The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:42 pm

xmysticgohanx wrote:I'd say Tarble because he's the prince of all Saiyans.

Post-RoSaT Piccolo vs Semi Perfect Cell.

Buu Arc SSJ Goku vs FP Cell.
a) Piccolo kills him with ease.

b) Cell would still win.
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Post by Mjb1985 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:04 pm

Piccolo outperformed a Tired FPSSJ, he appears to be pretty damn strong. Put it this way, if your character is strong enough to get a quote on his strength, even if it's saying he's not that strong, he's going to be pretty damn strong. Or else it wouldn't be worth addressing.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:18 pm

I have Piccolo > all base Saiyans aside from Goku prior to BOG.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:20 pm

How strong do you guys think Dai Kaioh/Grand Kai is? Could he beat Freeza?
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Post by xmysticgohanx » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:11 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:How strong do you guys think Dai Kaioh/Grand Kai is? Could he beat Freeza?
Did he see the Goku vs Pikkon fight decently? I would put him at above the base Saiyans personally.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:46 pm

SSj4 Bardock vs. Perfect Cell

Would Bardock as a SSj4 would be strong enough to reach SSj2 levels? Most people say that SSj Bardock is weaker then Freeza's first form.
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Post by White Oni » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:55 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj4 Bardock vs. Perfect Cell

Would Bardock as a SSj4 would be strong enough to reach SSj2 levels? Most people say that SSj Bardock is weaker then Freeza's first form.
It's really hard, if at all possible, to tell.

We don't know what his power level was before transformation or what type of multiplier will be applied after.
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Post by xmysticgohanx » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:05 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj4 Bardock vs. Perfect Cell

Would Bardock as a SSj4 would be strong enough to reach SSj2 levels? Most people say that SSj Bardock is weaker then Freeza's first form.
If Bardock is at 10,000 and SSJ4 is 500x SSJ3 then Bardock would be about SSJ Goku level during the Cell Games.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:26 pm

I'm assuming this is EOB Bardock.

3,000 x 40,000 = 120,000,000

He probably wouldn't even beat Freeza. Forget any form of Cell.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:15 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj4 Bardock vs. Perfect Cell

Would Bardock as a SSj4 would be strong enough to reach SSj2 levels? Most people say that SSj Bardock is weaker then Freeza's first form.
Yeah Bardock is still royally screwed against Cell let alone Freeza. His last recorded base PL was 10k (no I dont factor in a Zenkai for EOB because nothing supports it)

10k X50 = 500 thousand

10k X100 = 1 million

10k X400 = 4 million

10k X4,000 = 40 million.

A SSJ4 Bardock wouldent even equal half of Freeza's full strength. His son could own him with a Kaio-ken X20. Even as a SSJ4, by the time the Android and Cell sagas roll in, he's one shot material for a lot of people.
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Post by hleV » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:04 am

Pretty sure Bardock received a zenkai after having his battle power recorded as close to 10,000, because he was injured and shit. Make it a 33x zenkai and you got 330,000 base.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:46 am

xmysticgohanx wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:How strong do you guys think Dai Kaioh/Grand Kai is? Could he beat Freeza?
Did he see the Goku vs Paikuhan fight decently? I would put him at above the base Saiyans personally.
He was able to see it, but he considered himself weaker than SSJ Goku and unweighted Paikuhan.
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Post by xmysticgohanx » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:13 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
xmysticgohanx wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:How strong do you guys think Dai Kaioh/Grand Kai is? Could he beat Freeza?
Did he see the Goku vs Paikuhan fight decently? I would put him at above the base Saiyans personally.
He was able to see it, but he considered himself weaker than SSJ Goku and unweighted Paikuhan.
I guess he should be = or > Freeza then.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:09 am

In that particular filler arc Goku was a lot stronger than when he fought Freeza though, and of course there is the scene of Pikkon one-shotting Cell
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:38 pm

Super Perfect Cell, Full Power Bojack, and LSSJ Broly gang up on Fat Buu.

Who wins?
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KentalSSJ6 wrote:Super Perfect Cell, Full Power Bojack, and LSSJ Broly gang up on Fat Buu.

Who wins?
It was said that "an army of ascended Saiyans" couldn't have beaten Buu, and all of these guys are either on that level or lower. Buu takes this.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:23 pm

Buu one-shots them all at the same time. It was stated that SS2 Vegeta, SS2 Goku, SS2 Gohan, SS Trunks, and SS Goten together wouldn't be able to manage shit against Fat Buu, and that team up is more formidable than this one.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:24 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Drum Vs Old Piccolo Daimao
Hmm. Depends you think Ten can compete with Piccolo?
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:22 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Super Perfect Cell, Full Power Bojack, and LSSJ Broly gang up on Fat Buu.

Who wins?
It was said that "an army of ascended Saiyans" couldn't have beaten Buu, and all of these guys are either on that level or lower. Buu takes this.
Alrighty, how bout if SSJ3 Vegeta is holding off Kid Buu while Goku charges up. How do you think the final battle would have gone? Perhaps Vegeta can damage Buu enough to the point a wish isn't needed to restore Goku's power?
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