Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2
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Re: Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2
At the moment the strongest DB character that could exist would take these ingredients.
GT Goku and Vegeta, assuming the base GT Goku is equal to SSJ3 Z Goku thing is true and Vegeta isn't far behind, fused into Veggeto, then have him go SSGSSJ.
Anyway, what about Goku vs Green Lantern (Half Jordan)? I'm not a comics expert but as far as I know the lantern's power isn't as insane as Supes, and the rings can run out of power faster making them a better match for Goku's ki.
GT Goku and Vegeta, assuming the base GT Goku is equal to SSJ3 Z Goku thing is true and Vegeta isn't far behind, fused into Veggeto, then have him go SSGSSJ.
Anyway, what about Goku vs Green Lantern (Half Jordan)? I'm not a comics expert but as far as I know the lantern's power isn't as insane as Supes, and the rings can run out of power faster making them a better match for Goku's ki.
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I kinda answered that quite a few pages back. The Green Lanterns are quite dependent on a bunch of variables. If it's just standard Hal, I think Goku could win easily but if it's say...Crazy Hal Jordon who killed a bunch of green lanterns and is wearing 10 power rings or a hypothetical Hal Jordon who charged his ring directly from the main battery...then yes he could probably beat Goku. John Stewart and Kyle Reiner would fair better because they're actually creative people (John is an architect while Kyle is an artist.) so this gives them way more out of the construct powers of the ring. Guy Gardner wouldn't hesitate to just kill, he's so far the only earth lantern to kill as well. As a friend of mine put it "Guy would just construct an energy hand grenade in Goku's mouth and grin like a mad man. Guy's kinda that crazy." cause really Guy Garden is kinda crazy...ringworm128 wrote:At the moment the strongest DB character that could exist would take these ingredients.
GT Goku and Vegeta, assuming the base GT Goku is equal to SSJ3 Z Goku thing is true and Vegeta isn't far behind, fused into Veggeto, then have him go SSGSSJ.
Anyway, what about Goku vs Green Lantern (Half Jordan)? I'm not a comics expert but as far as I know the lantern's power isn't as insane as Supes, and the rings can run out of power faster making them a better match for Goku's ki.
Either way that's my take on it, obviously everyone may have different opinions or thoughts but I hope that answers some questions.
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Re: Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2
Hypothetically the strongest character that could have existed would have been if Kid Buu was still around and he absorbed SSGSS Vegito, Beerus, Whis, Omega Shenron etc.At the moment the strongest DB character that could exist would take these ingredients.
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GT characters aren't that strong IMO. Beerus could beat all of them.
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While I agree with this, I do think Base Gokuu in GT was stronger than pre-God base Gokuu at the start of Super/BoG. Therefore, a SSGSS GT Gokuu would necessarily be stronger. I think he would be stronger than Beerus in SSGSS form, in fact. If they fused into Vegetto...then well, it's just insane.Polyphase Avatron wrote:GT characters aren't that strong IMO. Beerus could beat all of them.
Even Screwattack admits that a multi-universe busting attack could kill Superman, so I would say SSGSS Vegetto has this in the bag even when you highball Supes like they did.
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Hal is above Supes typically and has a LOT of versatility.ringworm128 wrote:At the moment the strongest DB character that could exist would take these ingredients.
GT Goku and Vegeta, assuming the base GT Goku is equal to SSJ3 Z Goku thing is true and Vegeta isn't far behind, fused into Veggeto, then have him go SSGSSJ.
Anyway, what about Goku vs Green Lantern (Half Jordan)? I'm not a comics expert but as far as I know the lantern's power isn't as insane as Supes, and the rings can run out of power faster making them a better match for Goku's ki.
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A Green Lantern given permission to kill, and at least some creativity could take out any of the "human" characters. A bubble around their heads cutting off air, making a bubble inside an artery, forcing tendrils of energy down their eyes, throat, and nose, that kind of thing. They'd have a harder time against Freeza, Cell, or Buu, though, since they aren't as biologically fragile as Earthlings or Saiyans, and a GL might have to resort to making strength-boosting willpower body armor or something, which would make the fights interesting, if nothing else. The problem is, GL's often have to be depicted as having the imagination of the most boring old man you'll ever meet because plot, and they typically can't kill, with their rings shutting down if they intend to do so. That's why half the time you'll just see Jordan make a giant green fist instead of casually tearing everything apart.
This is assuming that these are "normal human" Green Lanterns, of course. There's one who is a sentient smallpox virus. Goku's not going to be doing anything against him. A few of them are highly telepathic, etc. And the entities, like Ion or Parallax are so far beyond that it's not even funny. Hal as Parallax was among the strongest beings in the DC Universe, leagues above Superman in every conceivable level. GL Sodam Yat as Ion managed to engage in an extended fight with Superboy Prime, who was much stronger than Superman, and with greater control of the Ion entity, should be capable of the same things that Parallax did.
This is assuming that these are "normal human" Green Lanterns, of course. There's one who is a sentient smallpox virus. Goku's not going to be doing anything against him. A few of them are highly telepathic, etc. And the entities, like Ion or Parallax are so far beyond that it's not even funny. Hal as Parallax was among the strongest beings in the DC Universe, leagues above Superman in every conceivable level. GL Sodam Yat as Ion managed to engage in an extended fight with Superboy Prime, who was much stronger than Superman, and with greater control of the Ion entity, should be capable of the same things that Parallax did.
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Re: Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2
SSJ4 Gogeta is the only GT character that I could see being a match for the new God level characters. Omega Shenron maybe.
I kinda base it around the comment of Super Vegito being stronger than SSJ4 Goku. So the SSJ4's, Baby, Super 17, Nova and Syn Shenron would all be no match for SSJG Goku but Omega Shenron could be around that level and SSJ4 Gogeta would be up there with the best of them.
I kinda base it around the comment of Super Vegito being stronger than SSJ4 Goku. So the SSJ4's, Baby, Super 17, Nova and Syn Shenron would all be no match for SSJG Goku but Omega Shenron could be around that level and SSJ4 Gogeta would be up there with the best of them.
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So...how 'bout that universe bustin'?
Any thoughts on how the Gods face up against their traditional crossover rivals now?
Any thoughts on how the Gods face up against their traditional crossover rivals now?
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At this rate, if Goku continues to get stronger like what we saw in episode 12 then God knows how powerful he'll be by the end of Super. By then you can expect a Goku vs Superman 3.Blackstripe wrote:So...how 'bout that universe bustin'?
Any thoughts on how the Gods face up against their traditional crossover rivals now?
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And they will bring up the "Superman power is limitless" BS again, i'm calling it.Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:At this rate, if Goku continues to get stronger like what we saw in episode 12 then God knows how powerful he'll be by the end of Super. By then you can expect a Goku vs Superman 3.Blackstripe wrote:So...how 'bout that universe bustin'?
Any thoughts on how the Gods face up against their traditional crossover rivals now?
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And I'm going to call that there won't be a Supes vs Goku 3. Mostly because I'm sure the parties involved with such a decision would look at the BoG retelling and file it under filler/non canon...the feat is cool I guess but I don't think it's enough reason to create an episode 3 of this and even if they did Supes would just win again...not saying that to fanboy just that it's the nature of how the character is used.Neo-Makaiōshin wrote: And they will bring up the "Superman power is limitless" BS again, i'm calling it.
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Well, even if Supes' strength is limitless, that still doesn't put him at the top. He lifted half of Spectre and Wonder Woman lifted the other half; ergo, isn't her strength also limitless? And yet, isn't the common wisdom that he's stronger than her?Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:And they will bring up the "Superman power is limitless" BS again, i'm calling it.Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:At this rate, if Goku continues to get stronger like what we saw in episode 12 then God knows how powerful he'll be by the end of Super. By then you can expect a Goku vs Superman 3.Blackstripe wrote:So...how 'bout that universe bustin'?
Any thoughts on how the Gods face up against their traditional crossover rivals now?
So if we have one character (Wonder Woman) with infinite strength being outclassed, why do they insist on defining another character (Supes) demonstrating infinite strength as the absolute upper limit for a corporeal character?
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Personally though, I'm not expecting a Goku vs Superman 3. The second fight to me seemed like all they wanted to convey was fingers in their ears, insisting they were done giving the issue any serious thought while they reinforced what I thought was the least convincing part of their argument.
I mean, yes, the second fight between Goku and Superman ended the only way it could. They defined Superman as "that guy who cannot be defeated by anyone including Goku", and then they defined Goku as "that guy who must have a number of people stronger than him so he can aspire to greater strength, and one of these people must be Superman".
So yes, when you place those two definitions in conflict with each other, the only natural conclusion is Superman winning. The conclusion follows the premise.
Of course, I can do that, too. If I define bacon as "your favorite food", then the conclusion "you like bacon" is the only conclusion that can follow. Thing is, I don't get to define bacon as "your favorite food".
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Re: Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2
Nah Goku can win long as it's not Silver Age Supes.(Though Robot is not Superman and SPOM is featless by powerscaling he's galaxy/multi-galaxy level at best) But killing Post-Crisis Supes would be too hard but KOing him shouldn't be problem thou.
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After Super episode 12, internet just exploded.
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I wanna see them do something like Beerus vs Thor
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In hindsight I think they kinda wasted Vegeta on his Death Battle. I suppose they could do another though because there were two with Batman.
Beerus needs to fight Asura though.
Beerus needs to fight Asura though.
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Beerus would 1 shot asura after this past episode.
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The last thing we need is another video... I'm getting the feeling I could come back 20 years from now and find "Goku vs. Superman, part 37" on ScrewAttack.
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People find the match up interesting, nothing wrong with that. I know I've seen YouTube videos and forums all talking about this feat today. Doesn't surprise me.