precita wrote:I'm not even sure if the Super Dragonballs CAN wish back destroyed universes. Why would they be able to negate what the God of everything can do?
Champa said the Super Dragon Balls have no limits, look at Zamasu, he wished for immortality and he was that broken that Zenoh was needed to get rid of him.
But that's the point...the super dragonballs power was overridden by Zeno.
precita wrote:I'm not even sure if the Super Dragonballs CAN wish back destroyed universes. Why would they be able to negate what the God of everything can do?
Champa said the Super Dragon Balls have no limits, look at Zamasu, he wished for immortality and he was that broken that Zenoh was needed to get rid of him.
But that's the point...the super dragonballs power was overridden by Zeno.
Zeno had to destroy an entire existence to do that. So we know he can destroy something created by the Super Dragonballs. But there has nothing that has said that the Super Dragonballs can't fix what Zeno has destroyed.
Normal Dragonballs can't beat beings more powerful than they are, but it can fix things and revive people those beings have killed or destroyed.
perucho1990 wrote:
Champa said the Super Dragon Balls have no limits, look at Zamasu, he wished for immortality and he was that broken that Zenoh was needed to get rid of him.
But that's the point...the super dragonballs power was overridden by Zeno.
Zeno had to destroy an entire existence to do that. So we know he can destroy something created by the Super Dragonballs. But there has nothing that has said that the Super Dragonballs can't fix what Zeno has destroyed.
Normal Dragonballs can't beat beings more powerful than they are, but it can fix and revive people those beings have killed or destroyed.
I think it will be cautioned against reviving the destroyed universes, simply because its not like Zeno can't just re-destroy them the very instant they wish them back. They're going to have to be strategic in how they use the SDB. In fact, the simplest solution is to do something with Zeno, change his mind in some way. Maybe wish for that.
But that's the point...the super dragonballs power was overridden by Zeno.
Zeno had to destroy an entire existence to do that. So we know he can destroy something created by the Super Dragonballs. But there has nothing that has said that the Super Dragonballs can't fix what Zeno has destroyed.
Normal Dragonballs can't beat beings more powerful than they are, but it can fix and revive people those beings have killed or destroyed.
I think it will be cautioned against reviving the destroyed universes, simply because its not like Zeno can't just re-destroy them the very instant they wish them back. They're going to have to be strategic in how they use the SDB. In fact, the simplest solution is to do something with Zeno, change his mind in some way. Maybe wish for that.
You're right about that. I can't imagine it would be so simple as to wish everything back anyway.
Lord Frieza wrote:How about instead of undoing Zen-Oh's destruction.....why not wish for all the inhabited worlds to be moved to Universe 7 or 11?
That way there will be destruction but most will survive...save the GoD and the Kaioshin.
It's not the "worlds" he hates. It's the mortals that live in them. They are the reason for the destruction. You just traded one albatross for another, Zeno would just kill everybody.
At the very least it'll be a fun fight to watch, especially now that Vegeta's motivation is back. I don't even care if he loses, I'm just happy he's back.
perucho1990 wrote:
Anothe couple of things nobody has point it out.
Hit calling Champa "The God of Destruction" and not Champa-Sama, calling Zenoh by his name instead of Zenoh-Sama(with honorifics). I wonder if Toei will bring back the whole "Not wanting to the Gods pawns" subplot.
If not a single one of tournament participants or spectators (gods, mortals and angels) at least attempts to somehow kill or erase Zen-oh(s) to free the multiverse of him or save themsevles, I will considering it the core failure of Super's story arc.
Basaku wrote:
If not a single one of tournament participants or spectators (gods, mortals and angels) at least attempts to somehow kill or erase Zen-oh(s) to free the multiverse of him or save themsevles, I will considering it the core failure of Super's story arc.
As for now the only probable choices are Mojito(he seemed mad in episode 92), Frieza(his interactions with the Zenos should be gold), I want to see Daishinkan showing feats on why he is one of the Top 5 fighters in the whole Multiverse, oh and speaking of that arent we going to learn about who are the other 4 strong fighters?
Basaku wrote:
If not a single one of tournament participants or spectators (gods, mortals and angels) at least attempts to somehow kill or erase Zen-oh(s) to free the multiverse of him or save themsevles, I will considering it the core failure of Super's story arc.
As for now the only probable choices are Mojito(he seemed mad in episode 92), Frieza(his interactions with the Zenos should be gold), I want to see Daishinkan showing feats on why he is one of the Top 5 fighters in the whole Multiverse, oh and speaking of that arent we going to learn about who are the other 4 strong fighters?
I've been wondering this as well...I know the Manga said he WAS #1, but even putting in him in the top 5 there's still 4 others very strong. Who the hell could they be? One of the Angels, GoDs, or some other unknown player.
I always the other 4 were the Angels from the Universes that were excluded from the Top, and Martinu being Daishinkans wife, if you compare her with the other Angels she looks like the most veteran Angel
There has been a lot of Caulifla/Kale/Cabba popping out in the last weeks, and I'm expecting them to increase drastically after episode 92 because we will finally get Kale speak, any guess who will voice her?
You know, it would pretty interesting if Cabba decide to pull out a Vegeta and decide to act like prick, insulting Caulifla, telling he will murder her family that kind stuff in order to trigger her transformation. I would appreciate more his character better than just being a generic good guy with morals and principles.
perucho1990 wrote:I hope Yamcha makes it, I think someone else mentioned in this site but what if Roshi cant beat his pervert weakness and he is ruled out of the ToP? Yamcha could sneak in.
I'm sure Beerus would remember Yamcha giving him the win in the baseball game
That would be great. Not a fan of Yamcha, but he should be on Roshi's place all along. He actually being in the team would compensate those mean spirited jokes in the latest episodes.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Something with the words of "I will kill your brother, your gang and make Kale my future wife" . Thing is...isnt Cabba(in base) stronger than Caulifla? If so then why is he scared of Caulifla? because the typical lolwomen are scary?
perucho1990 wrote:Something with the words of "I will kill your brother, your gang and make Kale my future wife" . Thing is...isnt Cabba(in base) stronger than Caulifla? If so then why is he scared of Caulifla? because the typical lolwomen are scary?
It could also just be that Cabba is a fairly timid and well mannered boy and has a rough time interacting with someone like Caulifla who is rude with an intimidating thug personality. I wasn't so good with those kinds of people either.
perucho1990 wrote:Something with the words of "I will kill your brother, your gang and make Kale my future wife" . Thing is...isnt Cabba(in base) stronger than Caulifla? If so then why is he scared of Caulifla? because the typical lolwomen are scary?
If Cabba tries this, I can only see it ending with Caulifla laughing in his face. Even when he goes Super Saiyan, she doesn't seem intimidated by him in the slightest.
I wound want to see Cabbas reaction if the preview really hints Caulifla will launch herself toward Cabba, and he blushes... they could fuck up his character by making him look like the biggest geek in the series.
perucho1990 wrote:I wound want to see Cabbas reaction if the preview really hints Caulifla will launch herself toward Cabba, and he blushes... they could fuck up his character by making him look like the biggest geek in the series.
Isn't that how he's been portrayed since the beginning? lol
perucho1990 wrote:I wound want to see Cabbas reaction if the preview really hints Caulifla will launch herself toward Cabba, and he blushes... they could fuck up his character by making him look like the biggest geek in the series.
Isn't that how he's been portrayed since the beginning? lol
Seconded. Hard.
I always thought Cabba was just U6's Gohan anyway:
-Polite mannerisms
-Love of justice and heroes
-Talk with Renso about Clauifla reveals women confuse him
-Strong desire to impress his ex-villain mentor who kicks the crap out of him in their initial training session to awaken a hidden power he didn't know he had.
-HAS an ex-villain turned good mentor
What exactly would they be fucking up by him continuing to be Gohan's skinnier clone by having him continue to showcase that girls get him flustered?
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