"Dragon Ball Z: Extreme Butouden" Official Discussion Thread

[Ajay]

Oh. My. God. WHY THE FUCK DID MY DUMBASS TRADE MY 3DS?!!

Exactly how I'm feeling right now. I sold it not even a year ago and now this happens.

RIP.

[Super Sayian Prime]

I wanted a new Dragon Ball fighter developed by Arc System Works, but not like this, not like this ...

While 100 fighters concerns me, I'm most likely going to buy this game just to support games 2D Dragon Ball games. I'm weak.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I wouldn't be too concerned about that 100 fighters thing just yet. For all we know, that count could be taking support characters into account as well. I mean, considering the supports seem to be reaching as deep as Dr. Brief being included...

[TheGameTagerZ]

Dicey translations lmao since when have we been dicey?

Hate to be "that guy", but since you asked...

We had been planning on translating the Famitsu review for XENOVERSE anyway, so we compared what you had after Julian went through and did his own. There were a whole bunch of instances of seemingly phrasing things in a way that implied more than was there, and then also missing the context entirely. For a couple concrete examples from just one of the four review paragraphs:

In Urara's review, there's a comment about the previous generation of consoles having a bit of slowdown with 3-on-3 battles. Your site's translation has this awkward phrasing of a full 3-on-3 fight being "antiquated" and then "the graphics really bring this into the new generation" when what's actually being said is that the graphics are pretty much on-par with each other across the two console generations. The biggest mis-translation there is a total mis-reading on the word "weight"; what's actually being said is that the game is overall weighted more toward online play, whereas your site's translation misses the boat and says there's "waiting" to be had with regard to looking for online matches.

It's that kind of stuff that prompts us to always refer back to the original Japanese text in these promotions and always do our own independent research, confirmation, and reporting. I know you've asked/submitted before, and that's why we do what we do.

Well I really asked him. Thanks though, definitely could of done better with the Famitsu one. It's not the same translator every time though to be fair.

Still though, this looked like something that would be more appropriate back when I pm'd you on Facebook. This was kind of a smug move in my opinion (like a really dickish way to address something). Even if you didn't mean it that's how this whole quote came out as.

[Quebaz]

I wouldn't be too concerned about that 100 fighters thing just yet. For all we know, that count could be taking support characters into account as well. I mean, considering the supports seem to be reaching as deep as Dr. Brief being included...

That's what I'm betting as well, something like 40-50 fighters with the rest being Assists, which could work IMO. Really excited to see how this goes, while looking a lot like SSW2, the combat seems more grounded so maybe It really is ArcSys take on the Butouden series instead of the Sprite-Based DBZ Simulator they used to do?

[Friggin_Krillin]

No Sequel to AotS, but better then nothing. So.. A Game with an insane amount of Characters again? This one probably is the closest and most thinkable Product with that Premise, that actually sees the Light of the Day again. Without most of the Complaining that would occur on the Big Shots, i guess? The 3DS somehow tends to be the perfect System for this with the Retro Look and the Shenanigans with the Allies.

[MagicBox]

For what it's worth, our translation of the DBZ Movie 7 title ("Kyokugen Batoru!! San Dai Sūpā Saiya-jin"} is "Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans". So if you've got a "Super" on top of the "Extreme"... I dunno? Of course, the person(s) responsible for our translation decisions are better suited for explaining the etymology and taking responsibility for our translation of the game's title .

Oh, there's nothing wrong with "Extreme." Perfect translation. I just hate that word, so I was desperately trying for another valid English term for "究極."

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

(in-character Vegeta) "Hmph. You guys are getting excited over this piece of crap? There's nothing appealing at all. Still waiting for the RPG about the Prince of all Saiyans, Vegeta-sama." *moving the feet in other direction with crossed arms close to the chest looking at glorious Xenoverse *

[DBZAOTA482]

I would die to have this released internationally cuz it'd give me a reason to pop open my 3DS. The Japanese seem to like keeping the good things to themselves especially with handhelds.

Sucks that Chi-Chi still isn't a playable character while weak-ass Mr. Satan and Videl apparently are but she's at least there for "Z Assist". Hopefully, her bitching will at least be useful (which seems to be Goku, Gohan and/or Goten unique).

[Lord Beerus]

Sucks that Chi-Chi still isn't a playable character while weak-ass Mr. Satan and Videl apparently are but she's at least there for "Z Assist". Hopefully, her bitching will at least be useful (which seems to be Goku, Gohan and/or Goten unique).

Chi Chi isn't exactly in hot contention for strongest human in Dragon Ball either.

[Doctor.]

I would die to have this released internationally cuz it'd give me a reason to pop open my 3DS.

Same here, I only use mine for Pokémon games only, I haven't found anything else that seems worthy enough, maybe this game will change that if it comes overseas.

[DBZAOTA482]

Sucks that Chi-Chi still isn't a playable character while weak-ass Mr. Satan and Videl apparently are but she's at least there for "Z Assist". Hopefully, her bitching will at least be useful (which seems to be Goku, Gohan and/or Goten unique).

Chi Chi isn't exactly in hot contention for strongest human in Dragon Ball either.

But she's a far more logical choice than those scrubs aside from maybe a story standpoint (at least in Mr. Satan's case). That's for sure.

[ArchedThunder]

Sucks that Chi-Chi still isn't a playable character while weak-ass Mr. Satan and Videl apparently are but she's at least there for "Z Assist". Hopefully, her bitching will at least be useful (which seems to be Goku, Gohan and/or Goten unique).

Chi Chi isn't exactly in hot contention for strongest human in Dragon Ball either.

But she's a far more logical choice than those scrubs aside from maybe a story standpoint (at least in Mr. Satan's case). That's for sure.

Not really, Mr Satan is a beloved joke character and Videl can actually fight on Z levels. Chi Chi is just Chi Chi.

I would die to have this released internationally cuz it'd give me a reason to pop open my 3DS.

Same here, I only use mine for Pokémon games only, I haven't found anything else that seems worthy enough, maybe this game will change that if it comes overseas.

That sucks, for me the 3DS has a crap load of games I love and there are more coming out that I'm excited about, I'm absolutely stoked for Fire Emblem If for instance.

[Kaboom]

Nintendo of America's New 3DS-related stupidity has ended up dominating most of my gaming attention today, so I only just sat down to read about this, but...

A new DBZ fighter game for 3DS? Sprite-based 2D gameplay from the same folks who made the Supersonic Warriors titles? A really good shot at getting localized considering how extremely cool Bandai-Namco has been in that regard lately?

YES, PLEASE. This is just what I've been aching for.

[Ryuman]

For what it's worth, our translation of the DBZ Movie 7 title ("Kyokugen Batoru!! San Dai Sūpā Saiya-jin"} is "Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans". So if you've got a "Super" on top of the "Extreme"... I dunno? Of course, the person(s) responsible for our translation decisions are better suited for explaining the etymology and taking responsibility for our translation of the game's title .

Oh, there's nothing wrong with "Extreme." Perfect translation. I just hate that word, so I was desperately trying for another valid English term for "究極."

Well, it says "Extreme Butouden" in Kana under the logo, so I guess we should just leave it at that?

[DBZAOTA482]

Videl can actually fight on Z levels. Chi Chi is just Chi Chi.

Not a chance. Videl can't even take a bullet. She's lucky to even be able to hurt BoD Yamcha whereas Chi-Chi was considered impressive by Muten Roshi himself and was shown to be quite superhuman (with a PL of 130 or 137 in V-Jump).

From a fighting game roster standpoint, it's either have Chi-Chi or fuck them both.

[Lord Beerus]

Videl can actually fight on Z levels. Chi Chi is just Chi Chi.

Not a chance. Videl can't even take a bullet. She's lucky to even be able to hurt BoD Yamcha whereas Chi-Chi was considered impressive by Muten Roshi himself and was shown to be quite superhuman (with a PL of 130 or 137 in V-Jump).

From a fighting game roster standpoint, it's either have Chi-Chi or fuck them both.

Aw, come on. How would Chi Chi be able to land a hit on Videl when Videl can fly? But even then, in a one-on-one fist, Videl or Mr Satan could stomp Chi Chi.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I don't want to really bring this into a game thread, but I have to agree that Chi Chi would stomp the hell out of Mr. Satan or Videl (assuming she didn't take to the sky and stay there). Videl and Satan are repeatedly shocked by feats that characters like Goku, Kuririn and Chi Chi were doing super early in the series. Like when Gohan jumped into the air after that baseball. That's nothing compared to the heights characters were jumping into the sky for the 21st, 22nd and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai events, and the look on Videl's face is clearly questioning how that is even possible.

[Quebaz]

Videl can actually fight on Z levels. Chi Chi is just Chi Chi.

Not a chance. Videl can't even take a bullet. She's lucky to even be able to hurt BoD Yamcha whereas Chi-Chi was considered impressive by Muten Roshi himself and was shown to be quite superhuman (with a PL of 130 or 137 in V-Jump).

From a fighting game roster standpoint, it's either have Chi-Chi or fuck them both.

Or you be a nice guy and include all of them. But seriously why isn't Chi-Chi playable, just take a few notes form her 23rd Budokai self and done.

[MagicBox]

Well, it says "Extreme Butouden" in Kana under the logo, so I guess we should just leave it at that?

Ah. I didn't see the Kana originally.

Welp, I guess that's that.

I guess as long as it doesn't get localized as "Extreme Budokai" or "Extreme Tenkaichi" like someone mentioned a few pages ago, I'll be happy.