The Physics of DB

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Re: The Physics of DB

Post by ABED » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:04 pm

Mr. Judge, I can't remember if you answered, but what is your purpose in going into this much depth about how the physics of DB? No one believed they were anywhere even close to scientifically accurate. Is it just something you find interesting and want to talk about with likeminded fans, or are you trying to poke holes in the logic of Toriyama's story?
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Re: The Physics of DB

Post by Mr.Judge » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:10 pm

ABED wrote:Mr. Judge, I can't remember if you answered, but what is your purpose in going into this much depth about how the physics of DB? No one believed they were anywhere even close to scientifically accurate. Is it just something you find interesting and want to talk about with likeminded fans, or are you trying to poke holes in the logic of Toriyama's story?
The point I was trying to make is that DB characters are way more powerful than the weight numbers shown during their training.

I came across many threads over here, where Members try to go by the numbers given by Akira Toriyama to gauge strength of DB.

I also addressed that point in this post

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Re: The Physics of DB

Post by ABED » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:58 pm

They aren't stronger as much as Toriyama is a terrible physicist.
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Re: The Physics of DB

Post by Mr.Judge » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:38 pm

ABED wrote:They aren't stronger as much as Toriyama is a terrible physicist.
Hmm.

Jumping upto clouds and throwing pillar across 2300 Km indicate otherwise.

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Re: The Physics of DB

Post by ABED » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:41 pm

Mr.Judge wrote:
ABED wrote:They aren't stronger as much as Toriyama is a terrible physicist.
Hmm.

Jumping upto clouds and throwing pillar across 2300 Km indicate otherwise.
No it wouldn't. DB doesn't have even remotely real world physics.
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Re: The Physics of DB

Post by Mr.Judge » Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:02 am

ABED wrote:No it wouldn't. DB doesn't have even remotely real world physics.
You are basically making a case that the physics of DB changes every chapter.I don't know where you are going with that.

I am just equating two different panels in manga and making a conclusion based on that. The physics don't matter when Akira Toriyama is showing contradictory information on two different panels overtime.

i)
Son-Goku in first chapter lifted a car overhead and threw it.
During Kame-sennin Training arc, Son-Goku has to train with a measly 20 kg.

Are you implying that for the first chapter, the gravity of earth was less compared to gravity in Kame-Sennin training arc.

ii)
Kuririn trained with 20 kg and 40 Kg turtle shell during the Kame-Sennin training arc.
Then Kuririn as grown-up Teen had trouble lifting 20 kg boots of Son-Goku during the 23rd Budokai Tenkaichi.

Going by your explanation, the gravity of Earth again changed during 23rd Budokai Tenkaichi, so Kuririn could not lift 20 Kg , the weight he could easily train during earlier arcs.

The physics in fiction is always equated to real life physics for basic stuff. That is how fictional arguments are made because it is always equated or compared against a standard basis which is Real World physics for simple and basic stuff like Weights.

I am not making a case for complex stuff concerning all the unusual, impossible, and sometimes absurd moments in the anime/manga where real-world physics do not seem to apply. But instead only making a case for basic stuff related to weights and muscles strength which contradict on panel evidence.

This is my last reply to you on matter concerning Akira Toriyama portraying strength for his characters and attaching a number to such feats and have provided 2 examples as proof in this post of such contradictory information shown on panels.

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Re: The Physics of DB

Post by ABED » Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:43 am

Of course he's showing contradictory physics, he's not a physicist. He just picked random numbers out of thin air that sounded big, and things that made his characters look strong without thought or knowledge of how much power in the real world it would take to pull off those feats.
The physics in fiction is always equated to real life physics for basic stuff.
No it's not, it's a fictional universe, so the rules are whatever the author sets up.
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