Characters who deserved more...

[ABED]

I don't know if I would neccessarily want more Chaozu, but when he's first introduced he's not that bright and he's quirky. He calls Kuririn baldy even though he has just one hair. I wish Toriyama hadn't dropped those quirks from his character.

[Rocketman]

Does Tenshinhan even have a personality?

He was a dick, and then he was less of a dick, and then he was sorry for being a dick, and then he wasn't a dick.

So ultimately, no, not anymore.

Also this took place over about forty-five minutes.

[DarkPrince_92]

Does Tenshinhan even have a personality?

He was a dick, and then he was less of a dick, and then he was sorry for being a dick, and then he wasn't a dick.

So ultimately, no, not anymore.

Also this took place over about forty-five minutes.

Lmao. Really quick change of heart. But that just means Tenshinhan had clouded judgement, and had morals deep down.... lol even when he broke one guy's leg and ended his career.

[ABED]

It was a few more than 2 episodes.

[RandomGuy96]

He reminds me of a Karate Kid villain.

[Rocketman]

"What?! The guy who was training me to murder people for money was not honorable? BWAH!"

[ABED]

"What?! The guy who was training me to murder people for money was not honorable? BWAH!"

What are you trying to get at with this? This is a genuine question, so please don't take umbrage.

[Gaffer Tape]

I would assume he's saying that Tenshinhan's moral struggle wasn't very deep, complex, or resonating.

[ABED]

I would assume he's saying that Tenshinhan's moral struggle wasn't very deep, complex, or resonating.

No one's is in DB. Toriyama isn't that kind of writer.

[TheGmGoken]

I would assume he's saying that Tenshinhan's moral struggle wasn't very deep, complex, or resonating.

No one's is in DB. Toriyama isn't that kind of writer.

Yeah most of Vegeta's was because of the anime filler or added dialog from the anime to be honest. Even through I'll say that Gohan and Vegeta was Akira's best work. Through I do wish he did better for Piccolo. I thought he had something going there.

[Gaffer Tape]

I would assume he's saying that Tenshinhan's moral struggle wasn't very deep, complex, or resonating.

No one's is in DB. Toriyama isn't that kind of writer.

Hey, don't look at me. I agree. That also means I agree with Rocketman. But it also means I don't get why a lot of those same people lift up Vegeta as some kind of bastion of complexity in a sea of static characters when he's no more rounded than any of the rest.

[ABED]

I do think Vegeta's dynamic, but Toriyama isn't the kind of writer to delve deeply into his psychy about why. We get a surface level examination, which suffices for the purpose of the story.

What do you consider a well rounded character to be? I'm asking for characteristics, not merely examples of characters.

[Kid Buu]

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[Rocketman]

Dragonball Z v1.01 quickfix patch.

-punching a child no longer gives you good karma

[ABED]

Dragonball Z v1.01 quickfix patch.

-punching a child no longer gives you good karma

He didn't have any good karma to start with. He grew a conscience, and he didn't hurt Gohan out of malice. The Saiyans were going to do much worse and he had only a year to prepare a sheltered child.

[TheGmGoken]

Shenlong. Abused by the Z fighters. Ignoring all TFS jokes. I wished Shenlong refused to come out because it's the same person almost every time. I wished that happen in DBGT. Then Shenlong turn the 7 dragonballs to mini Dragons(Taller than the Z fighters but smaller than him) and that would have been the Last Arc of DBGT. I mean the green Shenlong. It would have been a great ending. Then since DBGT lacks logic at times they could plot hax Shenlong to being the last adversary for the z warriors to fight. Then the ending could have been Shenlong kicking ass like a dragon should. The same ending as in DBGT. With Shenron disappearing for awhile and the Z fighters telling Shenlong when he returns they promise they won't use him again unless they absolutely have to. Goku never goes with Shenlong btw

[ABED]

But Shen Long is an extention of Kami in many ways.

[TheGmGoken]

But Shen Long is an extention of Kami in many ways.

He was still abused.

[ABED]

But Shen Long is an extention of Kami in many ways.

He was still abused.

But he's not a creature with free will.

[TheGmGoken]

But Shen Long is an extention of Kami in many ways.

He was still abused.

But he's not a creature with free will.

GT logic =/.