practically no Ki left, can tank what Goku, at full power and health, can't? If that was the case, Freeza would never lose to Goku.
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by Bullza » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:07 pm
Puto wrote:No, but Freeza did survive that—while already heavily injured—and Goku is supposed to be stronger than him.
Plus a few times Frieza referred to the fact that Goku being unable to breathe in Space was what would finish him off. If the explosion itself was enough to kill Goku then there'd be no point in even bringing that up.
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by miguelnuva1 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:14 pm
rereboy wrote:miguelnuva1 wrote:
Hasn't the fandom argues for years Freeza was more durable physicallythan Goku. If 16's b9mb, semi cell's explosion, Buu's attack and even lava cannhurt Goku then the heat of the planet wiuld kill him.
Your argument is that Freeza is so much more durable physically than Goku that Freeza, with half his body missing and practically no Ki left, can tank what Goku, at full power and health, can't? If that was the case, Freeza would never lose to Goku.
My argument is that Goku couldn't survive the heat of the explosion, also Frieza with no ki> Goku no ki. Goku's ki allows him to beat Frieza unless you think Goku can be chopped in half and survive an explosion.
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by Bullza » Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:56 pm
Why do you assume he wouldn't survive the heat of the explosion?