Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2

[Noah]

So according to Superman feats in the last movie, it's pretty obvious to say that he would lose badly to SSJ Goku, right? Not even taking account the God forms

[Khin]

So according to Superman feats in the last movie, it's pretty obvious to say that he would lose badly to SSJ Goku, right? Not even taking account the God forms

Movie superman and Comics Superman are very different that it's not even funny.Even 23rd TB Goku could probably one shot movie Superman.Going by current Goku's feats.He'd wreck any relevant version of Supes like Post Crisis and New 52.Only version he loses are Pre Crisis,Cosmic Armor and Strange Visitor.

[voltlunok]

Can we please stop reviving this thread? It was genuinely dead for a few months and now we're reviving it just cause a movie had superman in it?

[Polyphase Avatron]

So according to Superman feats in the last movie, it's pretty obvious to say that he would lose badly to SSJ Goku, right? Not even taking account the God forms

[Noah]

Can we please stop reviving this thread? It was genuinely dead for a few months and now we're reviving it just cause a movie had superman in it?

I don't see why not, if don't like this thread don't post it, it's simple.

[KentalSSJ6]

Can we please stop reviving this thread? It was genuinely dead for a few months and now we're reviving it just cause a movie had superman in it?

I don't see why not, if don't like this thread don't post it, it's simple.

Except there are clear forum rules about reviving otherwise dead threads.

[voltlunok]

Can we please stop reviving this thread? It was genuinely dead for a few months and now we're reviving it just cause a movie had superman in it?

I don't see why not, if don't like this thread don't post it, it's simple.

This thread has been dead since November, so when it pops back up on my list of threads I'm in, I kinda have to see whats up. No one is even talking about the thread's actual topic anymore, it's just being co-opted into a general purpose Goku vs Supes thread. The actual video this thread is about is now 8 months old at this point, soon to be 9. Plus like KentalSSJ6 says, there are rules about reviving dead threads and this thread has died and ticked over to the second page twice only to be dragged back to the front cause something happened with Goku or something happened with Superman that has no impact on the actual video this thread is about.

[White Oni]

Since super's depiction of the beerus vs goku fight, we have discovered something the video didnt take into account.

SsjG Goku has universe shaking punches. Hell, he could even destroy the entire universe if he throws too many out there.

And this was before the advent of Blupersaiyan and the years of training he did in the hyperbolic chamber.

That being said, Goku clearly outmatches superman in terms of raw strength, durability (he was able to take even stronger punches from beerus) and combat speed (as estsblished earlier in this thread.)

I'm honestly curious as to how anyone imagines any version of superman comes out on top. (Aside from the obvious, non relevant, omnipotent beings that happen to share a similar look and name. But those were never part of this thread.)

I'm not even sure silver age supes can... He kinda has that plot hax thing going for him, yeah, but non of his feats even come close to universe busting... Well, I honestly am no athority on silver age supes. But I have googled the shit out of him and I've yet to see anything like what goku can do in super.

[miguelnuva1]

Since super's depiction of the beerus vs goku fight, we have discovered something the video didnt take into account.

SsjG Goku has universe shaking punches. Hell, he could even destroy the entire universe if he throws too many out there.

And this was before the advent of Blupersaiyan and the years of training he did in the hyperbolic chamber.

That being said, Goku clearly outmatches superman in terms of raw strength, durability (he was able to take even stronger punches from beerus) and combat speed (as estsblished earlier in this thread.)

I'm honestly curious as to how anyone imagines any version of superman comes out on top. (Aside from the obvious, non relevant, omnipotent beings that happen to share a similar look and name. But those were never part of this thread.)

I'm not even sure silver age supes can... He kinda has that plot hax thing going for him, yeah, but non of his feats even come close to universe busting... Well, I honestly am no athority on silver age supes. But I have googled the shit out of him and I've yet to see anything like what goku can do in super.

Silver Age Superman can create anti God vision and revert Goku to SSJ3.

[Bullza]

So according to Superman feats in the last movie, it's pretty obvious to say that he would lose badly to SSJ Goku, right? Not even taking account the God forms

Well it'd seem that way, Superman was hurt pretty badly by that Nuclear bomb. Piccolo Jr probably had similiar power in the 23rd Tournament and Goku just tanked his island buster.

Saiyan Saga Goku might be able to beat him, he seems like he's possibly tougher and his Kamehameha should be able to kill him but Superman is definitley stronger and faster so he could win too.

By the time of the Namek saga though Goku shouldn't have much trouble winning.

[Khin]

Saiyan Arc Goku is overkill.He's planet buster with Kaioken.BOZ Goku would be more than enough.

BOZ Piccolo ~= BOZ Goku and the same Piccolo destroyed the moon with relative ease.

[Bullza]

He's clearly got the destructive power to win and he's obviously more skilled but he hadn't shown to have that kind of destructive power or speed like what Superman has.

Superman was able to stop that terraforming machine while it was making iphim weaker and he caught Lois from wherever she was before she hit the ground.

Plus he's more used to the flying. If Goku could hit him with a Kamehameha he could win but if Superman could grab a hold of him he could probably end him.

[Khin]

The gap between City level and Moon level is so big it's crazy.Superman can be 100x faster than Goku.But he still can't scratch him.It's like a Normal human using only punches and kicks vs. Brick Wall.Unless Supes he can sundip for a long time or use his laser coming from his eyes or whatever it was called.

[Soppa Saia People]

Saiyan Arc Goku is overkill.He's planet buster

How many planets could a planet buster bust if a planet buster could bust planets?

You couldn't have said planet destroyer ?
Anyway as both voltlunok and KentalSSJ6 have said why was this revived especially after it was dead for like 5 months ?

[Bullza]

The difference between their destructive capacity is enormous and Goku easily has that advantage but Superman likely has the same advantage when it comes to strenght.

Superman casually pulled a huge ship through the ice in BvS. Goku was not that strong for a long time, he could probably snap his neck or at least do the same thing he did to Zod and Doomsday and fly him out to space.

I'd say Goku was more powerful but it'd be easier for Superman to beat Goku than the other way around because he'd only really need to grab him and Goku probably wouldn't be able to get free.

[dario03]

How does this movie change anything about this death battle???

Everybody already knew there are versions of Superman that Goku is stronger than and vice versa. The death battle wasn't new movie version of Superman vs Super version of Goku, it was a concept version of Superman based mainly from comic feats and their interpretation of the idea of Superman vs Goku from BoG but with SSB. And it has been said a countless amount of times that different versions of Superman are different in power by a absurd amount. Also do we even know if the nuke is what knocked him out? Maybe it was Doomsday before the nuke hit. Doomsday didn't seem all that bothered by the nuke. Or if it was the nuke maybe it was the radiation of the nuke and not the force. And wasn't the bomb in 16 supposed to kill everybody at the Cell games? Goku was much more powerful than 16 but they all thought it would kill them (heat or radiation perhaps?) But ignoring all of that the main point is that this is a different version of Superman so it doesn't really retroactively change this Death Battle. Maybe they will do live action Superman vs Live action Goku from Evolution some time, then you would maybe have something.

[Bullza]

Was it even a nuclear bomb in Android 16 and it would have been designed to kill a much weaker Goku than what he become by that point.

It was implied that the explosion of a planet wasn't even enough to guarantee killing Goku so a nuke shouldn't really phase him that much.

[dario03]

Was it even a nuclear bomb in Android 16 and it would have been designed to kill a much weaker Goku than what he become by that point.

It was implied that the explosion of a planet wasn't even enough to guarantee killing Goku so a nuke shouldn't really phase him that much.

Don't know if it was a nuke but the designed to kill a much weaker Goku is a bit of the point. It most likely didn't have the same kind of power as Goku but they all seemed to think that it would kill Cell and Goku and everybody else (well Cell seemed concerned and then after the found out it wasn't in 16 anymore he said he didn't think it would).
And the planet exploding thing was always a little odd to me. Seems like the force they could handle but how much heat can they handle? In movie 10 they think Lava would kill Broly (his shield saved him) How hot was Magetta making the ring against Vegeta? Also didn't SSB Vegeta die when Freeza blew up the Earth? I know he would eventually die from lack of air but they made it seem like he died instantly.

[Bullza]

Well Frieza didn't die when Namek exploded and that was when he had no energy left, was chopped in half and had just been blasted into the planet. He also didn't die in RoF even when he was heavily weakened.

If Vegeta did die it was more than likely because of suffocating, same as how it was said Goku would die once Namek exploded.

If were including the movies then Cooler wasn't killed or incinerated after being fired into the sun.

[dario03]

Well Frieza didn't die when Namek exploded and that was when he had no energy left, was chopped in half and had just been blasted into the planet. He also didn't die in RoF even when he was heavily weakened.

If Vegeta did die it was more than likely because of suffocating, same as how it was said Goku would die once Namek exploded.

If were including the movies then Cooler wasn't killed or incinerated after being fired into the sun.

Yeah but Freeza and Cooler are not saiyans.