The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

[Valerius Dover]

Ah, the one that's missing from the Japanese version. Well, it's probably just trimming the last two episodes down to one.

[Cold Skin]

^ That would make the most sense, since it would be just one last episode to piece together instead of triggering a chain reaction forcing them to edit a bunch of episodes.

[DBZ_Lee]

^ That would make the most sense, since it would be just one last episode to piece together instead of triggering a chain reaction forcing them to edit a bunch of episodes.

I think that is exactly what is going to be the case here. Every bit of filler and breathing room will be removed, literally going by the manga panels.
International Kai will cover the final 3 episodes in 2, Japan will do it in one.

[Darkblade1995]

I actually think that the last 3 Z episodes will remain unedited. Okay maybe they will have a recap at the end of the last episode, but not much would get cut out. Episode 156 seems to have footage up to where Goku throws the Genki Dama. I think they will end the episode there, and then 157 will have the Genki Dama vs Kid Buu struggle, and the second half will have the first half of episode 287 of Z. 288 Is filler, so Z has 3 episodes left, and so does The Final Chapters. So I think that those episodes will remain unedited, and the Japanese version will cut those 3 episodes into 2. Or maybe we will see a montage episode, but I highly doubt it.

[DBZ_Lee]

I actually think that the last 3 Z episodes will remain unedited. Okay maybe they will have a recap at the end of the last episode, but not much would get cut out. Episode 156 seems to have footage up to where Goku throws the Genki Dama. I think they will end the episode there, and then 157 will have the Genki Dama vs Kid Buu struggle, and the second half will have the first half of episode 287 of Z. 288 Is filler, so Z has 3 episodes left, and so does The Final Chapters. So I think that those episodes will remain unedited, and the Japanese version will cut those 3 episodes into 2. Or maybe we will see a montage episode, but I highly doubt it.

I would have to agree with you now, having thought about it. My thinking is that 163 (International Version) will end at the start of Z 286 (about 5 mins in) the remainder of Z 286 and the first half of 287 will be covered in Kai 164, the second half of 287 will be trimmed off, along with the filler episode 288, 165 will then begin with 289, followed by 166 (290) 167 (291).

So, yeah, I totally agree - it looks as though the last three International episodes will match Z, with the footage swapped around to get the Manga scenes as close as possible, which is a pattern for the majority of this iteration of Kai.

[Darkblade1995]

Now having put a bit more thought into it, I think they are going to do it a bit differently. This weeks episode (International episode 163) will end with Goku throwing the Genki Dama. The next Episode will end with Mr Satan telling everbody on Earth that Buu is dead. Then 165 will start with Goku and the others appearing on the Lookout, and then we will fastforward 10 years later. The very last episode will probably start the same as 291, but we will have a 2-4 minute recap of the events of the series. I think it will go this way, because, even though they left a lot of filler in, there is not one episode (except for International episode 100) that is the same as the Z episode. And since they have like 15 minutes left of episode 286 after this episode, they will probably keep that as is, and edit the first 5 minutes of 287 into International 165.

[DBZ_Lee]

Now having put a bit more thought into it, I think they are going to do it a bit differently. This weeks episode (International episode 163) will end with Goku throwing the Genki Dama. The next Episode will end with Mr Satan telling everbody on Earth that Buu is dead. Then 165 will start with Goku and the others appearing on the Lookout, and then we will fastforward 10 years later. The very last episode will probably start the same as 291, but we will have a 2-4 minute recap of the events of the series. I think it will go this way, because, even though they left a lot of filler in, there is not one episode (except for International episode 100) that is the same as the Z episode. And since they have like 15 minutes left of episode 286 after this episode, they will probably keep that as is, and edit the first 5 minutes of 287 into International 165.

I can see something like that being the case here, also. Like the first episode of the International Version had a 5 minute recap, whereas the Japanese one trimmed it to 30 seconds.

EDIT:

Right, this week's Kai finished 6 minutes into DBZ 286. Next week (just like you said) should wrap up the scenes on the Supreme World of the Kais, meaning International 165 should begin with everyone on the Lookout.

[Freeza Soldier #156]

My French BD box arrived on Monday and I've watched up to episode 105. I must say, I'm really enjoying the International version much more than the Japanese. The pacing of these early episodes is definitely improved. It really shows how much some of the filler actually did this arc some good. It also helps that most of the filler that was left in, is filler that I actually enjoy. Also, unlike the Japanese version, this version feels much more like a continuation of Kai 1.0 to me, it's hard to explain. All and all, I'm very happy with the International version and can't wait for the dub!

[sintzu]

My French BD box arrived on Monday and I've watched up to episode 105. I must say, I'm really enjoying the International version much more than the Japanese. The pacing of these early episodes is definitely improved. It really shows how much some of the filler actually did this arc some good. It also helps that most of the filler that was left in, is filler that I actually enjoy. Also, unlike the Japanese version, this version feels much more like a continuation of Kai 1.0 to me, it's hard to explain. All and all, I'm very happy with the International version and can't wait for the dub!

How's the picture quality compared to the TV broadcast ?

[TheGmGoken]

How's Korean Kai? Still airing?

[ShinGaijin]

How's Korean Kai? Still airing?

Here's for ya ! http://jbox.co.kr/content/4034

[Naruto6583]

How's Korean Kai? Still airing?

Here's for ya ! http://jbox.co.kr/content/4034

So they're at the fight with gohan and buu?

[Valerius Dover]

Any sign of Let it Burn in the international version yet? I believe today should be the day Buu gets defeated in France.

[DBZ_Lee]

Any sign of Let it Burn in the international version yet? I believe today should be the day Buu gets defeated in France.

No "let it Burn" this week. The episode was exactly the same as the Japanese version. So the final 3 episodes will be edited down into 2 for Japan.

At the moment, it is looking likely that the final three episodes for the International Version will be simply Z 289, 290 & 291. The difference being, that they will simply swap the footage around so that the Manga scenes are closer together than they were originally.
Though, the other solution would be for International #165 to be a recap, which seems unlikely. I haven't seen the NEP from the French broadcast, but it is obvious that it will be different from the Japanese one, this of course, will give us a clear idea of the difference between the two versions.

[Valerius Dover]

No "let it Burn" this week. The episode was exactly the same as the Japanese version. So the final 3 episodes will be edited down into 2 for Japan.

This is really weird. I wold've expected it to be here. It seems really odd that they would go through the trouble of making a 5 minute long song for the international version of Kai only to never use it in the actual series. I mean, what was the point of that? Even the Opening and Ending don't have full versions, but this song not used in the series does? Kai logic, I guess.

Yeah, I know there are still 3 episodes left, but it's very unlikely this'll be used during the End of Z portion.

On another note, when is Funi making their September announcements?

[DBZ_Lee]

No "let it Burn" this week. The episode was exactly the same as the Japanese version. So the final 3 episodes will be edited down into 2 for Japan.

This is really weird. I wold've expected it to be here. It seems really odd that they would go through the trouble of making a 5 minute long song for the international version of Kai only to never use it in the actual series. I mean, what was the point of that? Even the Opening and Ending don't have full versions, but this song not used in the series does? Kai logic, I guess.

Yeah, I know there are still 3 episodes left, but it's very unlikely this'll be used during the End of Z portion.

On another note, when is Funi making their September announcements?

Should be sometime this week, it would make sense for FUNi to release the first part in September, following "F"s theatrical run in August, but judging by how they've dropped the ball with this, I don't expect it anytime soon.

[sintzu]

Should be sometime this week, it would make sense for FUNi to release the first part in September, following "F"s theatrical run in August, but judging by how they've dropped the ball with this, I don't expect it anytime soon.

Here it is :

http://www.funimation.com/forum/showthr ... mber-15%29

No Kai for god knows why.

[DBZ_Lee]

Should be sometime this week, it would make sense for FUNi to release the first part in September, following "F"s theatrical run in August, but judging by how they've dropped the ball with this, I don't expect it anytime soon.

Here it is :

http://www.funimation.com/forum/showthr ... mber-15%29

No Kai for god knows why.

Not surprised in the least. Very disappointing.

[sintzu]

Not surprised in the least. Very disappointing.

What's taking so long ? with it being their biggest brand wouldn't they want to release it as fast as they can ?

[DB_Fan1991]

I have a feeling we won't get The Final Chapters until early next year.