The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hellspawn28]

Recoome vs. Dr. Uiro

Rules:
No outside help


Who wins?

[FPSSJ4_Goku]

Recoome vs. Dr. Uiro

Rules:
No outside help


Who wins?

Recoome solos and it's not even funny

[GatoF]

SSJ3 Gotenks ( no time limit ) vs Buupiccolo

[ZombieVito]

SSJ3 Gotenks ( no time limit ) vs Buupiccolo

Super Boo and SS3 Gotenks were pretty much even so Boopiccolo wins this thanks to Piccolo's skill and the slight power advantage he provides.

[Hellspawn28]

Homelander vs these DB villains

Pilaf Machine (With Pilaf, Shu, and Mai)
General Blue
Tao Pai Pai
22nd BT Tenshinhan
Tambourine
Old Piccolo Daimao
Young Piccolo Daimao
23rd BT Piccolo
Garlic Jr
Garlic Jr (Post-transformation)
Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Dr. Uiro
Oozaru Vegeta

Rules:
No outside help
Homelander fights one at a time
No immortally for Garlic Jr

[TobyS]

Homelander vs these DB villains

Pilaf Machine (With Pilaf, Shu, and Mai)
General Blue
Tao Pai Pai
22nd BT Tenshinhan
Tambourine
Old Piccolo Daimao
Young Piccolo Daimao
23rd BT Piccolo
Garlic Jr
Garlic Jr (Post-transformation)
Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Dr. Uiro
Oozaru Vegeta

Rules:
No outside help
Homelander fights one at a time
No immortally for Garlic Jr

He rips up the Pilaf machine.
Blue can probably beat him with TK.

Tao PaiPais pillar feat and speed seems on par with Homelanders bursting off the ground speed and he has actual martial skill.

Tambourine killed Kuririn effortlessly and they are like over moon busting level at this point.
Piccolo Daimao no question at all, can nuke cities casually.

[Almighty Majin]

The following fights will be done with equal power levels:
1. Nail & Lord Slug vs Saonel & Pirina
2. Cooler vs Frost
3. Androids 13, 14, & 15 vs Borarera, Panchia, & Koitsukai
4. Bojack & Zangya vs Ganos & Caway
5. Broly & Turles vs Kale & Caulifla

[Noah]

Which Namek Freeza form/Ginyu Force these Z Villains could take?

- Dr. Whello
- Oozaru Tullece
- Giant Lord Slug

[TobyS]

Which Namek Freeza form/Ginyu Force these Z Villains could take?

- Dr. Whello
- Oozaru Tullece
- Giant Lord Slug

Wheelo they wreck it's not even funny.

Tullece they can win with body switch. Otherwise remove the tail and use gang up making use of Guldo.

Slug they can't beat without body switch.

[GatoF]

1. Ultimate Gohan ( Pre-ToP) vs SSJ3 Goku ( Pre-ToP)
2. Base Gotenks (Post-Rosat) vs SSJ2 Goku (Buu arc)
3. Fat Janemba vs Evil Buu
4. Piccolo (Android arc Pre-Kami) vs Yardrat SSJ1 Goku

[ZombieVito]

1. Ultimate Gohan ( Pre-ToP) vs SSJ3 Goku ( Pre-ToP)
2. Base Gotenks (Post-Rosat) vs SSJ2 Goku (Buu arc)
3. Fat Janemba vs Evil Buu
4. Piccolo (Android arc Pre-Kami) vs Yardrat SSJ1 Goku

1.- Goku powers down to base and one shots his son.
2.- Goku powers down to Super Saiyan and one shots him.
3.- Evil Boo should be able to win. I'm not sure though.
4.- A repeat of their 23rd TB match.

[PowerLevelGuy]

Piccolo was able to beat Android 20, who should be well above Yardrat Goku.

Base Gotenks is just a gag, we see that Base Goku (EoZ) is only around Mr. Buu's power and he has Gotenks beat.

Base Goku (EoZ) ~ Mr. Buu > Base Gotenks proves that Base Gotenks stuff is a gag.

[Mireya]

Well, as far as I'm aware, Goku wasn't outright stated nor implied to be the strongest warrior of the universe by the end of Z. Can someone though post the EML statement that seemed to go down the "Goku > all" route?

But to me, knowing Gohan was brought to his utmost potential and then way more, being legit interpreted as the final evolution as Gohan couldn't even transform, as if everything he could achieve were locked into his base state, and then maintaining the same facial features 10 years later, plus Gotenks, a fused being, whom according to Goku, fusion warriors can access power the ingredients of the fusion alone can't, no matter how gifted... Despite Goten and Trunks having that huge potential Goku hadn't, as well as Gohan... Makes it weird for Goku to have surpassed them imo. I think that's just a level Goku couldn't achieve, much the same way Tenshinhan never caught up to Kuririn despite apparently being more rigorous and disciplined with his training, with the potential unlock Kuririn got likely being the reason the bridge couldn't be closed.

Maybe base Gotenks post RoSaT is indeed >> kid Boo. Or Goku, by the end of Z, despite having a base state stronger than Gotenks, had a smaller multiplier, having his base state approaching the SSJ, entering the final Saiyans stage evolution like Ultimate Gohan --- all the power stocked in the base state, or a normal state that isn't a transformation. The Daizenshuu iirc also stated the SSJ3 brought the user (or Goku?) or its utmost limit... So Goku in base by the end of Z reaching that level may hint at him completing the final evolution Saiyan stage already --- having all their power manifested in a natural state, without stress to the body, being a healthier way to utilize such power and not benefiting or being able to turn SSJ anymore.

[PowerLevelGuy]

It seems implied by the narrative during EoZ. Goku is treated as if he's the strongest. EML goes on to confirm our suspicions we've had all along.

Yeah, I feel like Ultimate Gohan should be way beyond what Goku is capable of. Maybe Goku got some Elder Kai power up and trained on top of it for EoZ? Who knows...

And perhaps you are right, perhaps there is no transformations for EoZ Goku. I've always kind of suspected your theory as well, like maybe they have gone beyond transformations at this point.

Good points. @mireya.

[Mireya]

@PowerLevelGuy

Yeah, I think the implications for Goku being the strongest are a little too vague. He's excited to fight Oob, but Oob has the heart of a warrior and is a youngster yet. And Goku knows his son's aren't into fighting, so he isn't going to be interested in fighting them. Like, Goku when Kid Boo was about to be killed, was excited for a rematch, despite knowing that level was far below the one Super Boo and Gotenks reached, so Goku's enthusiasm in fighting someone isn't so reliant on his kids powers... The excitement of a prospect youthful who's into fighting and improving can invoke these feeling on him. Besides, the fact he knew it'd be a no SSJ tournament (I assume they still don't want their identity revealed to the media) and Goku is excited to fight Oob all the same, saying he wants it for the first fight when both are still fresh... Makes sense with base being the most Goku could output as well imo.

[PowerLevelGuy]

Well, EML clarified the vagueness for us thankfully.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I'd find it really weird if Goku wasn't the strongest by EoZ. It's his series!

[PowerLevelGuy]

Yeah, maybe you got a good point. Plus, Goku already is crowned strongest in the universe by BoG, 5 years before EoZ. So if he could do it by BoG, no doubt he can do it by EoZ.

[GatoF]

1. Ultimate Gohan ( Pre-ToP) vs SSJ3 Goku ( Pre-ToP)
2. Base Gotenks (Post-Rosat) vs SSJ2 Goku (Buu arc)
3. Fat Janemba vs Evil Buu
4. Piccolo (Android arc Pre-Kami) vs Yardrat SSJ1 Goku

1.- Goku powers down to base and one shots his son.
2.- Goku powers down to Super Saiyan and one shots him.
3.- Evil Boo should be able to win. I'm not sure though.
4.- A repeat of their 23rd TB match.

How base Goku one shots Gohan if he wasn't able to do that at SSJ2?

[ZombieVito]

1. Ultimate Gohan ( Pre-ToP) vs SSJ3 Goku ( Pre-ToP)
2. Base Gotenks (Post-Rosat) vs SSJ2 Goku (Buu arc)
3. Fat Janemba vs Evil Buu
4. Piccolo (Android arc Pre-Kami) vs Yardrat SSJ1 Goku

1.- Goku powers down to base and one shots his son.
2.- Goku powers down to Super Saiyan and one shots him.
3.- Evil Boo should be able to win. I'm not sure though.
4.- A repeat of their 23rd TB match.

How base Goku one shots Gohan if he wasn't able to do that at SSJ2?

Oh, you weren't specific enough. Ultimate Gohan has 3 different powers before the ToP.

In episode 88, he is exactly as strong as his Boo arc self.
Between episodes 89 and 90, he is SS2 tier after training with Piccolo.
After episode 90, he is SSB tier thanks to his fight with Goku.

I thought you meant episode 88 Ultimate Gohan, my bad.