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by Daimo-Rukiri » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:19 pm
Gyt Kaliba wrote:See, that's just it. I see people say that all the time, but as long as the DVD is well made and had a good source material...I really don't see that much difference. I honestly don't. Maybe it's because my eyes aren't the best in the world (I do wear glasses), but I just don't see it.
That's not to say I'm not ever going to switch to Bluray though. I do appreciate the fact that they're apparently a lot harder to scratch. So once I have the spare cash and nothing else I'm wanting to spend it on at the time (or when DVD's really are no more), then I will get a Bluray player. Chances are though, I'll only buy things I don't already have, or Blurays that come with more extras, though - I'll still see no need to pick up Bluray copies of stuff I already have on DVD.
The difference is resolution, blu-ray is capable of 1920x1080 where as DVDs are stuck at 720x480 or just standard definition. So HD media on DVDs is only degrading as they have to heavily compress it, lower the resolution just to fit on a DVD and the audio is usually the messed up part... lossless audio does not exist on dvds, does on blu-ray.
Doesn't matter if the source is good and pristine, DVDs will always look worse to better formats and with 4K already here we're going to see a new optical media soon as streaming just doesn't cut it.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:33 pm
That's what I'm trying to say though - DVD's, bar a few that were very poorly made, always look and sound fine to me. I don't see anything looking bad or hear anything sounding bad. I guess I'm just not into this technical side of things like a lot of you are though, and primarily just want to enjoy whatever I'm watching. So long as it looks and sounds good enough for me to enjoy it, I'm fine. I don't sit there and think 'My, I bet this could look and sound even better elsewhere, now I'm just completely pulled out of the experience!' I mean.
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by BlazingFiddlesticks » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:56 pm
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:Doesn't matter if the source is good and pristine, DVDs will always look worse to better formats and with 4K already here we're going to see a new optical media soon as streaming just doesn't cut it.
At last someone gets this!
But then Gyt's point goes back to mine; some people just don't care, given how presentable DVDs can be made. Blu-Ray is a huge improvement in presentation, but DVD isn't awful enough to require it.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:03 pm
BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:But then Gyt's point goes back to mine; some people just don't care, given how presentable DVDs can be made. Blu-Ray is a huge improvement in presentation, but DVD isn't awful enough to require it.
Which, in short, is exactly the point I'm trying to make myself.
I'm not denying that Blurays look better - with so many people saying that they do, it's clear that I'm in the minority that just doesn't see or hear it. And I'm fine with that - my statements are just my opinions on it, I'm not trying to say their facts.
My only issue is this...I dunno, maybe it's just the way some people say it rather than how they actually mean it, but it sometimes comes off as if some are saying DVDs are no better than coasters now, and that's just not true. I stand by what I said, I don't remember anyone ever coming across this way when things switched over from VHS to DVD - but maybe the improvement in that change-over was just much more obvious.
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by BirdieWatcher » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:17 pm
Something new for Funimation to cancel before completing.
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by Kingdom Heartless » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:08 am
Funimation's process of making fans complain and assume the worst:
Step 1: Announce new Dragon Ball Release.
Step 2: There is no Step 2.
Step 3: See Step 2.
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by ShadowDude112 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:13 am
BirdieWatcher wrote:Something new for Funimation to cancel before completing.
They only cancelled 2 releases. The Ultimate Uncuts and the Blu-rays. The UUs because 3-4 episode DVDs were becoming outdated and the Blu-rays because they weren't cost efficient.
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by andrewtuell1991 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:43 am
The only thing that could ever make me buy the Dragon Ball series on Blu-Ray is a higher sound quality for the Japanese voice track and Kikuchi score. Otherwise I have no intention of seeing some badly drawn, badly drawn-out farce of an anime in HD.
And to echo what others have been saying, Dragon Box and Dragon Box ZA MOVIES please Funimation
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by qjz123 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:10 am
I'm so excited for this release, I guess Funimations blu ray survey got a lot of good replies. I hope we get a remaster similar to what the Level sets had. I wonder when they're going to officially announce it.
Kendamu wrote:AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.
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by Daimo-Rukiri » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:16 am
I still think it's going to be a more refined process where they can charge what they were before. The blu-rays did sell and were selling but it wasn't effective in house, didn't they go through the costs of production or just say... it's freaking DBZ!!!
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by jjgp1112 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:20 am
Well in that case, you oughta just tell FUNimation to get better masters for source material. They didn't do anything to mess with the colors this time around, that's just how their source looks.
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by Kojiro Sasaki » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:48 am
jjgp1112 wrote:They didn't do anything to mess with the colors this time around, that's just how their source looks.
Are you sure?
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by qjz123 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:11 pm
That's a screenshot from episode 1 which looks far worse than the other episodes in the set.
Kendamu wrote:AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.
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by eledoremassis02 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:31 pm
I'd also compare with the 1.2 sets since those looked a tiny bit better as well.
Man, I can't wait for an announcement / trailer! I hope it's done right!!
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by Daimo-Rukiri » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:53 pm
Kojiro Sasaki wrote:jjgp1112 wrote:They didn't do anything to mess with the colors this time around, that's just how their source looks.
Are you sure?
Yes, almost every release with these masters has messed up blacks but it's something the color correction could fix if done correctly but again this isn't a movie house so don't expect that.
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by Aoi » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:55 pm
andrewtuell1991 wrote:The only thing that could ever make me buy the Dragon Ball series on Blu-Ray is a higher sound quality for the Japanese voice track and Kikuchi score.
This. I loved hearing the Japanese track on 5.1. Also, I thought the picture quality was stunningly good. Even with the grain.
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by Fulicer » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:58 pm
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
Yes, almost every release with these masters has messed up blacks but it's something the color correction could fix if done correctly but again this isn't a movie house so don't expect that.
Also, I doubt TOEI will ship them the original film negatives and risk damaging or losing them along the trip.
The best option is to let TOEI restore the episodes it and give FUNimation digital copies. They probably have more financial resources at their disposal. Assuming they remaster it and give FUNi copies that is.
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by OutlawTorn » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:31 pm
I'm going to wait to see just how these sets are presented and whether we can be reasonably sure that these sets won't be canceled after the first set comes out.
Gonstead wrote:Bardo117 wrote:How is ANYBODY fully content with DvD ? There's no way people are buying an HDTV just to have a a DVD player running on it, that's just stupid
Well for one, there are us people who cannot AFFORD HDTV's and the larger price of Blu-Ray over DVD's.
Of course Blu-ray has a higher price than DVD, with most Blu-ray releases also containing a DVD copy and special features being phased off of DVDs in favour of Blu-ray. When you think about it, though, Blu-ray isn't really
that much more expensive than DVD, especially when you compare the prices at similar stages in their lifetime. It wasn't uncommon to find DVD releases for $30 plus, whereas you find Blu-ray releases for roughly that and it often includes
two formats. If you look around, you can find Blu-ray only titles for $10 or less.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:18 pm
OutlawTorn wrote:Of course Blu-ray has a higher price than DVD, with most Blu-ray releases also containing a DVD copy and special features being phased off of DVDs in favour of Blu-ray.
Ugh, don't get me started on that one either. Few things get me more annoyed then when I do pick up a DVD/Bluray combo, only to discover they put pretty much all of the extras (if not literally all) on the Bluray disc only, leaving the DVD copy that I'm actually watching to have nothing but the film itself. Bleh.
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