Bussani wrote:The 3rd just felt like even the writers didn't know what direction it wanted to go in. I've heard rumors that the director didn't want Venom to be in it and he was shoehorned in, which would explain why he was used so poorly.
Not only Venom, but everything
about the black costume was just poorly executed. As soon as they opened the movie with the meteor entering the Earth’s atmosphere they were off to a bad start. First of all, that doesn’t even make any sense; are we really meant to believe that an amorphous blob somehow commandeered some falling space debris and set a course for Earth—and that the lovey couple were somehow too oblivious to notice? Secondly, it breaks existing continuity (or rather, a really convenient tie-in to the last movie and comic book canon) by making John Jameson’s space trip a separate, unrelated incident… comic book fans will of course point out that he is the one who
uncovers the symbiote and accidentally brings it back to Earth, where it spreads to Peter. I mean, they completely set it up in the previous film (or at least I thought they did), only to scrap his character completely. Then, they make the black suit this actual loose alternative to Spidey’s red-and-blue threads… part of the reason it overpowers him is because it’s
always on him—merely
taking the shape of other clothes—and thus affecting his thoughts. But, in the movie, it’s treated more like Frodo and the Ring, like it’s calling out to him and enticing him with the reward of power.
And then with Venom, despite people saying stuff like “oh he’s too skinny”, that part wasn’t actually all that bad—he was
much skinnier in the earlier comics than he is now; only thing is, Topher Grace has no meat on him. As a director, I would have made muscling up a requirement for the role with a guy like him. He was literally just a Parker clone; in fact, I think he would have made for a much better Peter Parker overall than Tobey, what with the Eric Foreman demeanor down pat. But, the point is, Eddie Brock is more of a jock-turned-photographer than “just another photographer”, and he needed both the physicality and personality to match. I don’t think Topher is incapable of that role, he just wasn’t pushed enough; hell even with the same directing and better writing it would have played better. And then as Venom, he usually
stays Venom for quite some time, Eddie Brock really only comes up to breathe in conflicted situations, where he’s gaining control over the symbiote… not to taunt Parker or whatever.
Anyway, sorry for the fanboy rant, but it’s this pervasive inattention to detail and lack of respect for prior art that really plagues most comic book movies, and for me, those are the reasons DBE will suffer, even if it’s an enjoyable movie otherwise (like the Spider-Man movies have been).
DNA wrote:Even in the 80's cartoons, I remember him lifting half a building ready to chuck it at Tombstone and end is misery for good.
Tombstone: "You can't do that! You're one of the good guys!"
Spidey: "Can't I? Just watch me!"
You mean the ’90s cartoon. The ’80s version was much tamer than that.
And by the way, Peter is the shy guy who looks a bit nerdish, I think he qualifies more as a shy guy then a nerd. Bruce Banner is the flat out emperor nerdmeister, I don't see that in the movies either.
No, Peter is significantly nerdy; I mean this is the guy who aces every test, gets picked on at school, goes to science exhibitions… which is what bugs me about the movies: those aspects of him are hardly ever explored. They just substituted all of that with “being awkward”, which I
suppose was intended to make him more relatable, or something, but it hardly fits the bill.
DNA wrote:Vulture would be so much of a better character for this type of movie. And it would lead for a demand for the next movie to conclude the dark uniform storyline and bring out Venom.
Yes and yes! I would love to see Vulture in the next installment (or Lizard… I mean, c’mon how long are they going to tease us with Dylan Baker as
just Connors?)
Snail wrote:Anywho, this is a Dragonball board right?
It is, but it’s nice to take a break every once in a while. This
constant Dragon Ball talk really can’t be healthy…
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Anyway, maybe this image might've been a vital sign of the amaaaazing live-action movie pissing all over us two years later? 
