Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
rereboy wrote:No real reason. Of course, even in the original manga, they could have used earlier and didn't.
They probably would not survive.
That always struck me as bizarre design wise. Why would you create a dimension for training that nobody can use unless they're many times stronger than Freeza?
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How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
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Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
rereboy wrote:The whole reason Goku knows about it is because he used as a kid. ROSAT doesn't even higher gravity than Kaio's planet.
He tried to use actually, he couldn't keep up with the atmosphere.
He stayed there for a whole month. He could keep up, just not more than one month.
ekrolo2 wrote:
That always struck me as bizarre design wise. Why would you create a dimension for training that nobody can use unless they're many times stronger than Freeza?
They can. Kid Goku stayed there for a whole month. He couldn't do it for more than that, but it was still a whole month.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Noah wrote:Was this stated in the manga? Also 1 month in the RoSaT is how much time outside?
Yes, it was. When Goku and Gohan enter ROSAT, Goku explains how it works to Gohan and Goku also states that he wasn't able to stay there for more than a month when he was a kid.
One year in ROSAT is one day outside, so 1 month in ROSAT would be 1/12 of a day outside (aka 2 hours outside).
But, yet no guarantee they could survive a whole year, I guess
So what? ROSAT doesn't stop anyone from becoming stronger if don't stay a whole year in there. Even if a fighter stays less time than one year, he will still get results from the time he spent there. And the objective is to get stronger, not stay there a whole year.
In fact, Goku and Gohan left ROSAT before the whole year was up in the Cell arc because Goku felt there was no need to stay longer.
rereboy wrote:Yes, it was. When Goku and Gohan enter ROSAT, Goku explains how it works to Gohan and Goku also states that he wasn't able to stay there for more than a month when he was a kid.
Don't this contradicts Goku not being used to King Kai's planet gravity if RoSaT had the same level and he stayed in that place for 1 month?
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
rereboy wrote:Yes, it was. When Goku and Gohan enter ROSAT, Goku explains how it works to Gohan and Goku also states that he wasn't able to stay there for more than a month when he was a kid.
Don't this contradicts Goku not being used to King Kai's planet gravity if RoSaT had the same level and he stayed in that place for 1 month?
Yes, it does. Even if Goku still wasn't really used to it, at least he should have been familiar with that kind of thing. The explanation is simple, though: Toriyama hadn't thought of ROSAT yet.
It's probably what happened, but, if Freeza wasn't there, and he spared Gunyu and others, why he destroyed capital? i dont imagine Goku being such d.ck
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Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
coola wrote:
It's probably what happened, but, if Freeza wasn't there, and he spared Gunyu and others, why he destroyed capital? i dont imagine Goku being such d.ck