What was that? SSJ2 Caulifla is on the same level as berserk Kale, who is on the same level as Ribrianne and Jiren? I don't believe that for a second. If Cabba and Caulifla are about equal in base, then they're about equal to Champa arc Vegeta in base, who'll have to use Blue to combat Jiren if we take Toppo's words at face value. The statement, in that case, seems to imply that 2 is equal to Blue, which is nonsense. For the sake of the little reasonable power scaling Super still has left, I really hope Caulifla isn't equal to Kale.
Probably Kanzenshuu's biggest Bulla fangirl. Current avatar: DBU Bulla as Sailor Princess Sadala, based on Sailor Moon: Cosmic Dance
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Alruneia wrote:What was that? SSJ2 Caulifla is on the same level as berserk Kale, who is on the same level as Ribrianne and Jiren? I don't believe that for a second. If Cabba and Caulifla are about equal in base, then they're about equal to Champa arc Vegeta in base, who'll have to use Blue to combat Jiren if we take Toppo's words at face value. The statement, in that case, seems to imply that 2 is equal to Blue, which is nonsense. For the sake of the little reasonable power scaling Super still has left, I really hope Caulifla isn't equal to Kale.
We don't know how strong Caulifla is compared to Cabba
We don't know how strong Cabba is right now
We don't know how SS2 Caulifla compares to Berserk Kale
We don't know how strong Ribrianne is
We don't know how strong Berserk Kale is
Alruneia wrote:What was that? SSJ2 Caulifla is on the same level as berserk Kale, who is on the same level as Ribrianne and Jiren? I don't believe that for a second. If Cabba and Caulifla are about equal in base, then they're about equal to Champa arc Vegeta in base, who'll have to use Blue to combat Jiren if we take Toppo's words at face value. The statement, in that case, seems to imply that 2 is equal to Blue, which is nonsense. For the sake of the little reasonable power scaling Super still has left, I really hope Caulifla isn't equal to Kale.
I dont think those magazine shots back then were referring that they were at the same level of power, they were just being hyped up as characters who will play a bigger (?) role compared to the other new ones.
SSJ2 Caulifla and LSSJ Kale seem to be equal, and wait.. didnt the V Jump say that Kale will be in the same level as Jiren and Brianne?
said. Probably should've put the quote in to begin with.
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I can't wait for Caulifa to fight Kale. I really, really, really hope they something intriguing with Kale's LSSJ form. As I've said before, I would be very interested if they take a Jekyll and Hyde direction with her character using the transformation. As far as Sidra "assassination" side-plot goes... meh. I'm not majorly invested, but I still want to see how it plays out.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Alruneia wrote:
SSJ2 Caulifla and LSSJ Kale seem to be equal, and wait.. didnt the V Jump say that Kale will be in the same level as Jiren and Brianne?
Something tells me This is Super Saiyan Rage
[spoiler][/spoiler]
It's just very similar. Also, Trunks buff's up before going SSR. So I feel like when she takes control of this form she will
be as strong as Future Trunks, which is God Level.
I'm guessing these Saiyan girls are as strong as Vegeta's base in U6 Arc (which is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks) so it's not too far fetched.
Since their based forms are so damn powerful because they don't rely on transformations, these transformations take them to the next level.
Yomi wrote:
Something tells me This is Super Saiyan Rage
[spoiler][/spoiler]
It's just very similar. Also, Trunks buff's up before going SSR. So I feel like when she takes control of this form she will
be as strong as Future Trunks, which is God Level.
Whoah, that's a good observation. If Gohan won't get it, may Kale do it. I like his!
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Alruneia wrote:What was that? SSJ2 Caulifla is on the same level as berserk Kale, who is on the same level as Ribrianne and Jiren? I don't believe that for a second. If Cabba and Caulifla are about equal in base, then they're about equal to Champa arc Vegeta in base, who'll have to use Blue to combat Jiren if we take Toppo's words at face value. The statement, in that case, seems to imply that 2 is equal to Blue, which is nonsense. For the sake of the little reasonable power scaling Super still has left, I really hope Caulifla isn't equal to Kale.
What the hell...?
On the same level as Jiren who is said to be even stronger than Toppo?
Also, when was Brianne said to rival Jiren, in the first place?
I must see that scan!
English is not my first language!
I'm still waiting for Dragon Ball in Super...
I don't care about Freeza, but I'm excited for the summary Herms translated for this weekend's episode; Vegeta argues with Gokû? Yes.
I do hope that Kale's not just "daughter of Brolli" personality wise post transformation. I don't want her to be a complete copy; give her some personality distinction from Brolli.
SansrivaaL wrote:Ajay posted this in the animation thread, an animator on DBS did it.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
I sense something in the making
Looks very nice.
It could be one of the reasons why they are buffing Caulifla, she will face Goku at the ToP.
I hope they also tease us Vegeta will get Kale, although they would rather go with Gohan vs Kale because Gohan vs Broly drew a nice revenue in Movie 10.
SansrivaaL wrote:Ajay posted this in the animation thread, an animator on DBS did it.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
I sense something in the making
"Oh no" is right. Could you imagine the carnage that would ensure if they become sparring partners, or even worse, good friends?
The horror...
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.