Gotenks is not full-blooded Saiyan. Where would would get that from.TekTheNinja wrote: I'd mind. That would be stupid. Only a full Saiyan is supposed to be able to do that. The only reason Gotenks can is because two half Saiyans make a whole Saiyan.
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The whole idea that Gotenks can go Super Saiyan Three stems from how they are both half Saiyans, so together, they make a full Saiyan. It doesn't make complete sense because they are also both half human, so you'd imagine a fusion still being a half Saiyan, but that's the official reasoning.Dbzfan94 wrote:Gotenks is not full-blooded Saiyan. Where would would get that from.TekTheNinja wrote: I'd mind. That would be stupid. Only a full Saiyan is supposed to be able to do that. The only reason Gotenks can is because two half Saiyans make a whole Saiyan.
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No, it's not official, it's just stuff made up by fans.TekTheNinja wrote:The whole idea that Gotenks can go Super Saiyan Three stems from how they are both half Saiyans, so together, they make a full Saiyan. It doesn't make complete sense because they are also both half human, so you'd imagine a fusion still being a half Saiyan, but that's the official reasoning.Dbzfan94 wrote:Gotenks is not full-blooded Saiyan. Where would would get that from.TekTheNinja wrote: I'd mind. That would be stupid. Only a full Saiyan is supposed to be able to do that. The only reason Gotenks can is because two half Saiyans make a whole Saiyan.
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Also, why would Goku end up good even if his parents were good? Raditz was still an evil bastard after all, and guys like Hitler didn't descend from a bloodline of genocidal tyrants.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Did we read different version of Dragon Ball Minus? Because that's not what I read. Bardock and Gine cared about each other, and their family, but they weren't "good". Bardock still went out and committed mass genocide without a speck of hesitation, and Gine was completely fine with him doing that.sintzu wrote:He changed the reason Goku was sent to earth and gave him lovable parents to show that him becoming a good Saiyan would've happened regardless of him hitting his head to make it more kid friendly.
That doesn't equate to Goku would become the character we know regardless of whether he hit his head or not, it just means he could potentially find a mate he'd care about while he continued to slaughter the rest of Earth's population, just as he tried to do with Gohan the moment he arrived.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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By that logic, they are also half-Earthling, so shouldn't they make a full Earthling after fusing?TekTheNinja wrote:The whole idea that Gotenks can go Super Saiyan Three stems from how they are both half Saiyans, so together, they make a full Saiyan. It doesn't make complete sense because they are also both half human, so you'd imagine a fusion still being a half Saiyan, but that's the official reasoning.Dbzfan94 wrote:Gotenks is not full-blooded Saiyan. Where would would get that from.TekTheNinja wrote: I'd mind. That would be stupid. Only a full Saiyan is supposed to be able to do that. The only reason Gotenks can is because two half Saiyans make a whole Saiyan.
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What "official" reasoning?TekTheNinja wrote:The whole idea that Gotenks can go Super Saiyan Three stems from how they are both half Saiyans, so together, they make a full Saiyan. It doesn't make complete sense because they are also both half human, so you'd imagine a fusion still being a half Saiyan, but that's the official reasoning.Dbzfan94 wrote:Gotenks is not full-blooded Saiyan. Where would would get that from.TekTheNinja wrote: I'd mind. That would be stupid. Only a full Saiyan is supposed to be able to do that. The only reason Gotenks can is because two half Saiyans make a whole Saiyan.
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You know the Dragon Ball community. Official and valid is equivalent to fan reasoning. They probably also think two people which are half a and half b sleeping together results in a 100% a, 100% b child.Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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I'm sorry, could I get a source on that? I don't recall it being said Super Saiyan 3 was exclusive to full-blood Saiyans.TekTheNinja wrote:I'd mind. That would be stupid. Only a full Saiyan is supposed to be able to do that. The only reason Gotenks can is because two half Saiyans make a whole Saiyan.nato25 wrote: Ideally for me he mentions that he killed Babidi and his minions and so Buu remains dormant. Trunks kept up his training so he is still a strong SSJ2, at least on the level of Vegeta when he fights Goku at Majin level. If they give him SSJ3 I won't mind either I guess.
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It could be a good plot for our third movie.sintzu wrote:They wouldn't have brought it up as much as they did if they weren't going to do something later down the line.Chuquita wrote:Visiting Planet Sadla would be so much fun. I've almost lost hope that it'll happen though.
Besides Beerus/Whis, there's nothing that should put a threat to Goku/Vegeta now in Universe 7 anymore.
Unless you bring Freeza again and make him train for 8 months.
Beerus/Whis turn out to be villains again right now, seems too soon.
Have the third movie plot happen in Universe 6 would be the best and most welcome move. There's a lot to explore in a new universe.
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If we're going to visit the Saiyans planet then the last thing we need is an hour or so time limit.FortuneSSJ wrote: It could be a good plot for our third movie.
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The last thing we need is an entire arc about the saiyan race again.sintzu wrote: If we're going to visit the Saiyans planet then the last thing we need is an hour or so time limit.
If they don't botther to do some episodes to cover that in Super, a movie could work and be enough, if it's done right.
We also should know more about Metalman race home planet.
The movie wouldn't take place only in Planet Salad.
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Why? Dragon Ball has never been a documentary of new places.sintzu wrote:If we're going to visit the Saiyans planet then the last thing we need is an hour or so time limit.FortuneSSJ wrote: It could be a good plot for our third movie.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Trying to tell that kind of story in an hour would be like trying to tell the Namek arc in an hour, so much great content would have to be left out.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Why? Dragon Ball has never been a documentary of new places.
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What was so great & detailed about Planet Namek itself that required a whole arc? It was just a big green planet with a few villages that were almost wiped out since the beginning and that's it. There are many reasons that the Namek arc wouldn't work as a movie, but its world building is not one of them.sintzu wrote:Trying to tell that kind of story in an hour would be like trying to tell the Namek arc in an hour, so much great content would have to be left out.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Why? Dragon Ball has never been a documentary of new places.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I'm talking about the arc, not the planet.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What was so great & detailed about Planet Namek itself that required a whole arc ?
I said Namek because that's where the events took place, the same thing would apply to the android/cell arc, there's too much content to turn it into one movie.
If we're going to get an arc about U6's Saiyan planet then I want it to be a long arc with a lot going on, like the Namek/Freeza arc.
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There is no reason to go to planet Sadal so what is so exciting about it, all we will see is more Saiyans and them just living normally. I would prefer to go to places for a reason, I would rather go to universe 6 earth than planet Sadal anyway.
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Can't the same argument be used against your suggestion? They haven't a real reason to visit either! There's nothing wrong with exploring different environments of the Dragon World. As for the excitement factor, we'd just have to see how the writers would handle it.namekiansaiyan wrote:There is no reason to go to planet Sadal so what is so exciting about it, all we will see is more Saiyans and them just living normally. I would prefer to go to places for a reason, I would rather go to universe 6 earth than planet Sadal anyway.
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Didn't U6 Earth get revived to be precisely the same as U7 Earth anyhow? If that's the case, there's no point in visiting it.
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Nejishiki wrote:Can't the same argument be used against your suggestion? They haven't a real reason to visit either! There's nothing wrong with exploring different environments of the Dragon World. As for the excitement factor, we'd just have to see how the writers would handle it.namekiansaiyan wrote:There is no reason to go to planet Sadal so what is so exciting about it, all we will see is more Saiyans and them just living normally. I would prefer to go to places for a reason, I would rather go to universe 6 earth than planet Sadal anyway.
I want to see what Planet Sadla's King is like. Cabba teasing about him made left me so curious.
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I mean if we had to choose to go to a random planet I would choose universe 6 Earth to see who is actually there as we know nothing about it whereas we know planet Sadal is full of Saiyans.Nejishiki wrote:Can't the same argument be used against your suggestion? They haven't a real reason to visit either! There's nothing wrong with exploring different environments of the Dragon World. As for the excitement factor, we'd just have to see how the writers would handle it.namekiansaiyan wrote:There is no reason to go to planet Sadal so what is so exciting about it, all we will see is more Saiyans and them just living normally. I would prefer to go to places for a reason, I would rather go to universe 6 earth than planet Sadal anyway.