Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[Faisal Shourov]

Nop, Super has far better sales than OP, and you can check that just by looking for it in the forum.
Super is superior to OP in merchandising and DVD sales (again, look for it in the forum and you will find it), the only thing OP is far superior and unjustifiably is in manga sales, which last time I checked, OP was in top 5 and Super in top 15 if I remember correctly.

Well, DB is not made for only local audience, since the very first moment they knew the series was going to arrive in a lot of countries all around the globe.

Are you trolling? One Piece absolutely dominates Dragon Ball in EVERYTHING in Japan. Everything, every single thing. Merchandise, movie, anime, manga, games, you name it

[kinisking]

Nop, Super has far better sales than OP, and you can check that just by looking for it in the forum.
Super is superior to OP in merchandising and DVD sales (again, look for it in the forum and you will find it), the only thing OP is far superior and unjustifiably is in manga sales, which last time I checked, OP was in top 5 and Super in top 15 if I remember correctly.

Well, DB is not made for only local audience, since the very first moment they knew the series was going to arrive in a lot of countries all around the globe.

Are you trolling? One Piece absolutely dominates Dragon Ball in EVERYTHING in Japan. Everything, every single thing. Merchandise, movie, anime, manga, games, you name it

That's not true. Dragonball factually has better merchandising sales than One piece.

[Alee9977]

Nop, Super has far better sales than OP, and you can check that just by looking for it in the forum.
Super is superior to OP in merchandising and DVD sales (again, look for it in the forum and you will find it), the only thing OP is far superior and unjustifiably is in manga sales, which last time I checked, OP was in top 5 and Super in top 15 if I remember correctly.

Well, DB is not made for only local audience, since the very first moment they knew the series was going to arrive in a lot of countries all around the globe.

Are you trolling? One Piece absolutely dominates Dragon Ball in EVERYTHING in Japan. Everything, every single thing. Merchandise, movie, anime, manga, games, you name it

That's not true. Dragonball factually has better merchandising sales than One piece.

That's what I have been saying all the time, there are things where OP dominates and others where DB does, not so difficult to understand.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Nop, Super has far better sales than OP, and you can check that just by looking for it in the forum.
Super is superior to OP in merchandising and DVD sales (again, look for it in the forum and you will find it), the only thing OP is far superior and unjustifiably is in manga sales, which last time I checked, OP was in top 5 and Super in top 15 if I remember correctly.

Well, DB is not made for only local audience, since the very first moment they knew the series was going to arrive in a lot of countries all around the globe.

Are you trolling? One Piece absolutely dominates Dragon Ball in EVERYTHING in Japan. Everything, every single thing. Merchandise, movie, anime, manga, games, you name it

That's not true. Dragonball factually has better merchandising sales than One piece.

In North America

[kinisking]

Are you trolling? One Piece absolutely dominates Dragon Ball in EVERYTHING in Japan. Everything, every single thing. Merchandise, movie, anime, manga, games, you name it

That's not true. Dragonball factually has better merchandising sales than One piece.

In North America

It's number two in Japan,with Gundam being first.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

That's not true. Dragonball factually has better merchandising sales than One piece.

In North America

It's number two in Japan,with Gundam being first.

That was worldwide, not just Japan. We should all just drop the topic and be on topic with the thread

[kinisking]

In North America

It's number two in Japan,with Gundam being first.

That was worldwide, not just Japan. We should all just drop the topic and be on topic with the thread

I'm 99 percent certain it was like this in Japan too.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

It's number two in Japan,with Gundam being first.

That was worldwide, not just Japan. We should all just drop the topic and be on topic with the thread

I'm 99 percent certain it was like this in Japan too.

Just checked the numbers again, it's worldwide. Again, we should just drop the topic

[Sodhi]

I know this is just dragging the discussion but this is a good chart which gives us pretty good idea of what is going on in Japan.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... 16/.110442
So yeah, One piece even without games, movie ticket sales, etc, makes way more than DB. No competition in Japan.

[Bullza]

I know this is just dragging the discussion but this is a good chart which gives us pretty good idea of what is going on in Japan.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... 16/.110442
So yeah, One piece even without games, movie ticket sales, etc, makes way more than DB. No competition in Japan.

I don't think that's a fair comparison. One Piece sold 12.3 million volumes in 2016 so that makes up about ¥5.3 billion of that ¥6.6 billion.

Dragon Ball doesn't really have a manga. There's the Super one but it's just a small promotional manga.

[Sodhi]

I think it's fair, manga sales are the biggest indicator when it comes to popularity in Japan. However I do wonder what if Super's manga was done by Toriyama, weekly. Then again at this point it's just a what if. Plus none of these effect TV ratings anyway, at least it doesn't look like it. It's not out of the question for Super to beat One piece, but Idk if the timeslot would allow that to happen.

[Sodhi]

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[Lord Beerus]

Way it go My Hero Academia! Super is still doing... fine.

[Araki]

I think it's fair, manga sales are the biggest indicator when it comes to popularity in Japan. However I do wonder what if Super's manga was done by Toriyama, weekly. Then again at this point it's just a what if. Plus none of these effect TV ratings anyway, at least it doesn't look like it. It's not out of the question for Super to beat One piece, but Idk if the timeslot would allow that to happen.

Since that list is pretty much only manga/disc based, it's not an accurate representation of whether a franchise is a sales juggernaut or not, as it's excluding way too many sources of incoming. And as said, it's not fair to compare manga sales, as the Super manga doesn't even get high prints to begin (although sales of vol. 2 were actually impressive for a monthly promotional manga done by a newcomer).

[Sodhi]

Just showing, how much more money there is to make, especially for jump. Hopefully they increase the page count soon
I did not include merchandise, because there is a different chart for that. .
Again, One piece is on the top in Japan, however overseas is a different story.

[kinisking]

I did not include merchandise, because there is a different chart for that. .
Again, One piece is on the top in Japan, however overseas is a different story.

Interesting. I wished where I heard super is 2 and Gundam is first in Japan. Or maybe I misread ? Pretty interesting. Does this include manga sales?

[Sodhi]

I forgot the actual website, but this is from Bandai/Toei. So mostly merchandise.
Edit: This is a good post to refer to

Everything from TV, Merchandise(not only Toys) and other things make money and they all are important. Also is important to understand a franchise isn't divided by TV vs Merchandise, TV makes part of a bigger group of sales called Film(TV, Disks, Movies, Others) and Merchandise, also called Character Business, is the grouping of 2 things, Licensing + Sales of Goods.
This two groups in average sell the same thing though it really depends of the period of time. I believe that right now with the boom in International Licensing, the Character Business is doing better.

In fact, the 1st quarter of 2017 Financial Year(April to 30 June of 2016) from Toei Animation came out, so we can take a look, specially with Dragon Ball performance .

In terms of TV series Toei Animation in general earned: 953 Million yen.
In terms of Film earned 2.93 Billion Yen, Licensing earned 4.16 Billion Yen and Sales of Goods earned 1.76 Billion Yen.(NOTE: The sum of this 3 almost certainly places Toei around the Top 4 anime Studios in sales of this year, already!)

Dragon Ball Super continued its great increase in sales!

In Domestic Licensing went from last year 425 Million Yen to 787 Million Yen, a 80% increase! In 2013 the series was doing 80 Million Yen.
In Overseas Licensing went from last year 247 Million Yen to 652 Million Yen, a 64% increase! In 2013 the series was doing 61 Million Yen.
In Overseas Film went from last year 240 Million Yen to 458 Million Yen, a 91% increase! In 2013 the series was doing 73 Million yen.

I wished where I heard super is 2 and Gundam is first in Japan. Or maybe I misread ?

I think you may be referring to this
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/11/ba ... 6-figures/
This is older version of the chart

[Faisal Shourov]

That's not true. Dragonball factually has better merchandising sales than One piece.

100% false. One Piece makes more money than Dragon Ball in everything in Japan. One Piece has its own THEME PARK. Japan is obsessed with One Piece, people write Research Paper on One Piece in Japan. 85% of One Piece manga readers are adults, and 1 in 3 person in Japan regularly reads One Piece. One Piece is much more than just a manga in Japan. It's part of their culture, not just an entertainment product.

http://kotaku.com/inside-japans-new-one ... 1690998898

https://ithinkincomics.com/2012/07/04/o ... y-of-life/

https://youtu.be/SKsYrzWSsXU?t=4m29s

http://kotaku.com/5900555/japan-tries-t ... -one-piece

[SaiyanGod117]

http://www.pocketgamer.biz/asia/news/64 ... s-q2-fy16/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamesp ... 0-6447608/

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZhugeEX/stat ... 77/photo/1

[Sodhi]

http://www.pocketgamer.biz/asia/news/64 ... s-q2-fy16/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamesp ... 0-6447608/

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZhugeEX/stat ... 77/photo/1

It is pretty good to know that DB is still strong internationally. Feels good