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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:40 pm

FoolsGil wrote:Goku should be running. He's fighting in Buu's head, and he has a finite amount of energy that he's blowing through as a SSJ3. There's other pods, other things he should do and try, instead of failing everyone. You know, again.
Agreed. If he defeats this copy of Buu, another one will just forms from the surrounding "material" :?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:49 pm

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coola wrote: Pretty good so far, from what i understand, Super Buu is on par with Fat But (with evil essence) non-SSJ Vegeta sholdnt make Super Buu that much stronger.
Its stated directly in the manga that Super Buu is much stronger than Fat Buu (with evil essence).

Also, Goku expected Gotenks to be able to beat Fat Buu but he never expected Gotenks to reach SSJ3. Which puts SSJ3 Gotenks at a much higher level than Fat Buu. And yet he was only slightly stronger than Super Buu.

Goku really shouldn't be able to hold his own against Super Buu or Buugeta.
Yes, i just checked, and you are right about Super Buu power, still, Buu might just toy with Goku, thinking he have situation under control, now that he moved Goku away from his head and absorbed Vegeta. That's stupid and he shouldn''t do that and finisz his opponent right away? Dragon Ball logic :wink:
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Triforce Master » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:16 pm

I'm more curious to see if this special simply ends with Goku getting absorbed or will we see Super Buu go out and kill the Kaioushins.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:25 pm

It's kind of funny. SO many bad decisions were made in the Buu Saga. Makes me think that U18 and U16 diverged from Buu winning instead of the other way around.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by mAcChaos » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:04 pm

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coola wrote: Pretty good so far, from what i understand, Super Buu is on par with Fat But (with evil essence) non-SSJ Vegeta sholdnt make Super Buu that much stronger.
Its stated directly in the manga that Super Buu is much stronger than Fat Buu (with evil essence).

Also, Goku expected Gotenks to be able to beat Fat Buu but he never expected Gotenks to reach SSJ3. Which puts SSJ3 Gotenks at a much higher level than Fat Buu. And yet he was only slightly stronger than Super Buu.

Goku really shouldn't be able to hold his own against Super Buu or Buugeta.
I wouldn't say that Super Buu is stronger than Fat Buu with his evil. It's just that Fat Buu never actually digs deep into that power unless he's mad, while Super Buu is running on all cylinders.

But just having an increase in intelligence here is a big deal too.
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Post by Fionordequester » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:36 pm

FoolsGil wrote:Goku should be running. He's fighting in Buu's head, and he has a finite amount of energy that he's blowing through as a SSJ3. There's other pods, other things he should do and try, instead of failing everyone. You know, again.
Wasn't that addressed last page, with Goku saying that he couldn't sense where the pods were, or blow through the walls?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by mAcChaos » Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:06 am

He is doomed. He can't run and he can't win. All he can do is go down fighting, so Buu can hang his head like a trophy on the wall.
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Post by FoolsGil » Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:43 am

Fionordequester wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:Goku should be running. He's fighting in Buu's head, and he has a finite amount of energy that he's blowing through as a SSJ3. There's other pods, other things he should do and try, instead of failing everyone. You know, again.
Wasn't that addressed last page, with Goku saying that he couldn't sense where the pods were, or blow through the walls?
Gee it doesn't say he can't fly or try to find them, like I said. Anything is better than fighting a losing battle, which he is doing.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:39 am

mAcChaos wrote: I wouldn't say that Super Buu is stronger than Fat Buu with his evil.
As mentioned, he was stated in the manga to be.

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Post by dalome » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:33 am

Piccolo said everythings about super buu was greater.
He said It to Trunks and Goten.

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Post by mAcChaos » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:43 am

rereboy wrote:
mAcChaos wrote: I wouldn't say that Super Buu is stronger than Fat Buu with his evil.
As mentioned, he was stated in the manga to be.
They didn't know how Fat Buu worked. They were talking about how much power he had displayed so far; we never saw him max out. But we've reasoned out the implications before.

It's true that his fighting physique was better though.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:29 am

FoolsGil wrote:It's kind of funny. SO many bad decisions were made in the Buu Saga. Makes me think that U18 and U16 diverged from Buu winning instead of the other way around.
u18 is the regular Z timeline, and u16 is the same except Vegettp never unfused and kills Buu that way.

I think this universe (where Buu wins) is U8

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Post by Vegitofaxx » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:17 am

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FoolsGil wrote:It's kind of funny. SO many bad decisions were made in the Buu Saga. Makes me think that U18 and U16 diverged from Buu winning instead of the other way around.
u18 is the regular Z timeline, and u16 is the same except Vegettp never unfused and kills Buu that way.

I think this universe (where Buu wins) is U8
Its U4
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Vegitofaxx » Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:42 pm

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Oh yeah Super Buu with Vegeta absorbed just like in Budokai 2 and 3 IIRC.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:51 pm

mAcChaos wrote: They didn't know how Fat Buu worked. They were talking about how much power he had displayed so far; we never saw him max out. But we've reasoned out the implications before.

It's true that his fighting physique was better though.
You're rationalizing things to fit what you prefer. Piccolo's statement was expositional. He stated that Super Buu was stronger in every aspect and he stated that to the benefit of the reader, so that the reader knows that.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:59 pm

rereboy: I think Buu is just toying with Goku at this point, he heave situation under control, plus, almost every character in DB like to toy with their opponent :)
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by mAcChaos » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:48 am

rereboy wrote:
mAcChaos wrote: They didn't know how Fat Buu worked. They were talking about how much power he had displayed so far; we never saw him max out. But we've reasoned out the implications before.

It's true that his fighting physique was better though.
You're rationalizing things to fit what you prefer. Piccolo's statement was expositional. He stated that Super Buu was stronger in every aspect and he stated that to the benefit of the reader, so that the reader knows that.
Do you think SPC could blow away the solar system with his kamehameha?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:05 am

mAcChaos wrote: Do you think SPC could blow away the solar system with his kamehameha?
Of course. It was also expositional to give a sense of scale to the reader and never contradicted.

If you are worried about how that would work in-universe, remember that Cell only had to direct his Kamehameha to the sun to effectively destroy the solar system (kind of like Freeza destroying Namek's core and Namek still being destroyed).

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Post by dbgtFO » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:45 am

Vegitofaxx wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Oh yeah Super Buu with Vegeta absorbed just like in Budokai 2 and 3 IIRC.
Do you read the danish version of DBM, or just the english?
I just read the English version.

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Post by coola » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:59 pm

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