Lord Frieza wrote:Am I the only one who has noticed that Toriyama really pulled one over on us again?
He makes Vermoud look like an evil clown, gives Marcarita a very familiar hair style and has the Pride Troopers look like a tough, nasty bunch. Then says their all actually champions of justice.
And we fell for it hook, line and sinker .
Yeah, i thought of that, too.
Still, if Goku is the big bad evil of this arc, and U11 is being set up as his main antagonists, then it only makes sense for them to follow an 'absolute justice" motto. Or else it would miss the point.
Whoa, whoa, whoa... You mean there's angels that actually give a shit about their universe?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Lord Frieza wrote:Am I the only one who has noticed that Toriyama really pulled one over on us again?
He makes Vermoud look like an evil clown, gives Marcarita a very familiar hair style and has the Pride Troopers look like a tough, nasty bunch. Then says their all actually champions of justice.
And we fell for it hook, line and sinker .
Something tells me with their universes, and lives (Excluding their angel), they'll do something dirty to survive. Hopefully they won''t and save the doomed universes somehow.
Lord Frieza wrote:Am I the only one who has noticed that Toriyama really pulled one over on us again?
He makes Vermoud look like an evil clown, gives Marcarita a very familiar hair style and has the Pride Troopers look like a tough, nasty bunch. Then says their all actually champions of justice.
And we fell for it hook, line and sinker .
I mean did he really? Those were just fan assumptions. We didn't know anything about them. Hell we stille don't even know a lot about them. The DB fanbase is impatient and overthinks a lot of things. :p
Ki Breaker wrote:
Come on it will be fun!
Now I want her like that
I guess so, its a cute dialect in its own way but its hard to understand sometimes.
Can you understand normal Japanese? Just wondering
To a degree yes not that good compared to Herms tho haha.
Its gonna be near impossible but I hope Vegeta doesnt go SSJB with his blue saiyan armor, he looks way too blue, his black RoF saiyan armor was perfect for his SSJB.
SansrivaaL wrote:
I guess so, its a cute dialect in its own way but its hard to understand sometimes.
Can you understand normal Japanese? Just wondering
To a degree yes not that good compared to Herms tho haha.
Its gonna be near impossible but I hope Vegeta doesnt go SSJB with his blue saiyan armor, he looks way too blue, his black RoF saiyan armor was perfect for his SSJB.
I'm afraid that it will look like shit with the new filter. Ajay made a video on Twitter about how the SSRose debut scene could have been with the filter, and Vegeta just hurts to my eyes.
ROF armor is the best outfit for Vegeta IMO (I like Boo arc outfit better by itself, but the black color is just perfect for SSB and also fits normal SS forms as well). Most of the characters had their best look in ROF.
English is not my first language. Please excuse my gramatical mistakes.
SansrivaaL wrote:
Its gonna be near impossible but I hope Vegeta doesnt go SSJB with his blue saiyan armor, he looks way too blue, his black RoF saiyan armor was perfect for his SSJB.
He is not training and not training did get goku real Rusty to the point of getting hurt by a bullet, Vegeta might have trouble going blue altogether, he wss just an SS in the op too.. but that's probably not gonna happen..
Either way, I have stopped caring about Vegeta now, he is way too boring right for me to give him any attention
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker
SansrivaaL wrote:My interest for U11 has dropped hard, I hope those bio's arent full legit, like a twist happens, I'm not into their whole justice and goody two shoes gig.
Tho Margarita is still bae.
Given how universe 9 played out they are full legit. Besides whats wrong with my universe being hard core for justice? Makes a change from the morally questionable lower universes like 6, 7 and 9.
If so then I'd lost all interest in them, I'm not a fan of characters thats all about justice and being good.
I hope Goku does a good job kicking their asses
... Isn't your favorite character Gohan ? That literally describes Great Saiyaman completely, and even his regular persona isn't too far off from that.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
U11 God of Destruction: Vermoud
Does not abide evil. The valiant efforts of the Pride Troopers send his heart aflutter.
This makes me think that Goku vs Vermoud will happen down the line given how much the show is painting Goku in a negative light.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Ki Breaker wrote:
Can you understand normal Japanese? Just wondering
To a degree yes not that good compared to Herms tho haha.
Its gonna be near impossible but I hope Vegeta doesnt go SSJB with his blue saiyan armor, he looks way too blue, his black RoF saiyan armor was perfect for his SSJB.
I'm afraid that it will look like shit with the new filter. Ajay made a video on Twitter about how the SSRose debut scene could have been with the filter, and Vegeta just hurts to my eyes.
ROF armor is the best outfit for Vegeta IMO (I like Boo arc outfit better by itself, but the black color is just perfect for SSB and also fits normal SS forms as well). Most of the characters had their best look in ROF.
Where can I find Goku Black going Rosè with the filter? I can't find it on Ajay's twitter
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”
What I consider canonical
Spoiler:
Dragon Ball Manga
Jaco: The Galactic Patrolman
Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return
Additional lore from Toriyama
Dragon Ball Daima
Lord Frieza wrote:
Given how universe 9 played out they are full legit. Besides whats wrong with my universe being hard core for justice? Makes a change from the morally questionable lower universes like 6, 7 and 9.
If so then I'd lost all interest in them, I'm not a fan of characters thats all about justice and being good.
I hope Goku does a good job kicking their asses
... Isn't your favorite character Gohan ? That literally describes Great Saiyaman completely, and even his regular persona isn't too far off from that.
All these rivalries with heros they missed a great chance of getting Saiyaman there, the "Villan's" son a hero in his universe fighting against them..
It would have been a gold mine
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker
Lord Frieza wrote:
Given how universe 9 played out they are full legit. Besides whats wrong with my universe being hard core for justice? Makes a change from the morally questionable lower universes like 6, 7 and 9.
If so then I'd lost all interest in them, I'm not a fan of characters thats all about justice and being good.
I hope Goku does a good job kicking their asses
... Isn't your favorite character Gohan ? That literally describes Great Saiyaman completely, and even his regular persona isn't too far off from that.
I see Gohan more as a guy thats cosplaying and acting rather than someone who takes justice and all that seriously like Toppo. You know like when Gohan talks in his saiyaman gig Nozawa's tone is funny? like Gohan's being on full time eighth grade syndrome (chuunibyou) rather than Toppo who's actually way too serious and upfront with his justice.
SansrivaaL wrote:
Its gonna be near impossible but I hope Vegeta doesnt go SSJB with his blue saiyan armor, he looks way too blue, his black RoF saiyan armor was perfect for his SSJB.
He is not training and not training did get goku real Rusty to the point of getting hurt by a bullet, Vegeta might have trouble going blue altogether, he wss just an SS in the op too.. but that's probably not gonna happen..
Either way, I have stopped caring about Vegeta now, he is way too boring right for me to give him any attention
I hope thats a sign that Vegeta only goes SSJ1-2, hell I'd be all good for even Rageta, just not Blugeta, just imagining Bluegeta with blue saiyan armor and the new filter... it wont be a good sight
MisteryOne wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Can you understand normal Japanese? Just wondering
To a degree yes not that good compared to Herms tho haha.
Its gonna be near impossible but I hope Vegeta doesnt go SSJB with his blue saiyan armor, he looks way too blue, his black RoF saiyan armor was perfect for his SSJB.
I'm afraid that it will look like shit with the new filter. Ajay made a video on Twitter about how the SSRose debut scene could have been with the filter, and Vegeta just hurts to my eyes.
ROF armor is the best outfit for Vegeta IMO (I like Boo arc outfit better by itself, but the black color is just perfect for SSB and also fits normal SS forms as well). Most of the characters had their best look in ROF.
This is what I'm afraid of.... Goku didnt look that bad with the new filters... but Vegeta's blue form in that blue saiyan armor... not my cup of tea.
Moving back to the Battle of the Gods designs seems to be a conscious decision, but I still wonder if it was Toriyama's intention or Toei's wish to do so.
Kagari wrote:Moving back to the Battle of the Gods designs seems to be a conscious decision, but I still wonder if it was Toriyama's intention or Toei's wish to do so.
The more characters get yonger as the series progresses the more it irritates me. Why can't they just age the kids at least?
SansrivaaL wrote:
To a degree yes not that good compared to Herms tho haha.
Its gonna be near impossible but I hope Vegeta doesnt go SSJB with his blue saiyan armor, he looks way too blue, his black RoF saiyan armor was perfect for his SSJB.
I'm afraid that it will look like shit with the new filter. Ajay made a video on Twitter about how the SSRose debut scene could have been with the filter, and Vegeta just hurts to my eyes.
ROF armor is the best outfit for Vegeta IMO (I like Boo arc outfit better by itself, but the black color is just perfect for SSB and also fits normal SS forms as well). Most of the characters had their best look in ROF.
Where can I find Goku Black going Rosè with the filter? I can't find it on Ajay's twitter
https://vid.me/Z87f
Personally, the only things I don't like are Rosé with aura and Blue Vegeta. The rest looks quite awesome IMO.
English is not my first language. Please excuse my gramatical mistakes.
Kagari wrote:Moving back to the Battle of the Gods designs seems to be a conscious decision, but I still wonder if it was Toriyama's intention or Toei's wish to do so.
The more characters get yonger as the series progresses the more it irritates me. Why can't they just age the kids at least?
It's that unending nostalgia grab spiral. The only way they can break out of it is if they stop focusing so hard on "Hey, remember this event/person/thing?".