Detail Loss in the Orange Bricks: Not Seeing It

[dbgtFO]

By the by, where was this originally posted, because I couldn't find it anywhere?

He edited it, but it was the 5th post on page 2:
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... 9&start=24

[kei17]

There are people who don't really care some minor things. If we think such things are important to us, they can be minor and unmeaningful for those who are not anal. The detail on the footage is one of them. So is the audio quality of the DBoxes.

[Craddle]

you probably won't notice that much, especially if you're not anal about your video quality.

Anal? So fans who wont settle for a show they enjoy presented with missing details, lines, chopped off heads, feet, 20% of the of the image cropped, over saturated colors, ect are in your opinion anal?

How can I put this nicely? You're uninformed, if you think that's the case.

No, what I'm saying is that ringworm128 may not initially notice the loss of detail I described in my post as he may not be too anal about his video quality, meaning he wouldn't necessarily have studied up on what loss of detail is. He recognized that the background was "darker", but thought the character looked fine. It was clear that he thought that loss of detail was simply relative to the character. But I'm also not saying being anal about your video quality is a bad trait.

Besides, I was specifically talking about him and not the entire fandom in general. For that matter, I'd say that there are some very casual fans out there that have no idea that the "Orange Bricks" are an inferior product for all the reason you stated. There are many reasons why some fans settled for the season sets, and not being a videophile (someone who is concerned with achieving high-quality results in the recording and playback of movies, TV programs, etc. - a.k.a. being anal about video quality) may be one of those reasons. If people don't want to be informed about something, then so be it. They may notice something is weird with their season sets and jump online to find out what happened, but not everyone does that. Believe me, the people on this forum are much more educated about most of this than the very casual fan is, because they're part of this community. Just because you didn't settle for the season sets doesn't mean you're anal, just as much as it doesn't mean you're not anal. Settling for something has nothing to do with being anal, just mostly about caring. Simply put, there are many fans that just don't care, and therefore stay uninformed about it. And trust me, there are some people you just can't make care about it, no matter how hard you try. It is, what it is.

After re-reading his entire post and not just reading the portion that was taken out of context by ringworm, I see now what he was saying. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

[Pokewhiz7]

Not to mention you lose every single bit of detail in the top 10% and bottom 10% of the frame To me, that was worse than the DVNR and colors.

[Fionordequester]

Is it wrong that I bought the Orange Bricks, knowing full well about their flaws, just because Team Faulconer's music was on them?

[Pokewhiz7]

Is it wrong that I bought the Orange Bricks, knowing full well about their flaws, just because Team Faulconer's music was on them?

No, not at all.

[MCDaveG]

Is it wrong that I bought the Orange Bricks, knowing full well about their flaws, just because Team Faulconer's music was on them?

Troll? That's your business you bought them because of the score and aware of the flaws. I don't care about other people's things

[Fionordequester]

I know, I was just making a joke. Well, and I also bought them so that I could rip out the audio and make a sort of Dragon Ball Z Kai out of the Buu Saga.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

I started buying the orange bricks because I'd only just gotten into the series and trying to track down all of the singles was a mammoth task. The season sets were also the first time that we were getting certain Z episodes subbed (not that I cared or knew at the time) as most of the old PAL singles did't include the Japanese version (I believe the only singles that did were the Dragon Ball, the movies, the GT, the Buu saga and the 'Ultimate Uncut' ones). The DBZ Blu-Rays will actually be the first time a lot of episodes will be released subbed and in 4:3 (not counting Kai).
So like most people I was buying the orange bricks (thankfully I only own two) because I wanted a quick and easy way to track down and watch the series and I'd rather take crap video and subtitles over $20 for three dubbed only episodes...and then Kai came out.

[Metalwario64]

The DBZ Blu-Rays will actually be the first time a lot of episodes will be released subbed and in 4:3 (not counting Kai).

I don't get it. Why don't the Dragon Boxes count?

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

The DBZ Blu-Rays will actually be the first time a lot of episodes will be released subbed and in 4:3 (not counting Kai).

I don't get it. Why don't the Dragon Boxes count?

DragonBoxZTheMovies lives in New Zealand, according to his profile. The Dragon Boxes weren't released down there.

[Craddle]

The DBZ Blu-Rays will actually be the first time a lot of episodes will be released subbed and in 4:3 (not counting Kai).

I don't get it. Why don't the Dragon Boxes count?

I'm not sure why he's not counting them either. They are region 4 and NZ is r4.

DragonBoxZTheMovies lives in New Zealand, according to his profile. The DBoxes weren't released down there.

Import, like everyone else does? (It's not like customers in the US can buy them in stores either. Rarely did any store carry them.) He doesn't even need a region free dvd player.

[Pokewhiz7]

The DBZ Blu-Rays will actually be the first time a lot of episodes will be released subbed and in 4:3 (not counting Kai).

I don't get it. Why don't the Dragon Boxes count?

I'm not sure why he's not counting them either. They are region 4 and NZ is r4.

But they were not actually released in NZ.

[Craddle]

But they were not actually released in NZ.

Import, like everyone else does? (It's not like customers in the US can buy them in stores either. Rarely did any store carry them.) He doesn't even need a region free dvd player.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

Import, like everyone else does?

He was referring specifically to what was officially released within his country. In which case, something that has to be imported from another country doesn't count.

[Pokewhiz7]

Shipping to NZ is probably very expensive.

[Craddle]

Import, like everyone else does?

I believe he was referring specifically to what was officially released within his country. In which case, something that had to be imported from another country doesn't count.

Whether it was released officially in his area or not. The discs are still labeled region 4. He still lives within region 4. Therefore the discs are playable in his area. Just because he has to order them online like nearly every other costumer on the planet, does not make them "not count."

Anyways, we are straying really far off-topic here. Were supposed to be talking about the Orange Bricks. Just let him explain himself when he reads the posts. Rather then everyone speculating on what he was thinking.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

It is, and I don't exactly have money oozing from my shorts, and finding a seller that ships internationally on Amazon is a real bitch (I have looked at buying from Rightstuf but I haven't gotten round to signing up). I have imported the 4th part of Dragon Ball Kai due to the scandal, but I don't really like taking money from my parents. Time to look for a job as soon as I turn 15 I reckon.

EDIT: Yeah I was talking about what was released here in NZ.

[Pokewhiz7]

He said that it would be the first time it would be released in NZ. Whether or not it can play in his player is irrelevant; they were not released in NZ. If a Blu-Ray only came out in Japan, it obviously wouldn't be in America, but we both share region A, so would you say that that was released in America?

[Craddle]

It is, and I don't exactly have money oozing from my shorts, and finding a seller that ships internationally on Amazon is a real bitch (I have looked at buying from Rightstuf but I haven't gotten round to signing up). I have imported the 4th part of Dragon Ball Kai due to the scandal, but I don't really like taking money from my parents. Time to look for a job as soon as I turn 15 I reckon.

EDIT: Yeah I was talking about what was released here in NZ.

It's almost no point in bothering with them now anyway. If it was hard to find an international shipper before. It will be nearly impossible now.

If your interested in getting something to improve your collection over the Orange Bricks, I'd suggest the new Levels. They are Region B as well. I think you'd still have to import them though. (Not sure.) But at least they will be easier to obtain.