DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vortex)

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai) Edits!

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:30 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Sorry about the sarcasm. I'm in a bad mood because Altus just announced another Persona 3 rehash. Atlus has seriously screwed MegaTen.
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Post by Kai_fan » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:00 pm

How the hell are EITHER of the versions (Nicktoons or CW) going to edit around certain things that simply can't be edited around?

I'm thinking of Boo's puppy, in particular.

The sniper shoots his puppy, with a rifle, and it's critical to the plot.

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Post by Savage68 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:23 pm

Kai_fan wrote:How the hell are EITHER of the versions (Nicktoons or CW) going to edit around certain things that simply can't be edited around?
You aren't too familiar with the lengths anime censorship can reach in North America, are you?

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:06 am

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Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Sorry about the sarcasm. I'm in a bad mood because Altus just announced another Persona 3 rehash. Atlus has seriously screwed MegaTen.
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Post by The Tori-bot » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:57 am

Kai_fan wrote:How the hell are EITHER of the versions (Nicktoons or CW) going to edit around certain things that simply can't be edited around?

I'm thinking of Boo's puppy, in particular.

The sniper shoots his puppy, with a rifle, and it's critical to the plot.

Be very afraid...
Maybe they'll take the Viz route and change them to LAZERZ.
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Post by Char Aznable » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:47 pm

The Tori-bot wrote:
Kai_fan wrote:How the hell are EITHER of the versions (Nicktoons or CW) going to edit around certain things that simply can't be edited around?

I'm thinking of Boo's puppy, in particular.

The sniper shoots his puppy, with a rifle, and it's critical to the plot.

Be very afraid...
Maybe they'll take the Viz route and change them to LAZERZ.
Oh dear, and the puppy just vaporizes as if it was a shot by a phaser.

Totally calling it now.

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Post by SaiyamanMS » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:46 pm

Char Aznable wrote:Oh dear, and the puppy just vaporizes as if it was a shot by a phaser.

Totally calling it now.
... And Buu uses his magic to rematerialise the puppy from thin air? ... Oh dear god, I could probably actually see that happening.

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Post by Big Momma » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:00 pm

One would think that being completely vaporized would be a bit worse than just being shot.
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Post by Puto » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:13 pm

The puppy is shot by a laser gun. Boo heals the injury. Nothing to it.
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Post by Blue » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:15 pm

"Set it to stun Chief"
"Heh Alright"
*PEW PEW PEW*
*Edits out blood and any real indication of injury*
"Quick Boo restore him"

Something to that extent is what I'm imagining. Hopefully it won't be that ridiculous. CN got away with shooting puppies didn't they?
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Post by Super Sonic » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:37 pm

You know, I never really understood the whole censoring guns into lazer blasters thing. Aren't lazer blasters more powerful than bullets unless they're concussive blasts with stun/kill settings? Kinda understand when they're in US cartoons because they look cool, but never understood censorship value.
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Sometimes it goes backwards too. Toon Disney/Disney XD edits episodes of Gargoyles, Batman and Superman that played on Fox, WB, and syndication with no problems.

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Post by Mewzard » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:54 pm

The problem is, it's possible for a kid to get his hands on a gun, a kid's not going to be able to find a phazer, lazer rifle, or anything like that.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:41 am

Mewzard wrote:The problem is, it's possible for a kid to get his hands on a gun, a kid's not going to be able to find a phazer, lazer rifle, or anything like that.
You're right! My rifle sits in a gun case in the living room, but I keep my Photon Blaster safely on the top shelf in the closet.

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Post by Mewzard » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:56 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Mewzard wrote:The problem is, it's possible for a kid to get his hands on a gun, a kid's not going to be able to find a phazer, lazer rifle, or anything like that.
You're right! My rifle sits in a gun case in the living room, but I keep my Photon Blaster safely on the top shelf in the closet.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:35 pm

I know, I was jokin'. :wink:

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Post by Blue » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:45 pm

I was always baffled by Saban's edit of that scene. Not only were they totally cool with a farmer shooting a regular gun, someone catching the bullet and tossing it back at him at full force but on top of that he lives and basically says "ow, that kind of hurt". Is that just me or does this seem like a worse message then "if a bullet hits you at full force you die"?
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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:50 pm

Blue wrote:I was always baffled by Saban's edit of that scene. Not only were they totally cool with a farmer shooting a regular gun, someone catching the bullet and tossing it back at him at full force but on top of that he lives and basically says "ow, that kind of hurt". Is that just me or does this seem like a worse message then "if a bullet hits you at full force you die"?
Just like how Nicktoons edited the beer that Goku wasn't going to drink. That would have been a good opportunity to be an "anti-alcohol" message, and instead Nicktoons edited it into a nice cold can of nothing.

[EDIT] corrected a factual error.
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:50 pm

Blue wrote:I was always baffled by Saban's edit of that scene. Not only were they totally cool with a farmer shooting a regular gun, someone catching the bullet and tossing it back at him at full force but on top of that he lives and basically says "ow, that kind of hurt". Is that just me or does this seem like a worse message then "if a bullet hits you at full force you die"?
He stated he was grabbing his "pea shooter" so it's all good in Saban's eyes.
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Post by Blue » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:58 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:
Blue wrote:I was always baffled by Saban's edit of that scene. Not only were they totally cool with a farmer shooting a regular gun, someone catching the bullet and tossing it back at him at full force but on top of that he lives and basically says "ow, that kind of hurt". Is that just me or does this seem like a worse message then "if a bullet hits you at full force you die"?
He stated he was grabbing his "pea shooter" so it's all good in Saban's eyes.
Granted it's a gun with weak fire power but it's still kind of saying "go and shoot people, no biggie" as opposed to "shooting people is very dangerous and will kill" Then again having Raditz catch a bullet with his bare hands would contradict this anyway (assuming the kid didn't really get Raditz was a subhuman beast and nobody could plausibly manage this.)

Again though, American TV regulations. Pretty random stuff.
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Post by Zep » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:27 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
Blue wrote:I was always baffled by Saban's edit of that scene. Not only were they totally cool with a farmer shooting a regular gun, someone catching the bullet and tossing it back at him at full force but on top of that he lives and basically says "ow, that kind of hurt". Is that just me or does this seem like a worse message then "if a bullet hits you at full force you die"?
Just like how Nicktoons (and Saban) edited the beer that Goku wasn't going to drink. That would have been a good opportunity to be an "anti-alcohol" message, and instead Nicktoons edited it into a nice cold can of nothing, and Saban deleted it entirely.
I dunno, is this really something we want to go back to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4uLkaR8Qkg

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