"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" Official Discussion Thread

[The Desert Bandit]

Unlocked Potential is broken when used on the Earthling race. When you take into consideration the constant ki recovery ability that the earthlings have, this results in canceling out the slow ki draining effect that that Unlock Potential has. So transformation/power up it is effectively infinite on earthlings. This has officially made the Saiyan race, along with practically every other race in the game, worthless in comparison. Man, they really need nerf the Earthling race, if not now, then definitely in Xenoverse 2.

Also, Unlock Potential + "Guess we have to fusion into Vegito" Z-Soul gives a pretty big stat boost.

This is what I have been bitching about the entire time. They go ahead and make balancing changes (which are mostly questionable I might add) to skills and Z-Souls, and yet they have never bothered to work on the races despite knowing how broken some of them are. Making Unlock Potential the way it is just made Earthlings into game breakers now, which is flat out stupid. Either they need to rebalance races (Saiyans and Female Majins really need to be buffed) or not make the same mistake in Xenoverse 2. Wish I could get direct contact with them so I can at least rant about it. Might not get their attention, but at least it would let off some steam.

Saiyans need a buff? With their broken SSJ/SV? Before they buff the Saiyans, they need to nerf SSJ/SV and remove the infinite supers/ultimates.

As for Earthlings need to be nerfed, they need a racial bonus. Their racial bonus is ki recovery. If they remove that, they what else could they possibly give them? They can't leave Earthlings with nothing but balanced stats and the buff when they're at max ki and give other races multiple bonuses. The only change I can see them making is on Unlock Potential, is making it drain ki quicker, which I honestly wouldn't have a problem with.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Unlocked Potential is broken when used on the Earthling race. When you take into consideration the constant ki recovery ability that the earthlings have, this results in canceling out the slow ki draining effect that that Unlock Potential has. So transformation/power up it is effectively infinite on earthlings. This has officially made the Saiyan race, along with practically every other race in the game, worthless in comparison. Man, they really need nerf the Earthling race, if not now, then definitely in Xenoverse 2.

Also, Unlock Potential + "Guess we have to fusion into Vegito" Z-Soul gives a pretty big stat boost.

This is what I have been bitching about the entire time. They go ahead and make balancing changes (which are mostly questionable I might add) to skills and Z-Souls, and yet they have never bothered to work on the races despite knowing how broken some of them are. Making Unlock Potential the way it is just made Earthlings into game breakers now, which is flat out stupid. Either they need to rebalance races (Saiyans and Female Majins really need to be buffed) or not make the same mistake in Xenoverse 2. Wish I could get direct contact with them so I can at least rant about it. Might not get their attention, but at least it would let off some steam.

Saiyans need a buff? With their broken SSJ/SV? Before they buff the Saiyans, they need to nerf SSJ/SV and remove the infinite supers/ultimates.

As for Earthlings need to be nerfed, they need a racial bonus. Their racial bonus is ki recovery. If they remove that, they what else could they possibly give them? They can't leave Earthlings with nothing but balanced stats and the buff when they're at max ki and give other races multiple bonuses. The only change I can see them making is on Unlock Potential, is making it drain ki quicker, which I honestly wouldn't have a problem with.

You apparently need to take a closer look at Saiyans and the SSJ forms. First off, their SSJ forms give shitty boosts so they don't gain that big of an attack boost. They also need to take time out of the offensive to resupply their ki with either charge or drain skills which leaves them open. The nerfing of a lot of Ultimates (especially since the latest patch got rid of all the invincibility frames that some Ultimates had) also makes spamming less effective. Also, there are Z-Souls that can easily make SSJ forms useless. Hell simply waiting the form out can turn the SSJ user's strength into a weakness since they enter guard break state once the form ends. As of right now, SSJ forms are only good for making PQs go faster. In PvP, they're no longer a threat and are at best a nuisance. So yeah, SSJ forms aren't broken. They're cheap yes, but not broken.

As for Saiyans themselves, they have the worst stat distributions and most of their abilities are terrible, useless, or both. Male Saiyans have the highest Basic Attack sure, but their health is only 4th best (right behind Earthlings, who have the 3rd best health) and they have the lowest Strikes and Ki Blast supers in the game. Female Saiyans got this even worse. They have the 2nd highest Strike and Ki Blast stats, but they also have the lowest health and the worst Basic Attack in the game. Their abilities are also terrible/useless. Even when you use SSJ2/SV2 on a female Saiyan they're still beaten by Earthlings in Strike/Ki Blast damage output. Female Majins also have it bad because their health and basic attack are only 5th best while their ki blasts are 3rd best. They also can't take advantage of their racial bonus like Male Majins can.

And you apparently don't get how broken the Earthling's racial ability is. Not only is their auto regen good, but they can stack this with auto regen Z-Souls and give them the ability to recover ki at very fast speeds. Their stats are also the best all around in the game. To suffice...

Male
Health: 3rd (Medium)
Basic Attack: 2nd (High)
Strike Supers: 1st (Highest)
Ki Blast Supers: 4th (Medium)

Female
Health: 3rd (Medium)
Basic Attack: 4th (Medium)
Strike Supers: 4th (Medium)
Ki Blast Supers: 1st (Highest)

They were broken before Unlock Potential became a thing. Now they're game breakers because they get a major power boost and no drain from the transformation. They NEED to be nerfed. Seriously I've done the research and checked out a lot of stat guides/videos other players have made through their research. I know what I'm talking about.

[Xaroc]

As for Super Saiyajins, I think they don't even boost. Quite the opposite. In the new Oozaru Quest, once the Stamina is down, my Level 91 Saiyajin (Ki Supers almost at max) takes away half of their health with one Super Kamehame-Ha. With active "Hmm hmm hmm! Hmm hmm! Hmm!" even 3/4. But once I turn Super Saiyajin it's not even a third. I noticed that on multiple situations. I don't know if it is a bug, but to me it seems like, the Super Saiyajin status resets all values like they're back to Level 1 and Z-Souls just won't work while transformed. Usually I just spam myself through the PQs (it's supposed to be much faster), but now I only transform directly after the last enemy is down, just to get the "Transformed Finish" Message to better up my rank.

[Lord Beerus]

You apparently need to take a closer look at Saiyans and the SSJ forms. First off, their SSJ forms give shitty boosts so they don't gain that big of an attack boost. They also need to take time out of the offensive to resupply their ki with either charge or drain skills which leaves them open. The nerfing of a lot of Ultimates (especially since the latest patch got rid of all the invincibility frames that some Ultimates had) also makes spamming less effective. Also, there are Z-Souls that can easily make SSJ forms useless. Hell simply waiting the form out can turn the SSJ user's strength into a weakness since they enter guard break state once the form ends. As of right now, SSJ forms are only good for making PQs go faster. In PvP, they're no longer a threat and are at best a nuisance. So yeah, SSJ forms aren't broken. They're cheap yes, but not broken.

As for Saiyans themselves, they have the worst stat distributions and most of their abilities are terrible, useless, or both. Male Saiyans have the highest Basic Attack sure, but their health is only 4th best (right behind Earthlings, who have the 3rd best health) and they have the lowest Strikes and Ki Blast supers in the game. Female Saiyans got this even worse. They have the 2nd highest Strike and Ki Blast stats, but they also have the lowest health and the worst Basic Attack in the game. Their abilities are also terrible/useless. Even when you use SSJ2/SV2 on a female Saiyan they're still beaten by Earthlings in Strike/Ki Blast damage output. Female Majins also have it bad because their health and basic attack are only 5th best while their ki blasts are 3rd best. They also can't take advantage of their racial bonus like Male Majins can.

And you apparently don't get how broken the Earthling's racial ability is. Not only is their auto regen good, but they can stack this with auto regen Z-Souls and give them the ability to recover ki at very fast speeds. Their stats are also the best all around in the game. To suffice...

Male
Health: 3rd (Medium)
Basic Attack: 2nd (High)
Strike Supers: 1st (Highest)
Ki Blast Supers: 4th (Medium)

Female
Health: 3rd (Medium)
Basic Attack: 4th (Medium)
Strike Supers: 4th (Medium)
Ki Blast Supers: 1st (Highest)

They were broken before Unlock Potential became a thing. Now they're game breakers because they get a major power boost and no drain from the transformation. They NEED to be nerfed. Seriously I've done the research and checked out a lot of stat guides/videos other players have made through their research. I know what I'm talking about.

I honestly think at this stage that Dimps designing the Earthling race the way they have in Xenoverse was an intentional meta joke for all the years that Earthling race was looked down upon as the muggles of the franchise in the power pecking order. I mean seriously, the Earthling race are so head and shoulders above every other race in-universe in the game, it's not even funny; it's just ironic.

[The Desert Bandit]

Saiyans need a buff? With their broken SSJ/SV? Before they buff the Saiyans, they need to nerf SSJ/SV and remove the infinite supers/ultimates.

As for Earthlings need to be nerfed, they need a racial bonus. Their racial bonus is ki recovery. If they remove that, they what else could they possibly give them? They can't leave Earthlings with nothing but balanced stats and the buff when they're at max ki and give other races multiple bonuses. The only change I can see them making is on Unlock Potential, is making it drain ki quicker, which I honestly wouldn't have a problem with.

You apparently need to take a closer look at Saiyans and the SSJ forms. First off, their SSJ forms give shitty boosts so they don't gain that big of an attack boost. They also need to take time out of the offensive to resupply their ki with either charge or drain skills which leaves them open. The nerfing of a lot of Ultimates (especially since the latest patch got rid of all the invincibility frames that some Ultimates had) also makes spamming less effective. Also, there are Z-Souls that can easily make SSJ forms useless. Hell simply waiting the form out can turn the SSJ user's strength into a weakness since they enter guard break state once the form ends. As of right now, SSJ forms are only good for making PQs go faster. In PvP, they're no longer a threat and are at best a nuisance. So yeah, SSJ forms aren't broken. They're cheap yes, but not broken.

As for Saiyans themselves, they have the worst stat distributions and most of their abilities are terrible, useless, or both. Male Saiyans have the highest Basic Attack sure, but their health is only 4th best (right behind Earthlings, who have the 3rd best health) and they have the lowest Strikes and Ki Blast supers in the game. Female Saiyans got this even worse. They have the 2nd highest Strike and Ki Blast stats, but they also have the lowest health and the worst Basic Attack in the game. Their abilities are also terrible/useless. Even when you use SSJ2/SV2 on a female Saiyan they're still beaten by Earthlings in Strike/Ki Blast damage output. Female Majins also have it bad because their health and basic attack are only 5th best while their ki blasts are 3rd best. They also can't take advantage of their racial bonus like Male Majins can.

And you apparently don't get how broken the Earthling's racial ability is. Not only is their auto regen good, but they can stack this with auto regen Z-Souls and give them the ability to recover ki at very fast speeds. Their stats are also the best all around in the game. To suffice...

Male
Health: 3rd (Medium)
Basic Attack: 2nd (High)
Strike Supers: 1st (Highest)
Ki Blast Supers: 4th (Medium)

Female
Health: 3rd (Medium)
Basic Attack: 4th (Medium)
Strike Supers: 4th (Medium)
Ki Blast Supers: 1st (Highest)

They were broken before Unlock Potential became a thing. Now they're game breakers because they get a major power boost and no drain from the transformation. They NEED to be nerfed. Seriously I've done the research and checked out a lot of stat guides/videos other players have made through their research. I know what I'm talking about.

Meh. Well, I suck at Xenoverse. Your word is god compared to mine anyway. Lol.

Normally, Earthlings are rarely used on the PS3 version. Out of my whole playtime online (Which is since launch, and almost everyday I play), I've only met 5 Earthlings. And two of those Earthlings suck. Idk. I guess us PS3 players are horrible.

And for clarification, this isn't sarcasm. I am dead serious. Maybe they play more competitively on PC, so maybe all the players are far better? :/

[Kamiccolo9]

Earthling Master Race is fantastic. I went with an Earthling female on a whim back on Day 1. Had no idea that would be the best class in the game

[KentalSSJ6]

Rou Kaioshin gave me a piece of Chi-Chi's clothes. I dont know how to feel about that.

[The Desert Bandit]

Looking at a majority of the posts in this thread, I feel very alone in my experiences. I just went through 12 different 3v3 matches, and lost most of my matches because of SSJ/SV spam. They would either spam Blue Hurricane, Emperor's Death Beam, Super Spirit Bomb, Perfect Kamehameha, or Super Galick Gun. And I'm beginning to think its not my lack of skill. I went through more than a dozen teammates who were sick of the spam.

And no one uses Earthlings. That's why I raised my eyebrow at the comments stating that Earthlings are broken. I never meet any, and the ones I have met suffer from spam from Saiyans and end up lose most of the time. My character is an Earthling and I have so much trouble against spamming Saiyans. The only exceptions are in 1v1s. Spam is no issue, and I can fully have fun, since most people in 1v1s don't. If they do spam in 1v1s, then they're easy to deal with. But in team battles, if you're a Saiyan, you're broken.

I'm even starting to think that broken Earthlings and underpowered Saiyans only exist in other versions. If not, then I guess most PS3 players are bad. :/

God, I need to let all that out.

[Zelvin]

I'm even starting to think that broken Earthlings and underpowered Saiyans only exist in other versions. If not, then I guess most PS3 players are bad. :/

God, I need to let all that out.

Oh no it's not that. It's just that you'll find many players are irritable little kids who just like to be dicks to anyone who's not their friend. For instance, I had been in a 3v3 match, only to find no one was joining my side of the team, except one of the Leader's friends, whose sole purpose was to keep reviving me as I was ganged up on by the entire opposing team and killed repeatedly, just so they could try to get as many kills as possible. And they actively used voice chat to belittle whomever they decided was going to be their target.

Of course I did kill 2 members of their team a few times and got them nervous a bit, but at the end of the day, it was basically 4v1 and team revival only nets you like 1/8th your health, and by the time my brief invulnerability from rez was over, they spammed area attacks and ultimates to ensure I was killed instantly. Except when I used that guard move that makes me invincible for a moment. But you get the gist of it.

I can use an Earthling rather effectively and they have pretty good melee damage. And I don't even have Potential Unleashed yet. Also, Blue Whirlwind only really works in PVE against computer opponents. It's rather easy to dodge in PVP and it doesn't last long, plus you're so slow that you can't catch anyone who's running away from you. Only time it really works in PVP is when that person is targeting someone else and can't see you approaching to use it.

I find having someone with high Strike Supers and Blue Whirlwind is the absolute best way to deal with the Great-Ape battles. Since it's annoying trying to hit the right spot to break down their stamina gauge and if you don't hit them in certain places, it does not damage at all. Blue Whirlwind helps in that it hits Every Point on a Great Ape because of their size and the radius of the move. Making it rather easily to rip their stamina shield to shreds and beat them down.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Finally have all the mentors completed, and I'm enjoying Unlock Potential on my Freeza Clansmen. The Elder Kaioshin is a fun mentor though, and as much as I'd like to go back to Jaco, I think the god will be a permanent thing. The RNG boost is just too valuable (though it doesn't always work even with the message) and he hands out some nice items too. The kid Chi Chi clothes are a bit "eh?", but everything else was stuff I didn't have yet.

I can't help but chuckle at all the people who grinded for the items, and then the Kaioshin is just like "Here, have a Halo / Kaio Wings / Z Sword / Angel Wings". I haven't gotten the normal Angel Wings yet, but I'm sure they'll pop up eventually.

[Captain Space]

I can't help but chuckle at all the people who grinded for the items, and then the Kaioshin is just like "Here, have a Halo / Kaio Wings / Z Sword / Angel Wings".

It's like Pan and the Great Saiyaman stuff all over again...

[Saiga]

Finally have all the mentors completed, and I'm enjoying Unlock Potential on my Freeza Clansmen. The Elder Kaioshin is a fun mentor though, and as much as I'd like to go back to Jaco, I think the god will be a permanent thing. The RNG boost is just too valuable (though it doesn't always work even with the message) and he hands out some nice items too. The kid Chi Chi clothes are a bit "eh?", but everything else was stuff I didn't have yet.

I can't help but chuckle at all the people who grinded for the items, and then the Kaioshin is just like "Here, have a Halo / Kaio Wings / Z Sword / Angel Wings". I haven't gotten the normal Angel Wings yet, but I'm sure they'll pop up eventually.

Lucky me, I only had the Kaio Wings and Old Kaioshin gave me all the other three 8D

By the way, what the actual fuck is up with the Kaio wings? I don't remember him being an insect.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

I have been playing this game since late February and I've dedicated countless hours towards it and through all that gaming time not ONCE have I ran into Freeza to request him as my master. I literally cannot find him. I'm convinced that he doesn't exist in my game.

[Captain Space]

By the way, what the actual fuck is up with the Kaio wings? I don't remember him being an insect.

I guess they just took the antenna thing and ran with it.

[MCDaveG]

I have been playing this game since late February and I've dedicated countless hours towards it and through all that gaming time not ONCE have I ran into Freeza to request him as my master. I literally cannot find him. I'm convinced that he doesn't exist in my game.

Same here!

[GoldLiger]

SergioM3 has a new video yesterday(for those who didn't know).

[VegettoEX]

SergioM3 has a new video yesterday(for those who didn't know).

Where is it? What is it about? What did you think of it?

Please provide some context and discussion.

[GoldLiger]

SergioM3 has a new video yesterday(for those who didn't know).

Where is it? What is it about? What did you think of it?

Please provide some context and discussion.

Don't need too since all I have to say is SergioM3 and new video will automatically have ALL the users here go to SergioM3's YT video page and they can see it for themselves. Since most of use here trust SergioM3's datamining skills.

[Kamiccolo9]

SergioM3 has a new video yesterday(for those who didn't know).

Where is it? What is it about? What did you think of it?

Please provide some context and discussion.

Don't need too since all I have to say is SergioM3 and new video will automatically have ALL the users here go to SergioM3's YT video page and they can see it for themselves. Since most of use here trust SergioM3's datamining skills.

I have no idea who this Sergio is. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

So how about taking the 5 seconds of effort to posting a link?

[shadd21]

Anyone knows how to unlock the CC jacket with the cape or the Son Wukong outfit? I've see other players wearing them online but none of the PQs seem to offer them as rewards.