The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I think "Scarface" and "Shorty" refer to the two Saiyans who show up in the filler episode(s) where Kami sends Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu into that weird past-illusion-room thing to show them how strong the Saiyans are.

I have no idea if they have actual names or not, though. I know I've seen one of them called "Onion" or something like that somewhere before, but I think that might've been when their designs were reused as random enemies in one of the old NES RPGs...

They are called Onion & Brock in a NES video game, Scarface & Shorty are FUNi names... So, I go with the NES names, since they also sound like Saiyan names.

[dbgtFO]

I'm not sure if this was done, and I'm not sure what the majority believes on how the two compare, but here's one:

Monster Zarbon Vs Vegeta (2nd Battle)

Basically a replay of their fight, only this time Vegeta doesn't get the cheap attack on Zarbon this time. I've seen some people say they believe their powers are very close, and that Vegeta only won because of his cheap attack which weakened Zarbon--with others believing Vegeta is clearly the superior warrior, sneak attacks or not. Just want to see the consensus here.

Yeah, I see Zarbon as either Vegeta's equal or superior going by power alone, which is why I think Vegeta avoided the head-on fight initially. I do think Vegeta's perception of ki movement should give him an advantage over Zarbon, like Kaboom pointed out. But in a direct battle, while I still see him winning one way or another, it could have cost him a good amount of ki, which might have been another consideration for his cheap tricks in the original story.

[Silkman3003]

SSj2 Kid Gohan, Super Perfect Cell and Lssj Broly(Movie 10) vs Initial Fat Buu.

By Initial, I mean the Fatbuu that
1. Stomped Ssj2 Teen Gohan in a few hits
2. Beat up Supreme Kai
3. Stomped Dabura
4. Was getting beaten by Majin Vegeta(before Buu decided to use more power)

And yes, this is assuming Gohan was Ssj2 against Fatbuu, and Ssj2 against Broly. Fat Buu can't get any stronger in this one, so he's stuck at his suppressed state.


Can the trio hope to kill a suppressed Fat Buu? Or will Fatbuu's regeneration prove to be too much for all three of them?

[Perfect]

I'm sure they could trick Buu and combine some sort of mega, super, ultra, death-ray to win. Though granted, I don't see them teaming up in any situation... At least not all three...

[Saiga]

Boo turns them to chocolate. Om nom nom.

[Kaboom]

Any or all 3 of them might give Boo trouble power-wise, but they're not nearly strong enough to overcome his regeneration. Plus, like Saiga said, if all else fails Boo can turn them into chocolate. Broly would probably run into the transform beam headfirst.

[dario03]

I would give buu the edge because of his candy beam, absorbtion (unless the can't get any stronger rule stops him from using that), and regen but I could see some scenarios where the team could win, especially if they know about those abilities.

[dprez]

Boo would be able to take at least one out with his candy beam before being somehow wiped out by there triple team onslaught. Most likely Broly since he would just blindly rush in with his guard completely down.

With one down, I don't think two ssj2 level fighters are enough to utterly wipe out boo. Especially since Boo was completely unfazed by Vegetas attacks, and Gohan, and especially Cell, aren't at that level.

They would have to launch their full power ki attacks all at once in order to wipe out boo completely, and I don't see Broly being capable of that kind of teamwork. I think he's turned to candy and eaten and the other two struggle to attempt killing boo until they are also taken out.

[Fox666]

and I don't see Broly being capable of that kind of teamwork

He probably would attack his own allies...

[Hellspawn28]

Buu was strong enough to stand up against Majin Vegeta, Majin Vegeta would beat Super Pefect Cell and Movie 10 Broly with very little effort. I think one or two blast from Buu could take out the whole team.

[dprez]

and I don't see Broly being capable of that kind of teamwork

He probably would attack his own allies...

Yea seriously.

While looking at Gohan......Kakarotto!!!!!

[Saiga]

and I don't see Broly being capable of that kind of teamwork

He probably would attack his own allies...

Yea seriously.

While looking at Gohan......Kakarotto!!!!!

Can Broli sense ki? If so... look out, Cell!

[FNF]

Majin Vegeta would beat Movie 10 Broly with very little effort.

I don't see the logic in this personally. The Broly movies' producer states that Broly was set up as the strongest Saiyan when talking about his appearance in movie 10. He should probably be a decent amount stronger than SSjin2 Kid Gohan from an in/out of universe perspective. That means he should be somewhat stronger than SSjin2 Goku/Prince of Destruction Vegeta considering they were only somewhat stronger than SSjin2 Kid Gohan.

[Rocketman]

On the other hand, they're producing a Broly movie, and Broly is literally the worst thing ever.

[FNF]

I'm not saying Broly's a good character or anything (duh). However it's not a valid reason to nerf a character. It's like a Gohan hater saying, 'Gohan sux, dat m3anz he are the weakest-est'.


something about this reminds me of the 'Vegetto is omnipotent compared to even GT characters derp" shit. j/s

[dprez]

Can Broli sense ki? If so... look out, Cell!

haha true. Gohan could beat Broly but Cell, I'm not so sure.

I've come to respect Broly's power for what is was in movie 10. Gohan was indeed ssj2 in movie 10....finally agreed with this after I saw those Toriyama character designs for movie ten, clearly showing Gohan in base, then ssj, and then ssj2.

[Silkman3003]

and I don't see Broly being capable of that kind of teamwork

He probably would attack his own allies...

I wont say anything about Team work(for the sake of this topic, he has his Movie 8 personality, but movie 10 strength. And I outlined the difference because Broly in movie 10 only says a few lines).

But i'll just say that he wont attack his team mates(since buu is a bigger threat). Whether you think he'll cooperate with his team mates and think of strategies is a different story.

[FNF]

I've come to respect Broly's power for what is was in movie 10. Gohan was indeed ssj2 in movie 10....finally agreed with this after I saw those Toriyama character designs for movie ten, clearly showing Gohan in base, then ssj, and then ssj2.

Exactly. You'll get people like DragonballFights from youtube who try to nerf Broly to the absolute minimum just out of pure bias. No matter how much of a bad character Broly is, he is still damn strong.

TBH I actually liked Broly in movie 8 to an extent because his sadistic side was conveyed a lot better but Toei just milked the character and turned him into a joke.

[dprez]

I've come to respect Broly's power for what is was in movie 10. Gohan was indeed ssj2 in movie 10....finally agreed with this after I saw those Toriyama character designs for movie ten, clearly showing Gohan in base, then ssj, and then ssj2.

Exactly. You'll get people like DragonballFights from youtube who try to nerf Broly to the absolute minimum just out of pure bias. No matter how much of a bad character Broly is, he is still damn strong.

TBH I actually liked Broly in movie 8 to an extent because his sadistic side was conveyed a lot better but Toei just milked the character and turned him into a joke.

I used to be a bit of a Broly hater. Still knowing he was strong as crap, I could never see him at a level like ssj2, since it takes such incredible amount of training and mastery of the original ssj form to achieve.

But this is Broly we are talking about, a literal freak of nature. The dude's Lssj form is unlike anything Goku Vegeta and the rest could ever hope to achieve, simply because it is exclusive to the kind of saiya-jin Broly is.

Born with ridiculous strength even for saiya-jins, his power grows at an exponential level for pretty much no reason, other than the fact that he was born with the potential to have unheard of strength, easily rivaling ascended saiya-jins like Ssj2 Son Goku and Vegeta in the boo arc.

I agree with you that movie 8 Broly, when he was sane and normal, similar to how Desirecampbell portrays him in AF (before his memories fuck with him ), he is pretty cool.

[Saiga]

I respect Broli's strength now, and think that being at the same level as a Super Saiyan 2 would be good. I like movie 8 and movie 10, actually.