Mnich wrote:Akira Toriyama said that he watched movies with Broly, now I wonder if he will bring back scared Vegeta "oh no, we don't stand a chance, this is Legendary Super Saiyan". It was so out of character but I have a weird feeling that Toriyama might actually like it
By the way, are they gonna retell this movie in DBS anime? What do you think? I hope they won't.
He didn't react that way to Kale using the same transformation. I mean, he warned Goku to be cautious, but he wasn't afraid to fight her. Why would he be more intimidated when Broly does the same thing?
Broly is fighting two SSB's as a SS..
He can also go LSS..
Pretty scary stuff if you ask me
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker
ZeroNeonix wrote:He didn't react that way to Kale using the same transformation. I mean, he warned Goku to be cautious, but he wasn't afraid to fight her. Why would he be more intimidated when Broly does the same thing?
That's right, but that was before Toriyama took Broly under his wings. He said he's gonna keep some things to not disappoint Broly's fans.
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I don't know why people didn't like Vegeta's reaction in movie 8... I mean his reaction was priceless, even the prince of all Saiyans feared the legendary Super Saiyan, he kneeled down, he was paralyzed and that made Broly look like a real beast, threat, ledendary.
I think Paragus looked a lot better in his traditional Saiyan gear.
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"Don't take pleasure in destruction!" / "I will not let you destroy my world!"
A true hero goes beyond not the limits of power, but the limits that divide countries and people.
BrolyKale wrote:I don't know why people didn't like Vegeta's reaction in movie 8... I mean his reaction was priceless, even the prince of all Saiyans feared the legendary Super Saiyan, he kneeled down, he was paralyzed and that made Broly look like a real beast, threat, ledendary.
I know right, I guess Vegeta can't show any other emotion besides angry midget and super dad apparently.
Mnich wrote:I mean, he could've been scared in movie 8, but not that long and he was even treated like a trash by Piccolo. That part was hilarious.
That's the interesting part, Vegeta was so scared he couldn't do much. He is the only one who realized how strong and brutal Broly was. He also tried to fight him, but then he got OS and that's when he lost all hope.
Ki Breaker wrote:Then Paragus will be the proof that Saiyans too had geniuses who were into things other than battle
Seein his scars we say he's into both lol
DragonBallFoodie wrote:I think Paragus looked a lot better in his traditional Saiyan gear.
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I agree, but WTF with Broly face in this art?
Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Seriously? Please do tell us what colors and clothes a man should wear, then.
Yes seriously, he looks ridiculous with the purple tights. The colour scheme looks all wrong, it's like a fan made design.
I ain't even that fond of the character but Broly was always popular because he was big hulking manly monster. Him wearing women's purple tights isn't a good look for him at all.
Mnich wrote:Akira Toriyama said that he watched movies with Broly, now I wonder if he will bring back scared Vegeta "oh no, we don't stand a chance, this is Legendary Super Saiyan". It was so out of character but I have a weird feeling that Toriyama might actually like it
By the way, are they gonna retell this movie in DBS anime? What do you think? I hope they won't.
He didn't react that way to Kale using the same transformation. I mean, he warned Goku to be cautious, but he wasn't afraid to fight her. Why would he be more intimidated when Broly does the same thing?
Broly is fighting two SSB's as a SS..
He can also go LSS..
Pretty scary stuff if you ask me
We don't know what the black hair SS style w/SS4 eyes form is yet. Vjump called the green transformation just SS: "From a well-muscled body he transforms into a Super Saiyan!!".
Base Broly doesn't have any pupils so looks like like there will be more to the black haired SS form then just simply controlled SS. SS3/God/Evolution/UI are the only forms to give pupils. SS3 is the strongest SS form. SSGSS.Evo is the strongest of the god forms theand UI flat out the strongest form period. All have pupils...
Something is amiss here they haven't formally revealed that forms design...
Bullza wrote:Yes seriously, he looks ridiculous with the purple tights. The colour scheme looks all wrong, it's like a fan made design.
I ain't even that fond of the character but Broly was always popular because he was big hulking manly monster. Him wearing women's purple tights isn't a good look for him at all.
Oh ok, a colored piece of cloth now determines your gender, right.
Bullza wrote:Yes seriously, he looks ridiculous with the purple tights. The colour scheme looks all wrong, it's like a fan made design.
I ain't even that fond of the character but Broly was always popular because he was big hulking manly monster. Him wearing women's purple tights isn't a good look for him at all.
Oh ok, a colored piece of cloth now determines your gender, right.
Dark Purple isn't an uncommon color for men, at least I don't think so. I'm always seeing it in men clothing sections.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
Polyphase Avatron wrote:I just hope they don't end up making Broly the villain who killed Jiren's family and teacher. That would be really contrived if you ask me.
unlikely since we dont know HOW they would to to other universes
bleed0range wrote:
If you say that all of his actions are not evil just because he is a God than you give Zamasu the right to kill all mortals without technically being evil. It doesn’t make sense.
I am not actually the one saying that though. I was saying "he is not evil if he does not do it for himself" in regards to other people saying "its his job" as that is so often the argument and we need to get on the same level first. My addition of "but even of we ... bla ... we have to keep in mind fairly standard moral systems ... etc." to show that even if we give him that kind of freedom - acting like he has that freedom card, he is apparently neutral, etc. - we cannot actually factor out the rest and thus he will never be truly "not evil". I do not really consider Zamasu ultimately much more evil. He has very good points and actually the issues that he sees in intelligent life are a lot more serious with very true points than what we have seen from Beerus's judgment in some cases. But his drive and modalities make him "more evil". Beerus really only has that kind of "veil of something good" because he is hanging around the main guys while Zamasu really never did that. Remove that part from Beerus and we can see it more clearly. Both Zamasu and Beerus have something that evaluated within a moral system makes them evil. And just because they are not part of that system regularly does not mean they cannot be evaluated within it. Especially as they are not mere animals but intelligent persons that can possibly understand the concept of "valuing other lifeforms".
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sintzu wrote:Dark Purple isn't an uncommon color for men, at least I don't think so. I'm always seeing it in men clothing sections.
Oh I would like to have dark purple pants, not leggings of course lol
Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Cetra wrote:I am not actually the one saying that though. I was saying "he is not evil if he does not do it for himself" in regards to other people saying "its his job" as that is so often the argument and we need to get on the same level first. My addition of "but even of we ... bla ... we have to keep in mind fairly standard moral systems ... etc." to show that even if we give him that kind of freedom - acting like he has that freedom card, he is apparently neutral, etc. - we cannot actually factor out the rest and thus he will never be truly "not evil". I do not really consider Zamasu ultimately much more evil. He has very good points and actually the issues that he sees in intelligent life are a lot more serious with very true points than what we have seen from Beerus's judgment in some cases. But his drive and modalities make him "more evil". Beerus really only has that kind of "veil of something good" because he is hanging around the main guys while Zamasu really never did that. Remove that part from Beerus and we can see it more clearly. Both Zamasu and Beerus have something that evaluated within a moral system makes them evil. And just because they are not part of that system regularly does not mean they cannot be evaluated within it. Especially as they are not mere animals but intelligent persons that can possibly understand the concept of "valuing other lifeforms".
Even so, why would that make him evil? Zen'ou doesn't really care about other lifeforms and Beers is working under him, in charge of the Universe. He doesn't need to care about killing people he knows will reincarnate. eventually.