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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:44 pm

TheOverlyMadHatter wrote:
MediaFanGirl93 wrote:I actually like the English dub of the show. Sure it may have errors, but I still enjoy it.
Not really unpopular. Lots of people enjoy it.
Oh. I was just surprised because I saw some people complain about it.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:17 pm

MediaFanGirl93 wrote:
TheOverlyMadHatter wrote:
MediaFanGirl93 wrote:I actually like the English dub of the show. Sure it may have errors, but I still enjoy it.
Not really unpopular. Lots of people enjoy it.
Oh. I was just surprised because I saw some people complain about it.
It's the internet. People complain about anything and everything

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by garnetjester » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:18 pm

My favorite Dragon ball ending is Detekoi Tobikiri zenkai power.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:26 pm

Cell absorbed one of Yamcha's bastard children at one point, hence why he has the "lose a tournament" gene.
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Post by Elguapo » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:19 am

This thread is too long to go over, so maybe there are others who feel like me..

I never liked Goten or Kid trunks, it always pissed me off they were so powerful so quick. Making beast like Piccolo & to a lesser extent Tien seem like jokes.

I think we all hate Videl, I never like Gohan really after the Cell Saga..

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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:26 am

Elguapo wrote:This thread is too long to go over, so maybe there are others who feel like me..

I never liked Goten or Kid trunks, it always pissed me off they were so powerful so quick. Making beast like Piccolo & to a lesser extent Tenshinhan seem like jokes.

I think we all hate Videl, I never like Gohan really after the Cell Saga..
The only thing that bothered me about Goten and Trunks was the fact that they could turn Super Saiyan like it was nothing. Other than that, I didn't have a problem. They are the sons of Goku and Vegeta and it isn't like they don't train, so the fact that they are strong never bothered me.

I like Videl and know plenty of other people who do. Not sure where you're getting that we all hate her. :wtf:

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Post by garnetjester » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:04 pm

I love Videl, she's so spunky!

I feel like the kids becoming SSJ was so weird and kind of unjustified that even Vegeta comments on it in-universe. I love TrunTen a lot though, I find them hilarious, so it doesn't bother me anyhow.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:07 pm

I think the manga could afford to lose an arc or even two. I'm already working on a fan idea that combines the 21st Budokai and 22nd Budokai.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:09 pm

Elguapo wrote:I think we all hate Videl
You'd definitely be wrong there - she's my favorite female character in the franchise, believe it or not.
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Post by xmysticgohanx » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:18 pm

She's mine too.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:51 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:
Elguapo wrote:I think we all hate Videl
You'd definitely be wrong there - she's my favorite female character in the franchise, believe it or not.
She's no favorite of mine but she's awright even though she suffers from being introduced so late into the series, she had a likable personality (like her better in the manga though) , and her relationship with Gohan is the only pairing with sufficient amount of development.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:55 am

Trying to stem what story changes I would make:

-I'd have Yamcha beat Ram Fan in the 21st Budokai. Seeing as his character arc in the first saga was about getting over his fear of women.
-I also think Yamcha should have been stronger than Kuririn until the Namek Arc, considering it makes more sense if the Worf Character was the second strongest as opposed to being weaker than the sidekick.
-I also think he should have beaten The Mummy in the Red Ribbon Army Arc too.
-Goku should have faced Bora in the first round off the 22nd Budokai arc instead of random fodder.
-Tenshinhan should have beat Goku cleanly in that same tournament.
-Tenshinhan should have given up his assassin goal when Chaotzu died, not when Jackie Chun Talk No Jutsu'd him.
-The Daimao arc is a rehash of the Tao stuff, but I'm not sure how I'd redo it
-Cyborg Tao was lame, Tenshinhan should have battled Yajirobe in the 23rd Budokai.
-Another part of the 23rd Budokai that annoys me is that every match has a predictable winner. I was thinking of Kuririn beating Yamcha first round, then losing to Ma Junior in the semi-finals. Would get to miss out on the Shen/Yamcha fight though.
-I'd remove the Kuririn sword scene in the Saiyan arc completely, makes Goku look way less of a selfish dick.
-Piccolo should have showed up earlier on Namek, have him save everyone from Recoome instead of Goku.
-Cut out one of Freeza's form entirely.
-Give Freeza an actual backstory and explain why he is so overpowered.
-Have Goku only show up for the Freeza fight, and Freeza die at the Genki Dama. No SSJ stuff til later.
-Cell Games Gohan should have been the only SSJ, same design as SSJ2 though.
-Cell Games Gohan should have been more like Movie #9 Gohan too.
-Gohan should have killed Dabura.
-"SSJ3" should have just been a gloried Kaioken...because that is what it basically was.

There's a few things I'd change like the Buu arc so its more linear, but I'm conflicted on how to change that. Ditto for the Cell arc.
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Post by ABED » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:12 am

-Tenshinhan should have given up his assassin goal when Chaotzu died, not when Jackie Chun Talk No Jutsu'd him.
Then you'd miss the whole point of that arc.
-Give Freeza an actual backstory and explain why he is so overpowered.
Sometimes "he just is" is for the better. Not everything needs an explanation.
-The Daimao arc is a rehash of the Tao stuff
There are some similarities, but there are enough differences that it's not just a retread. Goku loses SEVERAL people close to him, Piccolo destroys the dragon balls and conquers the world.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:29 am

ABED wrote:
-Tenshinhan should have given up his assassin goal when Chaotzu died, not when Jackie Chun Talk No Jutsu'd him.
Then you'd miss the whole point of that arc.
On top of that Tenshinhan giving up his assassin goal because Chaozu died hardly makes any sense. Wait, and didn't Ten give it up when he saw Tsuru-sennin cheating?

P.S. If the Z-Supporters were around to see Gohan turn Oozaru and crush Vegeta, do you think Chi-Chi would come to Goku's aid instead of Gohan's or how do that scene would play out if she were to stop at her frantic tracks and check up on Goku if only for at least a second? Sorry but this question has been nagging me for some time and I had to let it out.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:21 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
ABED wrote:
-Tenshinhan should have given up his assassin goal when Chaotzu died, not when Jackie Chun Talk No Jutsu'd him.
Then you'd miss the whole point of that arc.
Wait, and didn't Ten give it up when he saw Tsuru-sennin cheating?
He can still want a fair fight and e a"do your own thing" character, I just hate when character arcs last like 5 minutes
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Post by ABED » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:21 pm

Kid Buu wrote:He can still want a fair fight and e a"do your own thing" character, I just hate when character arcs last like 5 minutes
His arc took 18 episodes, 19 if you count that filler episode. 18 is greater than the length of a season for some shows.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:24 pm

I think the DB/DBZ/GT English dub is really good and isn't nearly as bad & inaccurate as a lot of people say.

I have a few story changes as well. (Some are the same as Kid Buu's)

- Yamcha beat The Mummy.
- Tao didn't become a cyborg and just died from that grenade to the face. Lol
-Goku actually beat Freeza on Namek.
-Vegeta gets SSJ3 in the 10 year gap, and him and Goku fight in the final round of the tournament.
Then Goku takes Uub back to his house to train him.
-Gohan beat Dabura.

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Post by Gutsxgoku » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:28 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:I think the DB/DBZ/GT English dub is really good and isn't nearly as bad & inaccurate as a lot of people say.

I have a few story changes as well. (Some are the same as Kid Buu's)

- Yamcha beat The Mummy.
- Tao didn't become a cyborg and just died from that grenade to the face. Lol
-Goku actually beat Freeza on Namek.
-Vegeta gets SSJ3 in the 10 year gap, and him and Goku fight in the final round of the tournament.
Then Goku takes Uub back to his house to train him.
-Gohan beat Dabura.
^This... Except I wouldn't know about GT as I don't think I have watched more than three episodes of it but other than that good stuff! :D

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Elguapo » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:05 pm

I cant believe so many people like Videl, next your gonna tell me pan is a fan favorite. :crazy:

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:09 pm

Elguapo wrote:I cant believe so many people like Videl, next your gonna tell me pan is a fan favorite. :crazy:
Well, what exactly is it about her that you don't like? Elaboration would possibly make it easier to see why it's so jarring to you. :P

Also, nah...seems like most people do detest Pan, or at least how GT handled her. I seem to be in the minority in thinking that she was great.
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