Why do you dislike BoG?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Makaioshins are bad guys, you know that right? Dabura is likely a Makaioshin.

Um yeah, but what does that have to do Whis potentially being one? During pre-movie speculation, we had no idea that Whis would turn out the way he did in terms of personality.

Oh, and I'm sure Toriyama hadn't even thought of Makaioshin at the time of making Dabura, but then again he hadn't thought of the Saiyans when he made Goku either.

Iv'e seen the ending to this movie and nothing implies he's a bad dude. Besides he doesn't look evil, Dabura does.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Makaioshins are bad guys, you know that right? Dabura is likely a Makaioshin.

Um yeah, but what does that have to do Whis potentially being one? During pre-movie speculation, we had no idea that Whis would turn out the way he did in terms of personality.

Oh, and I'm sure Toriyama hadn't even thought of Makaioshin at the time of making Dabura, but then again he hadn't thought of the Saiyans when he made Goku either.

Iv'e seen the ending to this movie and nothing implies he's a bad dude. Besides he doesn't look evil, Dabura does.

I was referring to pre-movie speculation.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I was referring to pre-movie speculation.

I sure as heck didn't peg him as a Makaioshin during the pre-speculation.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

I was referring to pre-movie speculation.

I sure as heck didn't peg him as a Makaioshin during the pre-speculation.

Eh, it was the tree that did it. If he wasn't a Makaioshin I was sure he was gonna have some sort of important role, rather than just the one chop at the end.

[TheMightyOzaru]

He is Beers' master, I'd say he's important. He might get a bigger role in sequel....?

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

He is Beers' master, I'd say he's important. He might get a bigger role in sequel....?

Yeah, I'm hoping for that.

It's just that I don't think his role warrants the importance that the poster gives him. It'd be like making a poster for the Saiyan arc and having Kaio descending from the heavens in the background.

[DBZ Mick]

I don't know where all this hate suddenly sprung from...?

[TheMightyOzaru]

I don't know where all this hate suddenly sprung from...?

Neither do I. I mostly only see it from 3 people though, hleV, Saiga, and Rocketman.

[RandomGuy96]

They tend to have common complaints.

I think that the biggest someone might hate this movie is because the main the hero is Goku again. Just like all the other films he always has to be shoe horned into the main role. It's getting really, really tiring. Stories set after the Buu Saga are the absolute worst about this.

[Scarz]

I haven't seen the film so there's not really much I dislike about it yet. My only compliant is that I really wish that Whis was a woman. I remember the first movie poster was leaked and everyone thought the figure in the background was some sort of female Makaioshin (or something like that). I was seriously disappointed to find out that it was yet another powerful male fighter.

[Vice]

They tend to have common complaints.

I think that the biggest someone might hate this movie is because the main the hero is Goku again. Just like all the other films he always has to be shoe horned into the main role. It's getting really, really tiring. Stories set after the Buu Saga are the absolute worst about this.

Uh, what's the alternative? Gohan? Been there, done that. Didn't really work out. Goten/Trunks? Pretty sure nobody wants that. Vegeta/Piccolo? Yeah, that ain't happening.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Another thing is the animation. It's like, "Really? This is what they're going with for DB's big new blockbuster that's supposedly going to rejuvenate the series?" It's not bad, but they could've done a lot better.

[TheMightyOzaru]

When has DBZ ever been about the animation, lets be honest here. @Vice, I still believe Gohan should have been the hero at the end of the day. Yeah let Goku and Vegeta be revived and all but I think Pure Buu should have been much stronger than Goku or Vegeta imagined and they should have brought Gohan and Gotenks over to finish the job. It would symbolize a sort of passing the torch on to their sons.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

When has DBZ ever been about the animation, lets be honest here.

No Anime show is about the animation, but nice animation certainly adds to the appeal. Especially if it's a blockbuster movie being played on IMAX.

[TheMightyOzaru]

When has DBZ ever been about the animation, lets be honest here.

No Anime show is about the animation, but nice animation certainly adds to the appeal. Especially if it's a blockbuster movie being played on IMAX.

Yeah but DBZ has always had poor animation. This is pretty high grade animation for DBZ. Besides I personally couldn't care less whether the animation is a little lazy in some spots. As long as the movie is good, I'm fine.

[B]

The complaint that "no one gets to do anything but Goku" has never made any sense to me, as it seems everyone's definition of "getting to do something" is "defeat the antagonist." Which just isn't happening and it's weird people don't get that.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Yeah but DBZ has always had poor animation. This is pretty high grade animation for DBZ. Besides I personally couldn't care less whether the animation is a little lazy in some spots. As long as the movie is good, I'm fine.

The animation (throughout all three series) was inconsistent. In some places, it was really good (for its time), and in others, horribly bad. I'm not saying the animation isn't an improvement over what they were putting out in the 90s, but by today's standards, I feel they could've done better

[Vice]

Yeah but DBZ has always had poor animation. This is pretty high grade animation for DBZ. Besides I personally couldn't care less whether the animation is a little lazy in some spots. As long as the movie is good, I'm fine.

Not really. Aside from triangle guy and Uchiyama, DBZ had some great animated moments. Maeda, Yamamuro, Hisada and Masunaga episodes were fantastic.

[goku the krump dancer]

He is the main character though. Going by what some of you said Movies 9, 10 and 11 must be your favorite of the bunch because Goku isn't the guy who beats the main villain. Whats wrong with Goku being the hero during and post Boo saga? First people complain that he steals the spot then He himself tries to past the torch TWICE but both candidates ended up falling short in some way shape of form but thats just the "In Universe" way of looking at it.

[RandomGuy96]

He is the main character though. Going by what some of you said Movies 9, 10 and 11 must be your favorite of the bunch because Goku isn't the guy who beats the main villain.

He is, actually. Yep, someone couldn't handle the new generation doing stuff, so they had to have Goku hold their hands from the dead.