Assuming that Goku died in episode 1 of DB....

[GS7X7]

Let's say that Goku wound up dead in episode 1 for whatever reason....

Assuming the anime is canonical, what would have ultimately happened by the end of DB-Z-GT?


For starters, I guess in DB Pilaf would have gotten his wish to rule over the world and Yamcha and Bulma would have rotted away in his prison.

[Pokewhiz7]

Bulma would take his ball, drive away, and get scared by Oolong. The story would end there.

[SRB2Unleashed]

Raditz would've also came to earth, learned Goku was dead, learned about the Dragon Balls, Wish Goku back to life (I dont really care if theres a plothole on how long a person can be dead or not) and...that's all I know.

[jjgp1112]

Raditz would've also came to earth, learned Goku was dead, learned about the Dragon Balls, Wish Goku back to life (I dont really care if theres a plothole on how long a person can be dead or not) and...that's all I know.

How would he even learn of the Dragon Balls? And since you even brought up the conflict of a plot hole...yeah, the last part wouldn't have happened, so I don't know why you even brought it up

[Adamant]

Neither Pilaf, Bulma or anyone else would've managed to get that ball from Gyumao's castle, so... uh, Raditz would've eventually showed up, not found Kakarot, then killed everyone on Earth and sold it off.

Then Babidi would've come along.

[PuppetDoctor]

Bulma would have been arrested for murdering Goku. Yamcha would have kept terrorizing people who came to the desert. Oolong would have kept capturing young girls. The Tenkaichi Budokai would be boring with regular people fighting constantly. Raditz would have come along and found out Goku died and sold off the planet.

[GS7X7]

For one thing there'd be no Cell or Artificial Humans- not sure what'd happen to Dr. Gero though he'd probably still build himself a robot body assuming he didn't get killed or earth wasn't blown up.

There'd also be no Bojack either along with no GT Baby saga, Super-17 saga or any Evil Dragons saga. (should we count the movies at all? Movie 3 would kill off earth for good if Goku wasn't alive)

If Pilaf was alive up to where GT took place- and was no longer ruler of earth- then he'd probably wish to be ruler again.

[Vice]

Yamcha and Bulma probably would have never met, Kuririn would be Master Roshi's star pupil, Tien would probably be a multiple tournament champion, Pilaf would still find a way to fuck his own plans up. Everything then is all peachy until the Red Ribbon army kind of takes over the world. Piccolo Daimou then comes around and, since there's no one around strong enough to stop him, takes things over from them. Krillin, Tien and Yamcha probably die at his hands, not fighting together of course. Raditz eventually shows up and wipes out humanity. Vegeta never learns about the dragon balls so he, Nappa and Raditz continue to obey Freeza until they probably stage a coup, fail and die horribly. No Goku means that the androids aren't created, or are created to try and defeat Piccolo Daimou, but Gero probably wouldn't be spared by him anyway. Whoever buys the planet enjoys it until Majin Buu is eventually released and he and Babidi kind of takes over the universe.

Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks and Goten would never exist.

[Choujin Daizenshuu]

If Goku died in episode 1, the show would be over and Toei would never release it to the public ever again.

Toriyama would probably be bamboozled.

[SRB2Unleashed]

Raditz would've also came to earth, learned Goku was dead, learned about the Dragon Balls, Wish Goku back to life (I dont really care if theres a plothole on how long a person can be dead or not) and...that's all I know.

How would he even learn of the Dragon Balls? And since you even brought up the conflict of a plot hole...yeah, the last part wouldn't have happened, so I don't know why you even brought it up

Because if Pilaf was king, he would've been cocky and brought up the Dragon Balls. My theory anyways.

[Akumaito Beam]

Toriyama would probably be bamboozled.

It's comforting to know at the end of the day the result would be the same as it is now.

[GS7X7]

If you count the movies then earth dies in Movie 3.... if not, I guess it lasts up until Majin Buu.

Though, would Vegeta ever become strong enough on his own to defeat Freeza without meeting Goku? It still wouldn't matter, Buu would still wind up killing him eventually if he did.

[DanielGClapp]

The RR Army would have taken over for a while. Bulma would probably be dead, and the rest would be off to mischief.

[Pokewhiz7]

The RR Army would have taken over for a while. Bulma would probably be dead, and the rest would be off to mischief.

I dunno, Pilaf would've probably gotten his wish.

[GS7X7]

Tenshinhan would still be a bad guy.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

I always laugh at how Z plot points always make sure the Earth is either destroyed or decimated if any one pre-Z event changes at all.

[CaBrPi]

The RR Army would have taken over for a while. Bulma would probably be dead, and the rest would be off to mischief.

I dunno, Pilaf would've probably gotten his wish.

I don't see how Pilaf could've gotten the ball out of the Gyumao's castle.

[Pokewhiz7]

The RR Army would have taken over for a while. Bulma would probably be dead, and the rest would be off to mischief.

I dunno, Pilaf would've probably gotten his wish.

I don't see how Pilaf could've gotten the ball out of the Gyumao's castle.

Helicopter?

[TripleRach]

I don't see how Pilaf could've gotten the ball out of the Gyumao's castle.

With science! He could've flown over the castle with one of his planes and dropped down Mai and/or Shuu in heat-resistant mecha suits.

I think he would have a harder time with Kamesennin's ball, though. Maybe if he knew to distract him with porn or something.

[Rukura]

Pilaf never gets his wish, because he'll cross paths with RR Army. Bulma stays single because even IF Yamcha brings himself to get within 5 feet of her, he'll be too much of a pussy to make a move. Kame Sennin and company would either be defeated by RR Army + Tao Pai Pai, or later by Tenshinhan and the Crane gang.

Suppose Pilaf is somehow still alive after his encounter with RR earlier. He now wants revenge and will unseal Piccolo Daimao. Maybe someone manages to seal him, maybe not. Either way, here comes uncle Raditz...who is not an uncle in this case, i guess lol.

Earth now belongs to Freeza. Say Movie 3's Tullece comes along...he might take over Earth...until the landlord, Freeza, smacks Tullece's vegetable shit around and maybe sticks around with Freeza and the remaining saiyans to take care of Slug and his lackeys.

Freeza's still alive so we skip Movies 5 and 6. Goku never screwed with the RR so no Artificial Humans, thus skipping movie 7 and Cell. Doesn't matter because here comes Broly and Paragus to claim everything as their own....oh..."his own", because Broly doesn't share. He's gonna take care of Hitler in movie 12....but as soon as Babidi and Buu show up, it's their game (Dabra and Pui Pui are still around).....wait....scratch that. If anything anime counts, Babidi and Buu are gonna be defeating Hatchiyack and Lychee (Broly's still saiyan, so he's as good of a target as anyone else)

Let's not forget that the Heaven and Hell are pretty much s.o.l. because Janemba's there to stay and Kid Goku doesn't know the meaning of the word "Fusion" nor how to count up to his age (nor does he have a physical body so that's that). He might start blowing up the kaios' planets just for kicks and end up releasing Bojack and his crew....but at that point, does it even matter?

Babidy and Buu eventually take care of Hildegarn. I feel sorry for Tarble and Avocado. Any trace of any regular Dragon Balls is long gone, so no black stars. The Para Para Brothers will be defeated by the dude from Giru's mech planet, who will be blinked out of existence along with Buu by...*drum roll*...Baby.

End result: Baby rules the entire universe while Buu and Janemba fight eternally for the domain of the afterlife........that is until Baby breaks the barrier between the worlds of the living and the dead and just take over everything. (Fuck GT at this point, i guess is what i'm saying lol)

........Did i miss anything?