Who could replace Nozawa & Schemmel?

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:09 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:I really dont understand the Schemmel hate here. Yeah, he was pretty bad when he first started doing Goku but he knocked it out of the park in my opinion with the Kai dub. I really dont hear a Superman or Superhero like tone with him anymore, at least not in Kai. I just hear Goku.

Most aren't even hating on Schemmel at all. Just saying that his Goku doesn't really reach out to us like Nozawa's does.

TheBlackPaladin · Post by **TheBlackPaladin** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:35 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:I really dont understand the Schemmel hate here. Yeah, he was pretty bad when he first started doing Goku but he knocked it out of the park in my opinion with the Kai dub. I really dont hear a Superman or Superhero like tone with him anymore, at least not in Kai. I just hear Goku.
Most aren't even hating on Schemmel at all. Just saying that his Goku doesn't really reach out to us like Nozawa's does.

And that's fine. Quite frankly, even the people who do "hate" Schemmel's performance are fine in that they're entitled to their opinion. I was just noting that there are a few people here and there who still "loathe" his performance and--while they are absolutely allowed to have that opinion--I personally don't get how his performance is loathe-worthy now. Back in "Season 3," maybe, but now? *shrug* I just don't hear what they're hearing.

But hey, an opinion is an opinion, people hear different things.

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:57 pm

Season 3 sounds like heaven compared to the big green dub. lol they could have not gave a crap about it and let it go in that direction. LOL

TheBlackPaladin · Post by **TheBlackPaladin** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:03 pm

samuraix123 wrote:Season 3 sounds like heaven compared to the big green dub. lol they could have not gave a crap about it and let it go in that direction. LOL

Be that as it may, I don't think people have to like a performance because somewhere out there, some other people did it worse. Worse dubs of DBZ than FUNimation's do exist, but....if you don't like something, you don't like something.

Really, from listening to the analyses of all the other dubs of DBZ, it seems like DBZ got a lot of bad dubs, which were bad for one reason or another. The only dub of DBZ that seems to be consistently good on the writing, acting, and censorship fronts is the Latino Spanish dub. Other dubs--including FUNimation's--reach that level of quality at points/periods of time, but none as consistently as the Latino Spanish dub.

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:50 pm

Haha You got me there

Gokuden · Post by **Gokuden** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:37 pm

I heard the Swedish, Spanish, Italian, Hong Kong, and German dubs were stellar as they hired high-profile voice/actors to do the voices.
I don't see why for the German dub.

El Diabeetus · Post by **El Diabeetus** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:39 pm

As far as I can tell the Brasilian dub is even more accurate than the Latino Spanish dub. But, I'm not fluent in either language. So I might be wrong.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:06 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Most aren't even hating on Schemmel at all. Just saying that his Goku doesn't really reach out to us like Nozawa's does.

Yeah, Sean Schemmel (why they'd name him Sean if it sounds like Shawn?!) is a great voice actor but for Son he just doesn't attract the essence that Nozawa, Kelamis, Castañeda, Bezerra and MasakoX have.

It's pointless to say that the FUNimation Kai dub is accurate if the viewer doesn't like the voices. There were accurate dubs of Dragon Ball Z (FUNi's accurate dub is Kai for Z) before FUNimation done it themselves.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:18 pm

Gokuden wrote:I heard the Swedish (...) dubs were stellar.

You heard wrong. It's purely based on the AB Groupe dub, so it's pretty awful.

TheBlackPaladin · Post by **TheBlackPaladin** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:38 pm

Gokuden wrote:I heard the Swedish, Spanish, Italian, Hong Kong, and German dubs were stellar as they hired high-profile voice/actors to do the voices.
I don't see why for the German dub.

I actually have heard good stuff about the Italian dub. Apparently an uncut Italian dub was produced.

As far as the Spanish dub is concerned, if you mean Latino Spanish, then yes, that dub is often considered to be the best dub DBZ got. The European Spanish dub on the other hand....huge translation problems, being based on the French dub's scripts for the most part, along with most of their pre-existing visual edits. I don't speak enough Spanish to get a super-accurate feel for the acting, but Latino Spanish fans seem to vehemently insist that the acting in the Latino Spanish dub is superior.

Haven't heard a ton about the Hong Kong dub.

The German dub....again, I don't speak enough German to get a super-accurate feel for the acting, but by some accounts--including Kanzenshuuer Timo--the dub was, "f***ing terrible." However, he also said--and I agree--that the one, absolutely spectacular thing to come out of that dub was the German dubs of the original Japanese songs, which were incredibly well done.

Dbzfan94 · Post by **Dbzfan94** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:55 am

For Nozawa's replacement, Ryusei Nakao
For Schemmel's replacement, Chris Sabat.

Mewzard · Post by **Mewzard** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:44 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Most aren't even hating on Schemmel at all. Just saying that his Goku doesn't really reach out to us like Nozawa's does.
Yeah, Sean Schemmel (why they'd name him Sean if it sounds like Shawn?!) is a great voice actor but for Son he just doesn't attract the essence that Nozawa, Kelamis, Castañeda, Bezerra and MasakoX have.

It's pointless to say that the FUNimation Kai dub is accurate if the viewer doesn't like the voices. There were accurate dubs of Dragon Ball Z (FUNi's accurate dub is Kai for Z) before FUNimation done it themselves.

Sean is a name you know. >_>

And I completely disagree. I feel Schemmel captures the essence of Goku pretty damn well (I'd argue moreso than Kelamis, though I don't doubt he could do a better job now, given the option).

In other languages, probably, but for English, we didn't get much in the way of accurate dubbing prior to Kai for the Z material.

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:00 pm

Yeah, Sean Schemmel (why they'd name him Sean if it sounds like Shawn?!) is a great voice actor but for Son he just doesn't attract the essence that Nozawa, Kelamis, Castañeda, Bezerra and MasakoX have.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! A million times no. For one Kelamis is terrible, but MasakoX does not count! MasakoX does not play Goku, he plays Parody Goku. Stop putting them in the same vicinity of the actual official voice actors. Getting back to Kelamis, to get essence of a character, you have to be a talented voice actor. I haven't heard any of his other roles, but as Goku, he was awful, even at his best.

Also, Sean is the Irish spelling.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:11 pm

You might not like Kelamis but you can't deny he did a spectacular voice work on the films 1-3, especially the second one.

I'd love if Kelamis was the VA of 2014's "Ocean Dub" of Kai.

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:36 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:You might not like Kelamis but you can't deny he did a spectacular voice work on the films 1-3, especially the second one.

I'm not denying, I don't think it's true. At Kelamis's best, he's okay. Let's not go overboard.

YouTube · Post by **Ajay** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:46 pm

ABED wrote:At Kelamis's best, he's okay. Let's not go overboard.

You speak so objectively about this, it's very annoying.

I can see people not liking him certainly, his work on the actual show was never particularly great but I do agree with dbboxkaifan, his work on the first three movies was really impressive.

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:08 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:
ABED wrote:At Kelamis's best, he's okay. Let's not go overboard.
You speak so objectively about this, it's very annoying.

I can see people not liking him certainly, his work on the actual show was never particularly great but I do agree with dbboxkaifan, his work on the first three movies was really impressive.

Do I really have to preface EVERY statement with "in my opinion"?

YouTube · Post by **Ajay** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:39 pm

ABED wrote:Do I really have to preface EVERY statement with "in my opinion"?

Of course not, that would be ridiculous. There's a way of presenting your opinions though and ending your thoughts with 'let's not go overboard' just comes across as very rude and dismissive.

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:12 pm

Sorry, it was meant in jest.

UpFromTheSkies · Post by **UpFromTheSkies** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:42 pm

No one can replace Masako Nozawa, so hopefuly she doesn't decide to retire any time soon.

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