Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

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Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:43 pm

General Discussion for Dragon Ball Kai episode 40, aired 17 January 2010

フリーザ最後の超変身!地獄以上の恐怖がはじまる
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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by theoriginalbilis » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:35 am

There is more censoring in this episode, folks.

When Kuririn blasts a hole through Vegeta's stomach, the scene is redrawn so the gaping wound and spurting blood are removed. Now there is just a large bruise/gash similar to the Goku/Raditz edit in episode 3. In the scene where Dende refuses to heal Vegeta, there is some blood left intact, but the hole is redrawn into a bruise again.

1999-era FUNimation would be proud of this edit...

"Freeza's Theme - Only a Chilling Elegy" is also used as an insert song in this episode as well, during the scene when Piccolo, Kuririn, and Gohan attack Freeza 3-on-1. Most of the scene is reanimated as well, with a cool motion blur technique to similate some of the faster camera movements. The scene where Freeza shoots a ki blast at Gohan is also reanimated, but now with a "rainbow" effect for the scene instead of a black and white color scheme like in Z.
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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by Adamant » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:53 am

This episode covered 35 and a half page - all of chapters 303 and 304, and the first 7 and a half pages of 305.
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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by penguintruth » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:48 am

Somebody should tell Toei that using the same damn insert song more than once within a few episodes is lame.

What made them want to do this? You never even heard "Battle Point Unlimited" or "Spirit vs Spirit" after the first time in Dragon Ball Z. That's what made them special.
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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by Bura » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:11 am

theoriginalbilis wrote:In the scene where Dende refuses to heal Vegeta, there is some blood left intact, but the hole is redrawn into a bruise again.
Actually, that was fixed.
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Also, I really liked how they used that Freeza song again. Honestly, I was expecting CURE ~I'll Be Here~ as an insert song this time due Dende's passing.

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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by Cold Skin » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:05 am

Using an insert song more than once can be justified for some of them.

For example, I'm not shocked that Only A Chilling Elegy is used more than once, since it could partially sound like a regular BGM (they didn't use the actual singer the first time, so it's not really a song, more like a music with church-like vocals - like Requiem, with that opera voice, but not an insert song, just a regular music track). They could keep the singing part for later, so that people unaware of the track itself will see it as a "real" insert song.

But the intro of Only A Chilling Elegy is likely to become a general sound for the rest of the series, that wouldn't be shocking.

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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by Son Wukong » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:55 am

Wellp, looks like I messed up big time, opening another thread dedicated to episode 40. *sigh*

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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by Adamant » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:33 pm

penguintruth wrote:Somebody should tell Toei that using the same damn insert song more than once within a few episodes is lame.

What made them want to do this? You never even heard "Battle Point Unlimited" or "Spirit vs Spirit" after the first time in Dragon Ball Z. That's what made them special.
You heard Dragon Ball Densetsu 4 times in 5 episodes, though.
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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:39 pm

Adamant wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Somebody should tell Toei that using the same damn insert song more than once within a few episodes is lame.

What made them want to do this? You never even heard "Battle Point Unlimited" or "Spirit vs Spirit" after the first time in Dragon Ball Z. That's what made them special.
You heard Dragon Ball Densetsu 4 times in 5 episodes, though.
How does that work out? O.o
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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by penguintruth » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:16 pm

Adamant wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Somebody should tell Toei that using the same damn insert song more than once within a few episodes is lame.

What made them want to do this? You never even heard "Battle Point Unlimited" or "Spirit vs Spirit" after the first time in Dragon Ball Z. That's what made them special.
You heard Dragon Ball Densetsu 4 times in 5 episodes, though.
Which was as bad a decision then as this is now.
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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by Commander_Red » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:46 pm

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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by Castor Troy » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:48 pm

I really disliked that rainbow effect used at the end. It just didn't feel right for some reason.

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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by DemonRin » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:20 pm

Bura wrote:
theoriginalbilis wrote:In the scene where Dende refuses to heal Vegeta, there is some blood left intact, but the hole is redrawn into a bruise again.
Actually, that was fixed.
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Also, I really liked how they used that Freeza song again. Honestly, I was expecting CURE ~I'll Be Here~ as an insert song this time due Dende's passing.
Was the whole thing edited before though?
Does anyone have a Z-Kai comparison of the wound before this shot? Or was he just waiting for a chance to cry "CENSORSHIP!"
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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by theoriginalbilis » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:45 am

DemonRin wrote:Or was he just waiting for a chance to cry "CENSORSHIP!"
I legitimately forgot about that one cel of animation.
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Re: Kai Episode 40 (17 January 2010)

Post by Bura » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:39 pm

DemonRin wrote:
Bura wrote:
theoriginalbilis wrote:In the scene where Dende refuses to heal Vegeta, there is some blood left intact, but the hole is redrawn into a bruise again.
Actually, that was fixed.
DragonBall Z - DragonBall Kai
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Also, I really liked how they used that Freeza song again. Honestly, I was expecting CURE ~I'll Be Here~ as an insert song this time due Dende's passing.
Was the whole thing edited before though?
Does anyone have a Z-Kai comparison of the wound before this shot? Or was he just waiting for a chance to cry "CENSORSHIP!"
From the same episode:
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