A very important 10 year anniversary just passed (and your opinion on it)

[Jinzoningen MULE]

An even better source, I own DVD's older than 10 years with the tagline on the cover "Digitally Remastered!" or some variation.

Yeah, but did those DVDs popularize it by selling the most billionest copies ever?

I don't think so.

Exactly.

edit: This is why I called you friend, Cipher XD

Oh Christ... Nevermind, I think we're done.

[MarcBigleague]

How? Jinzoningen your analogy is flawed and ridiculous!

The analogy wasn't even the crux of my point, it was just demonstrating the problem with what you're saying, since you seem to be having a hard time understanding.

And Dragon Ball is very popular actually.

Yeah, but it's far from the most popular. In fact, it's far from even being mainstream.

Both you and my friend Cipher are acting as if I am sayign FUNimation invented the term.

No one thinks you're saying that. However, you are saying that they popularized it, which is factually untrue if you believe in the concept of linear time.

NANI?!?!?

Dragon Ball isn't "mainstream"? "Isn't the most popular"....WOW.... Okay... So I'm going to have to drop facts in here, it seems. No more discussion, just facts now.

Fact #1: Dragon Ball Z stopped airing on Cartoon Network via Toonami in America and not too soon, after, Toonami closed down
Fact #2: Dragon Ball Z stopped airing on UK Toonami channel (we had a 24/7 channel hehe but I only watched DBZ and Teen Titans xD and X-men evolutions) and Toonami soon closed down. Not only that, but UK stopped having anime entirely after DBZ got off air. So I was depressed.
Fact #3: Adult Swim, a "mainstream" channel owned by Turner Inc. "a mainstream" posibly even illuminati company are currently milking a certain series and that certain series gets top ratings for both of its shows...hmm...i wonder what this milkable series is...oh it's Dragon Ball xD

These 3 facts should convince you that Dragon Ball is mainstream.

And you are using words like "crux"? Why? I know what it means. it means center. But it is interesting that you do not reply to my analysis of your DVD era analogy, since that was the crux of my point...?

edit: "Dragon Ball Z Movie 16: Battle of Pilafs" xD

[Cipher]

Dragon Ball is mainstream. Not mainstream enough to have heralded in an era of "digitally remastered" marketing as you're arguing, however.

It might be worth noting that even before the term became a frequent seller of DVDs, it was rampant in CD marketing (and meaningless there as it is in movies, as technically just copying the recordings from analogue formats would constitute "digital remastering" in a move to digital medium; though, as ever, the intent was to conflate the phrase with cleanup and quality).

Here is a 2002 trailer for a re-release of a little known movie called E.T. that proudly uses the phrase to boast about its soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKfnMVuzXRo

I just spent time looking this up because I hate myself.

[MarcBigleague]

Dragon Ball is mainstream.

What do you have to say to Cipher, Jinzoningen?


edit: xD I just came up with a nice influence of the orange bricks. Great, energetic, intellectual discussions like this one

[Cipher]

i don't know what is happening here anymore

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Dragon Ball is mainstream. Not mainstream enough to have heralded in an era of "digitally remastered" marketing as you're arguing, however...

Guess I'd better clarify, since I'll likely be taken out of context on this later. When I say it's not mainstream, I mean... well, I work better in the realm of the hypothetical;

If I go and ask some random passerby off the street what the Terminator franchise (just to keep in a similar vein) is, whether or not they liked the movie, and to name at least 1 actor in it, most of them would be able to answer confidently. If I were to do the same with Dragon Ball, most people would probably know it's a thing that exists, and they'd probably know the classic meme's like "Over 9000!" or something about the excessive screaming, and they might even know what A Super Saiyan or Freeza is. However, the majority of people you run into will never have never even seen a useful portion of the series, they won't know any of the people involved, etc.

It doesn't even compare to actual mainstream franchises in the regional memory.

i don't know what is happening here anymore

Just shit-stirring, nothing to pay any mind to.

[MarcBigleague]

Dragon Ball is mainstream. Not mainstream enough to have heralded in an era of "digitally remastered" marketing as you're arguing, however...

Guess I'd better clarify, since I'll likely be taken out of context on this later. When I say it's not mainstream, I mean... well, I work better in the realm of the hypothetical:

If I go and ask some random passerby off the street what the Terminator franchise (just to keep in a similar vein) is, whether or not they liked the movie, and to name at least 1 actor in it, most of them would be able to answer confidently. If I were to do the same with Dragon Ball, most people would probably know it's a thing that exists, and they'd probably know the classic meme's like "Over 9000!" or something about the excessive screaming, and they might even know what A Super Saiyan or Freeza is. However, the majority of people you run into will never have never even seen a useful portion of the series, they won't know any of the people involved, etc.

It doesn't even compare to actual mainstream franchises in the regional memory.

i don't know what is happening here anymore

Just shit-stirring, nothing to pay any mind to.

That's not evaluating the mainstream status of the Dragon Ball franchise. You're comparing the popularity of the Terminator franchise to the Dragon Ball franchise. That's like saying if you did a survey on a sample populationa and more people said they've watched Grame of Thrones and not Breaking Bad, then suddenly Breaking Bad isn't mainstream. Wow.

"won't know any of the people involved" NANI??? Right so 99% of pokemon fans know the names of all the key animators of the show right? 99% don't even know Ash Kechum isn't his real name. Yet I'm sure Jinzoningen you're willing to say Pokemon isn't mainstream either...Okay.

[Soppa Saia People]

And Dragon Ball is very popular actually.

Yeah, but it's far from the most popular. In fact, it's far from even being mainstream.

If it's not then it's the closest anime will ever get to being mainstream.

It's not mainstream in the fact that most people have not watched/read it. Most have heard of it and may have caught an episode or two back when it was airing in the US.

[Cipher]

"won't know any of the people involved" NANI???

どうして日本語で「何」と言ってるんですか

[MarcBigleague]

Yeah, but it's far from the most popular. In fact, it's far from even being mainstream.

If it's not then it's the closest anime will ever get to being mainstream.

It's not mainstream in the fact that most people have not watched/read it. Most have heard of it and may have caught an episode or two back when it was airing in the US.

In my argument I was discussing the exposure that FUNimation created for this term "remastering" with their promotion and release of DBZ in the orange bricks form. And Jinzoningen + my friend Cipher started to evaluate my argument by assessing the outreach of Dragon Ball advertisement. People don't have to be fans of DBZ to have some idea it's an old cartoon and if a word like "remastered" is constantly being used in its advertisement people will know something is special about "remastering".

When FUNimation were advertising the orange bricks initially, they were NOT advertising the DBZ series. They were not saying "Hello we have imported this amazing new shonen anime from Japan, please watch". They said "One of the most established series of all time is being remastered for the first time ever in widescreen the way it was meant to be seen." So they were actually just advertising this concept that old media can be made to look new and this was "Remastering". It's not that hard an idea to comprehend in my honest opinion xD FUNimation were not trying to promote the DBZ anime in their promotion of the orange bricks, they promoting the term "remastered" essentially. And so obviously, if there are 60,000,000 DBZ fans, then a fair portion of those 60,000,000 fans had a new word in their vocabulary after seeing the advertisement of orange bricks and that is the word "remastering".

"won't know any of the people involved" NANI???

どうして日本語で「何」と言ってるか知りたいです。

I don't want to be a smart ass but VegettoEX will probably give you a warning for not following the rules that says you can only speak in English xD

[Cipher]

I don't want to be a smart ass but VegettoEX will probably give you a warning for not following the rules that says you can only speak in English xD

それはちょっと皮肉でしょう

だが、今僕は必ず戒告に感じやすくならせてしまうので、すみません。

[MarcBigleague]

I don't want to be a smart ass but VegettoEX will probably give you a warning for not following the rules that says you can only speak in English xD

それはちょっと皮肉でしょう

Haha I can't read what you are saying but you can speak Japanese. That's cool I want to one day learn it too so I can watch DBZ in Jpn dub without having to keep looking at the bottom of the screen (at the subtitles) xD

[Cure Dragon 255]

I understood some of it, "Doushite Nihongo..." and I cant understand more.

[Soppa Saia People]

Seriously, the fuck is going on here ?

[Cure Dragon 255]

I agree this is shitty, lets have yet another GOKU IZ SHIT thread. Those are quality stuff.

[Soppa Saia People]

I agree this is shitty, lets have yet another GOKU IZ SHIT thread. Those are quality stuff.

Oh no, I love this thread. I wasn't insulting it, it's just that it's really silly.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Alright. Let's get back on track!

Orange Bricks are bad.

Really? You think so too? Neat!

[MarcBigleague]

Alright. Let's get back on track!

Orange Bricks are bad.

Really? You think so too? Neat!

Hahaha I like that xP

[Soppa Saia People]

Alright. Let's get back on track!

Orange Bricks are bad.

Really? You think so too? Neat!

The colors on the OBs piss me the fuck off. The cropping is whatever, but the coloring is just awful.

[Cure Dragon 255]

I know I'm going to shit for this but... I'm super glad for the Season Sets, as shitty as they are. Because they are giving Latin America the perfect excuse to air DBZ again and pretend its all new. Even my country will air it again. I cant measure the joy this brings to me. I really hope one day One Piece gets redubbed under the excuse that its "HD".

tl;dr:I love the Season Sets, they give me life.