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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri May 15, 2015 3:36 pm

I call bullshit on Perfect Cell not being able to withstand 10,000x gravity. He should be able to bloody moonwalk in that kind of environment at his strength.

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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Fri May 15, 2015 3:51 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by jcogginsa » Fri May 15, 2015 3:58 pm

it says "By 10,000 again"

So bare minimum gravity is 10,000 x 10,000 Gs

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Fri May 15, 2015 4:41 pm

Honestly I just find the whole concept funny.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri May 15, 2015 5:15 pm

jcogginsa wrote:it says "By 10,000 again"

So bare minimum gravity is 10,000 x 10,000 Gs
Perfect Cell should still be able to moonwalk in that environment. I call BS on that entire scene.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by jcogginsa » Fri May 15, 2015 5:16 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:it says "By 10,000 again"

So bare minimum gravity is 10,000 x 10,000 Gs
Perfect Cell should still be able to moonwalk in that environment. I call BS on that entire scene.
What makes you say that?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri May 15, 2015 6:04 pm

jcogginsa wrote:
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jcogginsa wrote:it says "By 10,000 again"

So bare minimum gravity is 10,000 x 10,000 Gs
Perfect Cell should still be able to moonwalk in that environment. I call BS on that entire scene.
What makes you say that?
Vegeta was able to withstand 300G in the Gravity Machine, and that was before he became a SSJ. His BP is not higher than 2,500,000 by that stage. Perfect Cell is several hundreds times stronger than that. He should be tanking this sort of gravity.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri May 15, 2015 6:13 pm

It's a joke calm down.

Also gravity training have nothing to do with power levels.

Gohan and Trunks had minor trouble with ROSAT and Trunks was struggling over 100(300?)G.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by jcogginsa » Fri May 15, 2015 6:13 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: Vegeta was able to withstand 300G in the Gravity Machine, and that was before he became a SSJ. His BP is not higher than 2,500,000 by that stage. Perfect Cell is several hundreds times stronger than that. He should be tanking this sort of gravity.
And this is, bare minimum, 100,000,000x Gravity. That's not even counting gravity modifiers in the actual comic which would still be theoretically in play

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Fri May 15, 2015 7:56 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:I call bullshit on Perfect Cell not being able to withstand 10,000x gravity. He should be able to bloody moonwalk in that kind of environment at his strength.
As its been mentioned, its 10.000 times the gravity that was already there, which was AT LEAST 1000 G already, which means that its at least at 10.000.000 G. It probably is even higher since 1000 G is the current round and there's more rounds before reaching the final.
Lord Beerus wrote: Vegeta was able to withstand 300G in the Gravity Machine, and that was before he became a SSJ. His BP is not higher than 2,500,000 by that stage. Perfect Cell is several hundreds times stronger than that. He should be tanking this sort of gravity.
Nowhere in the manga is it ever stated that if a fighter with 1.000.000 in power level can withstand X gravity, a fighter with 2.000.000 in power level would be able to withstand X gravity times 2.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sat May 16, 2015 6:49 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:t says "By 10,000 again"

So bare minimum gravity is 10,000 x 10,000 Gs
Perfect Cell should still be able to moonwalk in that environment. I call BS on that entire scene.
What makes you say that?
Vegeta was able to withstand 300G in the Gravity Machine, and that was before he became a SSJ. His BP is not higher than 2,500,000 by that stage. Perfect Cell is several hundreds times stronger than that. He should be tanking this sort of gravity.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat May 16, 2015 5:47 pm

rereboy wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: Vegeta was able to withstand 300G in the Gravity Machine, and that was before he became a SSJ. His BP is not higher than 2,500,000 by that stage. Perfect Cell is several hundreds times stronger than that. He should be tanking this sort of gravity.
Nowhere in the manga is it ever stated that if a fighter with 1.000.000 in power level can withstand X gravity, a fighter with 2.000.000 in power level would be able to withstand X gravity times 2.
Yep. In fact, the manga shows that this actually isn't the case.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Pantalones » Sun May 17, 2015 12:40 pm

Gravity seems to be the kind of thing that's partly based on power and partly based on your body adjusting to it through exposure (see: kid Trunks not being able to handle a level of gravity that Vegeta had adjusted to when he was way weaker than that Trunks, but then being able to brute-force through it by going Super Saiyan. So we know it isn't just power, otherwise Trunks would've been fine right away.... but it also isn't just getting used to that level, otherwise Super Saiyan wouldn't have helped as much as it did.)

Gast and this comic's super-super-Perfect Cell being affected by gravity does seem a little silly at first glance, but considering how absurdly high the gravity is (10,000x on top of whatever it was before??) and the fact that Cell at least probably never had any gravity training at all, and we haven't seen Gast train in high gravity either... it might not be that much of an exaggeration that they'd both struggle with an absurdly high gravity level if suddenly thrown into it, at least until they had a chance to adjust.

Plus, it's just a joke comic -- not meant to be taken seriously or seen as "what would really happen" in the least. An earlier one had Cell and Gast having a "who can regenerate their arm the most" contest instead of fighting, if I'm remembering right. XD

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Post by Hades » Sun May 17, 2015 2:24 pm

Yeah, that's actually kinda racist.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by jcogginsa » Sun May 17, 2015 2:30 pm

yeah. Didn't the authors have a problem with that

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Doctor. » Sun May 17, 2015 2:30 pm

Hades wrote:Yeah, that's actually kinda racist.
Salagir wrote:Ok, I didn't understand your comments so google was my friend. I guess there is a cliche about black people and watermelons o_o
So I'll say this now: I didn't know about that. This is USA racism, not french racism (oh, we have a lot, but it doesn't involve watermelon). So no, no racism intended.
I chose the biggest fruit available, because it seemed to me to be a better fit for this large Buu. That's all.
(I knew about fried chicken cliche thought)

While I'm here, about previous page: we didn't make Uub blow the spell back, totally on the purpose to do differently from the manga. He touched it and that didn't transform him, because he knows how it works know. U4 Buu is much more knowledgeable about his own spells and can for sure touch them too.

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Post by Scarz » Sun May 17, 2015 2:39 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Hades wrote:Yeah, that's actually kinda racist.
Salagir wrote:Ok, I didn't understand your comments so google was my friend. I guess there is a cliche about black people and watermelons o_o
So I'll say this now: I didn't know about that. This is USA racism, not french racism (oh, we have a lot, but it doesn't involve watermelon). So no, no racism intended.
I chose the biggest fruit available, because it seemed to me to be a better fit for this large Buu. That's all.
(I knew about fried chicken cliche thought)

While I'm here, about previous page: we didn't make Uub blow the spell back, totally on the purpose to do differently from the manga. He touched it and that didn't transform him, because he knows how it works know. U4 Buu is much more knowledgeable about his own spells and can for sure touch them too.
It's funny, I didn't feel it was racist at all! In fact, I had the same mindset Salagir stated when I first saw the page. Watermelons are big and round, like Buu. I actually thought it was pretty clever.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Vegitofaxx » Sun May 17, 2015 2:40 pm

And as always, everything flew over my head :lol:
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun May 17, 2015 2:41 pm

I understand black and watermelon jokes.

But don't see how in this case it was racist. Boo is shaped like a watermelon :lol: .

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