Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[rereboy]

The original series is what introduced the idea that it was an ineffective form to use while living/in the living world, though. Of course, they could have made it so that Goku had managed to somehow master it while living, but they seem to be favoring a new power-up instead of SSJ3.

[Saiga]

The original series is what introduced the idea that it was an ineffective form to use while living/in the living world, though. Of course, they could have made it so that Goku had managed to somehow master it while living, but they seem to be favoring a new power-up instead of SSJ3.

I'm aware of that. But the original series also made it absolutely vital for Goku and Gotenks to be relevant.

I don't really feel that from Multiverse. I feel it has downplayed the usefulness of the form and upplayed the drawbacks.

[rereboy]

I'm aware of that. But the original series also made it absolutely vital for Goku and Gotenks to be relevant.

I don't really feel that from Multiverse. I feel it has downplayed the usefulness of the form and upplayed the drawbacks.

I agree that they have downplayed the usefulness of the form and upplayed the drawbacks, but that is to empathize the need of an alternative form/power-up that they will eventually introduce. That is normal for Dragon Ball, the previous form or technique that made the fighters relevant or the strongest, is suddenly not enough or has too many drawbacks to face the new situations, so the fighters evolve further. We see it with basic SSJ, which leads to MSSJ, for example.

[BlazingBarrrager]

I'm aware of that. But the original series also made it absolutely vital for Goku and Gotenks to be relevant.

I don't really feel that from Multiverse. I feel it has downplayed the usefulness of the form and upplayed the drawbacks.

I agree that they have downplayed the usefulness of the form and upplayed the drawbacks, but that is to empathize the need of an alternative form/power-up that they will eventually introduce. That is normal for Dragon Ball, the previous form or technique that made the fighters relevant or the strongest, is suddenly not enough or has too many drawbacks to face the new situations, so the fighters evolve further. We see it with basic SSJ, which leads to MSSJ, for example.

I can agree with that, but it still annoys me nonetheless. I mean if my Saiyan girl was somehow in this story SSJ3 would be nearly useless to her considering she can only hold it for 2 to 3 minutes due to the strain it puts on the body.

[rereboy]

I can agree with that, but it still annoys me nonetheless. I mean if my Saiyan girl was somehow in this story SSJ3 would be nearly useless to her considering she can only hold it for 2 to 3 minutes due to the strain it puts on the body.

Don't forget that SSJ3 has been going out so quickly in DBM only when it's used by characters who are very strong because, according to DBM, the stronger the fighter, the less time it takes for it to give out (or when the fighter is seriously injured and exhausted, or when he is rapidly aging).

So, if your Saiyan girl was as strong as Goku was when he fought Kid Buu, it would last as long as it lasted for Goku at that time, according to DBM.

[BlazingBarrrager]

I can agree with that, but it still annoys me nonetheless. I mean if my Saiyan girl was somehow in this story SSJ3 would be nearly useless to her considering she can only hold it for 2 to 3 minutes due to the strain it puts on the body.

Don't forget that SSJ3 has been going out so quickly in DBM only when it's used by characters who are very strong because, according to DBM, the stronger the fighter, the less time it takes for it to give out (or when the fighter is seriously injured and exhausted, or when he is rapidly aging).

So, if your Saiyan girl was as strong as Goku was when he fought Kid Buu, it would last as long as it lasted for Goku at that time, according to DBM.

Funny thing is my Saiyan girl is weaker than Goku so, according to DBM, she would be able to hold slightly longer than Goku. Of course I find this to be complete BS because DBM disregards the physical strain the form puts on the body.

Spoiler:

You might not be able to completely tell in this pic, but her body isn't built to handle much since she focuses heavily on speed. Malik_DBNA actually pointed this out when I talked to him and I completely agree. That's one of the reasons why I'm not fond on how DBM's author handles details.

[rereboy]

Funny thing is my Saiyan girl is weaker than Goku so, according to DBM, she would be able to hold slightly longer than Goku. Of course I find this to be complete BS because DBM disregards the physical strain the form puts on the body.

Spoiler:

You might not be able to completely tell in this pic, but her body isn't built to handle much since she focuses heavily on speed. Malik_DBNA actually pointed this out when I talked to him and I completely agree. That's one of the reasons why I'm not fond on how DBM's author handles details.

Actually, I think the justification is precisely because it puts strain on the body that, the bigger the power, the bigger the strain, the less it lasts.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Funny thing is my Saiyan girl is weaker than Goku so, according to DBM, she would be able to hold slightly longer than Goku. Of course I find this to be complete BS because DBM disregards the physical strain the form puts on the body.

Spoiler:

You might not be able to completely tell in this pic, but her body isn't built to handle much since she focuses heavily on speed. Malik_DBNA actually pointed this out when I talked to him and I completely agree. That's one of the reasons why I'm not fond on how DBM's author handles details.

Actually, I think the justification is precisely because it puts strain on the body that, the bigger the power, the bigger the strain, the less it lasts.

*shrugs* I guess that could be the case.

[rereboy]

Your idea of focusing on different aspects, like speed, is good. If I did a fanfic, I would try to escape as much as possible from the STRONGEST! rule of Dragon Ball, but since the source material pretty much always lives by that rule, it's an hard task.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Your idea of focusing on different aspects, like speed, is good. If I did a fanfic, I would try to escape as much as possible from the STRONGEST! rule of Dragon Ball, but since the source material pretty much always lives by that rule, it's an hard task.

Thanks. One of the goals when making Saphi was to have her beat opponents with other aspects involved instead of just "who has the higher power level" shit, hence where the focus in speed and her strongest technique come in. If you're interested, I can explain it more via PM.

[coola]

[Vegitofaxx]

So...anyone have some predictions?

Even though I already know what happens next...(sorry guys(Btw, props for zooming in on this, you have my respect))

[FoolsGil]

So...anyone have some predictions?

Even though I already know what happens next...(sorry guys(Btw, props for zooming in on this, you have my respect))

As Goku is being absorbed, he realizes this could have all been avoided, if he wasn't a fucking idiot.

[TheGmGoken]

Goku use instant transmission! Damn it! .

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Goku use instant transmission! Damn it! .

No power left to do it.

[TheGmGoken]

Goku use instant transmission! Damn it! .

No power left to do it.

Wasn't aware that it needed power to do it.

[Lord Beerus]

Goku use instant transmission! Damn it! .

No power left to do it.

But since when does Instant Transmission waste any kind of ki?

[Vegitofaxx]

Goku use instant transmission! Damn it! .

No power left to do it.

Wasn't it based on concentration? Well, I guess gasping so hard you're almost passing out, makes it a bit hard to concentrate.

[Vegitofaxx]

Goku use instant transmission! Damn it! .

No power left to do it.

But since when does Instant Transmission waste any kind of ki?

Ninja'd

[FoolsGil]

Well, he should have enough energy to snap his own neck.