Your personal canon for Dragon Ball

[irreality]

Misspellings aside, headcanon does not mean what you people think it means. It doesn't mean "my personal continuity/edited canon". It simply means a fan speculation you hold. If a headcanon is widely held, it is considered fanon.

Anyway, carry on. Sorry, I seem to be turning every thread into a terminology discussion.

[rereboy]

Misspellings aside, headcanon does not mean what you people think it means. It doesn't mean "my personal continuity/edited canon". It simply means a fan speculation you hold. If a headcanon is widely held, it is considered fanon.

Anyway, carry on. Sorry, I seem to be turning every thread into a terminology discussion.

Headcanon is usually pretty personal and thus, many times, includes things that even the fan in question knows that shouldn't be considered on the same level as others, and yet the fan still does.

For example, a fan reads a fanfiction about the relationship of Vegeta and Bulma between the Cell arc and Buu arc. He likes it so much that he basically adopts those events as his headcanon regarding those two in that period of time. That would never be considered on the same level as anything else in the franchise in a serious debate regarding official canon or the fan's expectations for canon because it's just fanfiction, but, since headcanon is exclusively personal and the fan basically includes and excludes WHATEVER he wants, that doesn't matter.

On the other hand, while we could say that fanon could refer to that same fanfiction, fanon usually refers to just the ideas that aren't present in the official works, making it a term to refer to fan-made things that a fan might want to put on the same level as the official stuff, and it doesn't specify if it's just a personal view or something more widely agreed.

Headcanon includes whatever the fan wants, from both official and non-official and it's exclusively personal by defnition. So, I disagree that it's exactly the same thing.

[irreality]

Isn't that what I just said about headcanon?

Fanon is a more specific term, though: it is a fan held theory that is reused among different fan works -- nobody considers it canon, though, or on that level, it is just an idea that had subsumed among fans as convention. For a long time, "Bunny" was considered Bulma's mom "fanon" name (which I never liked, since it is not an underwear pun, and am much happier with Panty). There were other fanfiction tropes that became fanon, as well for a while -- some were pretty outlandish.

In any case, neither means the continuity of a series, which is what I was trying to say.

[rereboy]

Isn't that what I just said about headcanon?

Not really, no.

Headcanon ends up being a way of saying "my exclusively, personal, unapproved view of continuity of events regarding this franchise" while fanon ends up being a way a saying "the fan-created works that I or we want to put in a higher status".

I can say "my fanon is this" and then point out the numerous fan-made creations that I want to put in a higher status, and I can also say "the common fanon for this franchise is this" and then point the numerous fan-made creations that most fans want to put in a higher status.

However, when I say "my headcanon is this", I'm pointing towards a continuity that includes the official canon works plus whatever else I want to put beside them, namely whatever fan creations I want to put there, and there's no doubt that an exclusively personal view of mine.

Fanon follows opposite of canon, by just referring to the fan created works that we want to single out and put in higher status and not referring to actual canon. Headcanon, on the other hand, actually mixes everything and whatever the fan wants into a continuity which, without a doubt, is exclusively personal.

[sintzu]

Bardock the father Of Goku.
Db episodes 1-153.
Db Kai episodes 1-54.
The history of Trunks
Db Kai episodes 55-164
Db Super episodes 1-???

Whatever Toriyama says in interviews that doesn't contradict the above in a big way.

[Kuririn Fan]

519 chapters of the manga + anime without contradicting filler + bardock/trunks specials & 2008 special + Super

[Hero]

For me it's:

Bardock: Father of Goku
Dragon Ball anime
Dragon Ball Z anime (+ History of Trunks special)
Battle of Gods movie
Resurrection F movie
???
EoZ


As of right now the ??? consists of the Universe 6 arc of Super that's about to come but I assume more will be added as Super continues.

[Soppa Saia People]

Misspellings aside, headcanon does not mean what you people think it means. It doesn't mean "my personal continuity/edited canon". It simply means a fan speculation you hold. If a headcanon is widely held, it is considered fanon.

Anyway, carry on. Sorry, I seem to be turning every thread into a terminology discussion.

It's fine and thank you for teaching me what head canon means (and I can't believe I spelt it wrong )

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Since I don't like saying headcanon, I'll just say that this is what I think is canon.

Bardock: The Father of Goku
Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z Kai
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (Episodes 1-67)
Yo! Son Goku and his friends return!
Battle of Gods saga in Super/Battle of Gods
Resurrection F saga in Super/Resurrection F
The rest of Super (meaning whatever sagas happen from after the F saga all the way to the end of the series)
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (Episodes 68 and 69)

[Kuririn Fan]

Since I don't like saying headcanon, I'll just say that this is what I think is canon.

Bardock: The Father of Goku
Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z Kai
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (Episodes 1-67)
Yo! Son Goku and his friends return!
Battle of Gods saga in Super/Battle of Gods
Resurrection F saga in Super/Resurrection F
The rest of Super (meaning whatever sagas happen from after the F saga all the way to the end of the series)
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (Episodes 68 and 69)

Add History of Trunks there and it is pretty much perfect.

[Son Edo]

Person says there is no canon in Dragon Ball, Someone uses a filler scene as an example in a debate, same person says that was filler so it doesn't count.

[Khin]

Jaco the Galactic Partrolman and Dragon Ball Minus
All Guidebooks and Interviews by Akira Toriyama
Dragon Ball(Manga)
Dragon Ball Kai
Dragon Ball Super

And i consider all of the Dragon Ball Movies,GT and fillers that are not in Kai as alternate timelines created by Future Trunks.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Since I don't like saying headcanon, I'll just say that this is what I think is canon.

Bardock: The Father of Goku
Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z Kai
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (Episodes 1-67)
Yo! Son Goku and his friends return!
Battle of Gods saga in Super/Battle of Gods
Resurrection F saga in Super/Resurrection F
The rest of Super (meaning whatever sagas happen from after the F saga all the way to the end of the series)
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters (Episodes 68 and 69)

Add History of Trunks there and it is pretty much perfect.

The only problem is that I don't know where exactly to put it. Would it be right before the Trunks saga in Kai?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

-Dragon Ball Minus.... just kidding Bardock special
- Main Jaco story
- DB anime
- DB Kai 1.0- inc. Trunks special
- DBZ (Buu arc) quite enjoy the fillers here compared to the other Z arcs.
- Yo! Goku and Pals Returns for this special!
- Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods
- Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection "F"
- Dragon Ball Super: Universe 6 arc
- EoZ time placement.

[Detective X]

I think it's a little ridiculous to try to follow Dragon Ball as strictly one continuity. Usually I break it down into two separate versions of the series in my... uh... head canon?

Canon-A (Mangaverse): Jaco: The Galactic Patrolman -> Dragon Ball (vol. 1-42) -> Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return -> Battle of Gods -> Resurrection 'F'

Canon-B (Animeverse): Bardock Special -> Dragon Ball -> Dragon Ball Z/Kai (including the Trunks special, movies 9 and 13 where appropriate) -> Dragon Ball Super

I think GT is fun at parts, and it certainly is a thing that exists, but I generally don't think much about it or care to consider it. Super Saiyan 4 Goku looks pretty cool, I guess?

As for the "End of Z", as many people have specified in their lists, I could take it or leave it. There's so much up in the air right now with both the movies and Super that I wouldn't be upset if we see some sort of retcon take place. That ending always left me feeling a little empty.

[Soccerjam]

Bardock the Father of Goku
Dragon Ball(Emperor Pilaf to Piccolo Sagas)
Dead Zone
Saiyan Saga
Namek Saga
Frieza Saga
Garlic Jr. Saga
The History of Trunks
Trunks Saga
Cooler's Revenge
Return of Cooler
Android Saga
Imperfect Cell Saga
Perfect Cell Saga
Broly the Legendary Super Saiyan
The Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans
Cell Games Saga
Bojack Unbound
Great Saiyaman Saga
World Tournament Saga (Broly: Second Coming)
Babidi Saga
Majin Buu Saga (Bio Broly)
Fusion Saga
Kid Buu Saga
Wrath of the Dragon
Goku and Friends Return
Battle of Gods
Resurrection F
Black Star Dragon Balls Saga
Baby Saga
Super Android 17 Saga
Shadow Dragon Saga
A Hero's Legacy
Until We Meet Again
THE END

[GTX]

I don't think you should put a filler as canon in anything because filler even in anime itself mostly contradicting its own anime than not .

[AS_Saiyan]

I see it as 3 differnt "cannon", a Manga Cannon, which is only the manga writen by Toriyama, an Anime Cannon which includes the meterials that are closer to Troiyama's original product (DBZKai) and meterials that were created by him (YSGAFR, DBSuper), and a Toei Cannon which includes Toei's orginal products (DBGT) and the 3 movies that could fit into that timeline. The thing that are not included here, are the ones that I REALLY consider non-cannon.

Manga Cannon
Dragonball manga vol. 1-42
Jaco The Galactic Patrolman
Dragon Ball Minus

Anime Cannon
Dragon Ball anime
Dragon Ball Z Kai anime
History of Trunks
Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return
Dragon Ball Super/BoG movie+RF movie+U6 arc

Toei Cannon
Dragon Ball anime
Dragon Ball Z anime
Bardock: Father of Goku
History of Trunks
Movies 1,9,13
Dragon Ball GT
A Hero's Legecy

[ssjjanemba]

Anything that is written by Akira Toriyama.

[TheUltimateVegito]

I think that this may be of some use here:

The nice thing about headcannnons is that it's really easy to get other people to believe in them.

Glorious.