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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gokuden » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:09 am

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Apparently, he's an "Interference Type". Makes sense, I guess.

Hmm. I like Peter Kelamis and Sean Schemmel just the same as English Goku. I never really cared for Corlette.
Peter Kelamis' Goku sounded like a jerk to me, for some reason. The way he would curve his words, I felt like was getting mugged in Boston.

Sean Schemmel's Goku --- No Comment.

I don't agree with the first comment in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S728KfQaySY
But, everything else pretty much sums up how I feel about the dub Goku.
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To be perfectly honest, I couldn't care less about the fans a re-issue might alienate because if all they're concerned about is being able to scalp the people who were either unaware of the Dragon Boxes or couldn't afford them at the time, they're just leeches and deserve to have their greed backfire on them.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by dodge2461 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:22 am

I would love to see penguintruth's response to the video you linked.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:34 am

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Kid Buu wrote:Although I like Tenshinhan I'm starting to find him overrated. Most of his victories aren't even real victory like his "win" over Goku at the 22nd Budokai or his "win" over Semi-Perfect Cell.
Tenshinhan? Overrated...any proof?
+Beats Yamcha
+Beats Jackie Chun
-Considered his fight against Goku at the 22nd Budokai a loss.
-First villain battle involved him getting owned by some random fodder that Daimao spat out
-To make matters worse, Goku one-shot that same villain.
+Beats Cyborg Tao, a villain who Goku already humiliated.
-Goku makes a fool out of him in the 23rd Budokai
+Has the advantage over the Saibaman but Vegeta interrupted, making it a no-contest fight.
-Isn't even killed by a villain in the Saiyan Arc, killed by himself when he could have tried to team up with Piccolo/Kuririn when they interfered
+Beats Burter/Jeice in Filler
-Loses to Android #17 in one hit
-Would have been killed by Semi-Perfect Cell had Goku not saved him
-Loses to Cell Jr
-Either killed by Super Buu in one hit, or killed by Pure Buu off screen.

I realize that there is more to just winning fights in terms of being a good character but he always seems to be off the "butt-monkey" list when in reality he is also one. His only real highlights are from his debut and filler.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:38 am

I hated Ten since day one. His character along with Chaozu don't fit Dragonball IMO.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gokuden » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:01 am

dodge2461 wrote:I would love to see penguintruth's response to the video you linked.
He's around, he may just watch it, and give a response.

I loved it when Chaozu exploded, I've always hated that creepy person. Though, somewhere, somehow, there's a fanfic yaoi of him and Tien with launch or something, and disturbing pictures.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:18 pm

I don't hate Chaozu, but he really does bring nothing to the table really, other than being insanely creepy sometimes. I'm finding him especially so now that I've been playing Raging Blast 2.

Some other characters lay their with their eyes open after you beat them. But only Chaozu stares into your soul. Your soul. *shudders*
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:47 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I don't hate Chaozu, but he really does bring nothing to the table really, other than being insanely creepy sometimes. I'm finding him especially so now that I've been playing Raging Blast 2.

Some other characters lay their with their eyes open after you beat them. But only Chaozu stares into your soul. Your soul. *shudders*
I kind of agree. I don't hate or dislike Chaozu, but he's just there.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Rockman X » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:28 pm

I like Original Japanese voice actor of vegeta more than Chris sabat..

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Post by Ajay » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:40 pm

Rockman X wrote:I like Original Japanese voice actor of vegeta more than Chris sabat..
Is that really all that unpopular? I mean, perhaps amongst the general fanbase but certainly not on Kanzenshuu, I imagine.

Depends whether this thread refers to the community as a whole or just exclusive to this forum?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Rockman X » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:57 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:
Rockman X wrote:I like Original Japanese voice actor of vegeta more than Chris sabat..
Is that really all that unpopular? I mean, perhaps amongst the general fanbase but certainly not on Kanzenshuu, I imagine.

Depends whether this thread refers to the community as a whole or just exclusive to this forum?
I was talking about DBZ fans in general they all love chris sabat or that ocean dub vegeta but never acknowledge the awesome Japanese vegeta's voice acting.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:40 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I don't hate Chaozu, but he really does bring nothing to the table really, other than being insanely creepy sometimes. I'm finding him especially so now that I've been playing Raging Blast 2.

Some other characters lay their with their eyes open after you beat them. But only Chaozu stares into your soul. Your soul. *shudders*
It's not that I hate them, hate is way too strong a word. I just feel like Tenshinhan is always just put on such a high pedestal. People can't seem to buy in the idea that he might not be the strongest Earthling. Really, Tenshinhan doesn't even win a fight outside of filler after the 23rd Budokai unless you count his interrupted battle with the Saibaman.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:44 pm

But he's tall and stoic, while Krillin is short and used for comic relief. Tenshinhan >>>>>>>>>> all Earthlings
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheAldella » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:51 pm

I can't really prefer one dub over the other.
Every time something gets brought over here, it's always a glass half full attempt.
The music mediocrity in Kai, along with the random in-jokes and slacked pronunciations of the bigger words

The incomplete Ocean dub and silly edits

The awful script of Funimation's in-house dub, while improving toward the Cell games, sometimes even surpassing what was originally done

And the lackluster care taken of the japanese sources making it hard to bear for me in the Freeza saga
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:21 pm

TheAldella wrote:I can't really prefer one dub over the other.
Every time something gets brought over here, it's always a glass half full attempt.
The music mediocrity in Kai, along with the random in-jokes and slacked pronunciations of the bigger words

The incomplete Ocean dub and silly edits

The awful script of Funimation's in-house dub, while improving toward the Cell games, sometimes even surpassing what was originally done

And the lackluster care taken of the japanese sources making it hard to bear for me in the Freeza saga
Are you attempting to equate Kai's dub with their Z dub because there are a few moments that are less than ideal?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheAldella » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:40 pm

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TheAldella wrote:I can't really prefer one dub over the other.
Every time something gets brought over here, it's always a glass half full attempt.
The music mediocrity in Kai, along with the random in-jokes and slacked pronunciations of the bigger words

The incomplete Ocean dub and silly edits

The awful script of Funimation's in-house dub, while improving toward the Cell games, sometimes even surpassing what was originally done

And the lackluster care taken of the japanese sources making it hard to bear for me in the Freeza saga
Are you attempting to equate Kai's dub with their Z dub because there are a few moments that are less than ideal?
If you're saying that I forgot Kai's Jap dub, well, I assumed that it wouldn't matter much, because the cast sounds worse than they did Z-era, in one area or another.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:52 pm

ABED wrote:
TheAldella wrote:I can't really prefer one dub over the other.
Every time something gets brought over here, it's always a glass half full attempt.
The music mediocrity in Kai, along with the random in-jokes and slacked pronunciations of the bigger words

The incomplete Ocean dub and silly edits

The awful script of Funimation's in-house dub, while improving toward the Cell games, sometimes even surpassing what was originally done

And the lackluster care taken of the japanese sources making it hard to bear for me in the Freeza saga
Are you attempting to equate Kai's dub with their Z dub because there are a few moments that are less than ideal?
Or he agrees with everything has pros and cons.

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Post by ABED » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:21 pm

But not in equal amounts. Whatever negatives Kai is has, it has way more positives going for it, and definitely more than the Z dub.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheAldella » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:37 pm

ABED wrote:But not in equal amounts. Whatever negatives Kai is has, it has way more positives going for it, and definitely more than the Z dub.
I don't know about that. All the flaws that Kai Does have, make me even angrier because of what was done right.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheAldella » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:38 pm

I've got another one, though: I really really like the green hue to the Kai Buu saga.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:41 pm

I don't care for colors or cropping. Unless it's terrible. Never saw any release like that. Honestly think people here over analyze this.

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