Ajay wrote:I scanned the covers and turned them into a wallpaper for anyone interested or just wanting a better look:
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Note that the colours are different as only the inside cover contains both illustrations and they've been designed with traditional tankoubon colours.
Still not a fan of SSGSS Goku being on the U6 section and Hit on the U7. I get what their going for but would be better if Base Goku and Hit swapped.
But thanks for this anyway!
Ajay wrote:I scanned the covers and turned them into a wallpaper for anyone interested or just wanting a better look:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Note that the colours are different as only the inside cover contains both illustrations and they've been designed with traditional tankoubon colours.
The colours are pretty amazing along with Goku's nose. I didn't notice that the Dragon Ball Super's Spin-off promotional manga uses the anime colours, just look at Piccolo's arms, pink colour, just like the anime.
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Ajay wrote:I scanned the covers and turned them into a wallpaper for anyone interested or just wanting a better look:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Note that the colours are different as only the inside cover contains both illustrations and they've been designed with traditional tankoubon colours.
The colours are pretty amazing along with Goku's nose. I didn't notice that the Dragon Ball Super's Spin-off promotional manga uses the anime colours, just look at Piccolo's arms, pink colour, just like the anime.
Well, aside from Trunks' hair, Toriyama himself is using the anime colors now. There's also Piccolo having 5 fingers, rather than 4.
New Dragon Ball isn't going anywhere any time soon, we'll get past end of Z eventually, if not some time in the next year or two.
I wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason we haven't gone past end of Z is because Toriyama wasn't sure how long this would last. Toriyama started writing the Trunks arc before the Champa arc even aired, so it still wouldn't have been clear then and even when he started writing the next arc he might not have been sure, but by the arc after next (which he has probably started work on) he'll have know full well from the beginning that Dragon Ball is staying. If the promise is the tournament I wouldn't be surprised if it's the last arc before we go past Z, in fact that be a nice little way to end Super's status as an interquel.
I doubt it. I'd put my money on the show ending before they go past Z. That would mean including Oob and other post stuff, which it seems they want to stay far away from. Not to mention the refusal of letting characters grow up. I am certain the timeline will be kept ambiguous and we're never leaving the gap. Bra will be lucky if she's ever born. Though Baby Bra is still more likely then going past the EOZ.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Ajay wrote:I scanned the covers and turned them into a wallpaper for anyone interested or just wanting a better look:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Note that the colours are different as only the inside cover contains both illustrations and they've been designed with traditional tankoubon colours.
The colours are pretty amazing along with Goku's nose. I didn't notice that the Dragon Ball Super's Spin-off promotional manga uses the anime colours, just look at Piccolo's arms, pink colour, just like the anime.
Well, aside from Trunks' hair, Toriyama himself is using the anime colors now. There's also Piccolo having 5 fingers, rather than 4.
Pink arms and 5 fingers is a much better design and I think we can call it his 'canon' design now.
New Dragon Ball isn't going anywhere any time soon, we'll get past end of Z eventually, if not some time in the next year or two.
I wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason we haven't gone past end of Z is because Toriyama wasn't sure how long this would last. Toriyama started writing the Trunks arc before the Champa arc even aired, so it still wouldn't have been clear then and even when he started writing the next arc he might not have been sure, but by the arc after next (which he has probably started work on) he'll have know full well from the beginning that Dragon Ball is staying. If the promise is the tournament I wouldn't be surprised if it's the last arc before we go past Z, in fact that be a nice little way to end Super's status as an interquel.
I doubt it. I'd put my money on the show ending before they go past Z. That would mean including Oob and other post stuff, which it seems they want to stay far away from. Not to mention the refusal of letting characters grow up. I am certain the timeline will be kept ambiguous and we're never leaving the gap. Bra will be lucky if she's ever born. Though Baby Bra is still more likely then going past the EOZ.
This would be disappointing unless the show ended soon...which itself would be even more disappointing.
Part of the appeal in DB to me has always been the aging process and the story events taking place at distinct times in characters lives. I sadly think youre probably right though.
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ArchedThunder wrote:
New Dragon Ball isn't going anywhere any time soon, we'll get past end of Z eventually, if not some time in the next year or two.
I wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason we haven't gone past end of Z is because Toriyama wasn't sure how long this would last. Toriyama started writing the Trunks arc before the Champa arc even aired, so it still wouldn't have been clear then and even when he started writing the next arc he might not have been sure, but by the arc after next (which he has probably started work on) he'll have know full well from the beginning that Dragon Ball is staying. If the promise is the tournament I wouldn't be surprised if it's the last arc before we go past Z, in fact that be a nice little way to end Super's status as an interquel.
I doubt it. I'd put my money on the show ending before they go past Z. That would mean including Oob and other post stuff, which it seems they want to stay far away from. Not to mention the refusal of letting characters grow up. I am certain the timeline will be kept ambiguous and we're never leaving the gap. Bra will be lucky if she's ever born. Though Baby Bra is still more likely then going past the EOZ.
This would be disappointing unless the show ended soon...which itself would be even more disappointing.
Part of the appeal in DB to me has always been the aging process and the story events taking place at distinct times in characters lives. I sadly think youre probably right though.
We are definitely going past EOZ. Only so many stories you can tell before it. They also seem to be setting up pan for something
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kinisking wrote:We are definitely going past EOZ. Only so many stories you can tell before it. They also seem to be setting up pan for something
That's an awfully strong statement. Firstly, they're being real vague on how much time passes. This tells me that either they're making it intentionally vague as to keep the characters as they are for as long as their purposes suit it, or they just aren't paying attention, in which case we won't go past the EoZ until the notion hits Toriyama.
Regarding Pan, she does seem to be a focus in the down-time, but that's all. Even if she is being built up for something, who knows what it is? Toriyama is notorious for not thinking things through. So if he's responsible for any build-up that Pan has gotten, it could lead nowhere, it could lead somewhere after the show's been on for 10 more years, or it could happen in the next big arc. Either way, to say that it will definitely happen is far-fetched, even assuming that Toriyama is responsible for Pan's role, which isn't substantiated in itself.
kinisking wrote:We are definitely going past EOZ. Only so many stories you can tell before it. They also seem to be setting up pan for something
That's an awfully strong statement. Firstly, they're being real vague on how much time passes. This tells me that either they're making it intentionally vague as to keep the characters as they are for as long as their purposes suit it, or they just aren't paying attention, in which case we won't go past the EoZ until the notion hits Toriyama.
Regarding Pan, she does seem to be a focus in the down-time, but that's all. Even if she is being built up for something, who knows what it is? Toriyama is notorious for not thinking things through. So if he's responsible for any build-up that Pan has gotten, it could lead nowhere, it could lead somewhere after the show's been on for 10 more years, or it could happen in the next big arc. Either way, to say that it will definitely happen is far-fetched, even assuming that Toriyama is responsible for Pan's role, which isn't substantiated in itself.
Adult Trunks and Goten toys aren't going to sell themselves. I obviously can't truly say it's certain, but I'm 99 percent sure.
Pans birth was also listed on the official timeline if I remember correctly. Seems that they're trying to push her. Even if Toriyama isn't the one doing it, Toei could convince him. We've already seen them suggest things to him with the future trunks arc.
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dbzfan7 wrote:
I doubt it. I'd put my money on the show ending before they go past Z. That would mean including Oob and other post stuff, which it seems they want to stay far away from. Not to mention the refusal of letting characters grow up. I am certain the timeline will be kept ambiguous and we're never leaving the gap. Bra will be lucky if she's ever born. Though Baby Bra is still more likely then going past the EOZ.
This would be disappointing unless the show ended soon...which itself would be even more disappointing.
Part of the appeal in DB to me has always been the aging process and the story events taking place at distinct times in characters lives. I sadly think youre probably right though.
We are definitely going past EOZ. Only so many stories you can tell before it. They also seem to be setting up pan for something
I really hope so and it DOES make sense in terms of merch sales for the existing fanbase.
However how they have handled the time frame so far makes me doubtful. If they were to release an official timeline for the existing arcs id be more hopeful. So I'm hoping we get that.
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If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.
DBZ Macky wrote:If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.
Because nobody is going to take seriously the show and it's really weird that 100 enemies appear in only 10 years. when in Z we had enemies every 5 years in average.
DBZ Macky wrote:If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.
Because nobody is going to take seriously the show and it's really weird that 100 enemies appear in only 10 years. when in Z we had enemies every 5 years in average.
That's assuming EoZ is still happens or happens the way it did. We still haven't got any confirmation this is an interquel as far as I am aware just that it takes place after the defeat of Majin Buu.
DBZ Macky wrote:If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.
Because nobody is going to take seriously the show and it's really weird that 100 enemies appear in only 10 years. when in Z we had enemies every 5 years in average.
That's assuming EoZ is still happens or happens the way it did. We still haven't got any confirmation this is an interquel as far as I am aware just that it takes place after the defeat of Majin Buu.
We all can assume that EoZ won't be the same after everything that is happening, so it will be retconned or something, it's hard to think that Uub will be able to reach the god tier with a little training being a human. Although it was said that Uub was born and if everything is the same, then we are only one or two years after the defeat of Buu, and events like the birth of Pan and Uub are being retconned.
Araki wrote:
These days people start throwing the words "filler" and "silce of life" everytime characters aren't punching each other. No matter if something is moving the plot or there's character exposition.
Imagine if DB started these days. It would go like this:
"hey, what's happening in Dragon Ball today?"
"Goku wants Mutenroshi to train him, so he's bringing him some chicks now."
"oh i see, just slice of life filler then. skippable. "
DBZ Macky wrote:If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.
It's good from a business point of view but it's not consistant with how the story was before cause everyone were always changing through it which made it feel like a real wrold unlike now.
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