Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Tzigi]

I feel like Salagir could solve a lot of his pacing problems if this series was only in writen form, the necessity to draw it all likely forces him to rush through things instead of giving them time to breathe. I wouldn't be as popular as it is but with a good translator I think it would still become a fairly well know fan fic based on its premise alone.

Is there anything stopping you from proofreading the official novelization of DBM which is exactly what you describe?

[ekrolo2]

I feel like Salagir could solve a lot of his pacing problems if this series was only in writen form, the necessity to draw it all likely forces him to rush through things instead of giving them time to breathe. I wouldn't be as popular as it is but with a good translator I think it would still become a fairly well know fan fic based on its premise alone.

Is there anything stopping you from proofreading the official novelization of DBM which is exactly what you describe?

I meant working exclusively on the novelization first then turning it into a fan manga after the written version is completed. That way he could execute the story at his own desired pace instead of letting the art force him into rushing through things as I feel he does throughout a lot of the fights. At the same time, the lack of art would let him finish the tournament quicker instead of needing to resort to fun but utterly pointless specials very so often.

[Tzigi]

At the same time, the lack of art would let him finish the tournament quicker instead of needing to resort to fun but utterly pointless specials very so often.

Still the same misconception. The specials aren't taking time from the main plot. Salagir wants the main plot to be drawn by a competent artist copying Toriyama's style as closely as possible. There aren't many such artists out there. And if we intersect this group with the group of artists who can draw without remuneration on a schedule that enables DBM to be published 3 times a week, then we get really few (only Asura for now - earlier Gogeta Jr was such an exception)*. Thus, if there were no specials, then DBM would simply take breaks between chapters of the main plot and the tournament wouldn't finish any quicker. The specials buy time for the main plot by making sure the audience comes back 3 times a week to take a look at the new page and doesn't forget about DBM. They don't buy time for the story as it was all written from the beginning (sure - not in minute details but the broad strokes were there).

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* This entails also quite another problem: someone could imagine Salagir persuading 4-5 great artists to draw each one chapter of the main plot and then publish those without "pointless specials" but what if artists numbers 1, 2, 4 and 5 did their job and the 3rd one didn't? Should Salagir wait for this third one, assign his chapter to another artist (and then hear the angry cries of the original one that he was just a bit delayed and so on) or publish all the chapters and have a hole in his story? This exact problem happened with another nice and interesting DB fanmanga: Dragon ball Dimensions. All the chapters were from the start assigned to different artists and one failed to deliver. Thus the whole fanmanga had to wait several months for a solution.

[coola]

[Lord Beerus]

The expression on Goku's face when he looks back reminds me greatly of this:

[ekrolo2]

At the same time, the lack of art would let him finish the tournament quicker instead of needing to resort to fun but utterly pointless specials very so often.

Still the same misconception. The specials aren't taking time from the main plot. Salagir wants the main plot to be drawn by a competent artist copying Toriyama's style as closely as possible. There aren't many such artists out there. And if we intersect this group with the group of artists who can draw without remuneration on a schedule that enables DBM to be published 3 times a week, then we get really few (only Asura for now - earlier Gogeta Jr was such an exception)*. Thus, if there were no specials, then DBM would simply take breaks between chapters of the main plot and the tournament wouldn't finish any quicker. The specials buy time for the main plot by making sure the audience comes back 3 times a week to take a look at the new page and doesn't forget about DBM. They don't buy time for the story as it was all written from the beginning (sure - not in minute details but the broad strokes were there).

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* This entails also quite another problem: someone could imagine Salagir persuading 4-5 great artists to draw each one chapter of the main plot and then publish those without "pointless specials" but what if artists numbers 1, 2, 4 and 5 did their job and the 3rd one didn't? Should Salagir wait for this third one, assign his chapter to another artist (and then hear the angry cries of the original one that he was just a bit delayed and so on) or publish all the chapters and have a hole in his story? This exact problem happened with another nice and interesting DB fanmanga: Dragon ball Dimensions. All the chapters were from the start assigned to different artists and one failed to deliver. Thus the whole fanmanga had to wait several months for a solution.

The benefit of having the whole thing written from start to finish before its drawn, with or with specials also getting that same treatment is that if someones annoyed by the overall pace of how the tournament is progressing in the manga, they can simply go read the "fanfic" version of it to see what happens after the fact. Sort of how people say watch a show in its anime form, reach a dead end there and just say screw it and read what happens after the latest episode in the manga version. I know I did it for both Naruto and Bleach back in the day then just kept zig zaging between the two versions from time to time.

This way people who are sick and tired of waiting for the manga version to finish can simply jump on the fanfic version to get the full story then come back to the manga too see how the various written events are interpreted by the artists later on. I'm not saying the current system is 100% broken and must be axed but I do think giving people an alternative to see where the story is going to compensate for the slow progression of the manga would be nice. I find the novelization to be quite well written and I liked the added insight it gives into characters that the manga version only touches on or ignores entirely. I think people would be okay with a system like this. As I said above, people do it all the time with the standard manga/anime format and this would be similar.

[TheGmGoken]

Wish we saw Krillin and Goku bond more.

[Scarz]

The expression on Goku's face when he looks back reminds me greatly of this:

It makes me happy when someone finds the references!

Hoped you guys enjoyed the special! I had a lot of fun drawing it! And to be honest, without being biased, it was one of my favorite DBM specials so far. The only thing I wish it expanded on was the friendship between Krillin and Kakarot. In hindsight maybe the story should have been written with Goku being taken under Roshi's wing, only for it to fall apart later because of his savage nature.

Just to clear a few things up, art wise, the entire chapter was drawn and mostly inked by me. The first 4-5 pages (If I remember correctly) was inked Gokuten. I sketched the chapter first but unfortunately he could not finish it so I inked the rest. I tried to go for an early manga look for the characters, to give it the feel of DB and not Z.

Also got in contact with Salagir again, and it looks like you might be seeing something from me again. I can't say what it is but I hope you guys will like it too!

[coola]

I rally enjoyed this special too, both story and art, it is little strange, that such martial art expert as Roshi would fall into such trap so easily, but other than that, great job

[FoolsGil]

Amazing artwork aside, this special is hampered by contrived coincidences. Kakarot standing up to Master Roshi, sans tail and winning? Master Roshi not thinking clearly and then receiving a head injury, when Bora in the canon material tanked machine gun fire in a non comedic setting? If Master Roshi had to die, why couldn't have been by Great Ape? If against the idea, why did Master Roshi have to die now, and not later on when Kakarot is older and stronger? It's a shame, It had a promising start. And worst of all, we still don't know why Kakarot is insane.

[Regarder]

In hindsight maybe the story should have been written with Goku being taken under Roshi's wing, only for it to fall apart later because of his savage nature.

This is what I thought reading it. If only they'd given you more time. I like it still.

[miguelnuva1]

At the same time, the lack of art would let him finish the tournament quicker instead of needing to resort to fun but utterly pointless specials very so often.

* This entails also quite another problem: someone could imagine Salagir persuading 4-5 great artists to draw each one chapter of the main plot and then publish those without "pointless specials" but what if artists numbers 1, 2, 4 and 5 did their job and the 3rd one didn't? Should Salagir wait for this third one, assign his chapter to another artist (and then hear the angry cries of the original one that he was just a bit delayed and so on) or publish all the chapters and have a hole in his story? This exact problem happened with another nice and interesting DB fanmanga: Dragon ball Dimensions. All the chapters were from the start assigned to different artists and one failed to deliver. Thus the whole fanmanga had to wait several months for a solution.

Yes you would fire them, if he did that at work or school he would get an F or be fired from his job. Unless their was a good reason like a death in the family artist 3nshould be replaced.

[rereboy]

At the same time, the lack of art would let him finish the tournament quicker instead of needing to resort to fun but utterly pointless specials very so often.

* This entails also quite another problem: someone could imagine Salagir persuading 4-5 great artists to draw each one chapter of the main plot and then publish those without "pointless specials" but what if artists numbers 1, 2, 4 and 5 did their job and the 3rd one didn't? Should Salagir wait for this third one, assign his chapter to another artist (and then hear the angry cries of the original one that he was just a bit delayed and so on) or publish all the chapters and have a hole in his story? This exact problem happened with another nice and interesting DB fanmanga: Dragon ball Dimensions. All the chapters were from the start assigned to different artists and one failed to deliver. Thus the whole fanmanga had to wait several months for a solution.

Yes you would fire them, if he did that at work or school he would get an F or be fired from his job. Unless their was a good reason like a death in the family artist 3nshould be replaced.

That wouldn't stop the delay from happening.

[coola]

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Oh shit!!!

Can't wait to see how this plays out.

[Lord Beerus]

Freeza and Cooler fighting to the death? It was only a matter of time.

[Marco Polo]

Freeza has no chance.

[Hellspawn28]

Coola's second form looks neat.

[coola]

Cool to see Coola reduced form, and, King Cold interfere?

[ekrolo2]

The look on Freeza's face is pure gold.