How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
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How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
It must have been more than a week without sleep right? That's totally insane if that's right.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
If I recall correctly, about six or so days (December 18th-24th).
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
He arrived right after Bulma, Kuririn, and Gohan. Six days after that, Goku arrives. So yeah, six days sounds right.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Yeah, odd how he happened to just arrive immediately after the trio, but whatever. 6 full days of running around, constant fighting, and flying half way around the planet and back. Must have been tough.
And people wonder how that 'nap' took him from ~35,000+ to ~500,000. Maybe he was always stronger, just needed a quick power nap to allow him to truly regain full strength. I always did think his zenkais were pretty damn weak when compared to Goku and Gohan.
And people wonder how that 'nap' took him from ~35,000+ to ~500,000. Maybe he was always stronger, just needed a quick power nap to allow him to truly regain full strength. I always did think his zenkais were pretty damn weak when compared to Goku and Gohan.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Remember though he did spend sometime in the rejuvenation chamber during that time (December 19-20). Then after the battle with Zarbon five days past before the Ginyu Force arrived during which time Vegeta spent most of the time resting and waiting for Krillin and co to make a move so he could find the last dragonball.
It is conceivable to think then that he may of slept (albeit briefly) during that time, but before he takes a nap before the Freeza fight, that he hadn't slept properly since the rejuvenation chamber five days earlier.
It is conceivable to think then that he may of slept (albeit briefly) during that time, but before he takes a nap before the Freeza fight, that he hadn't slept properly since the rejuvenation chamber five days earlier.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
He slept after Zarbon beat him up. He was unconsious when Zarbon retrieved him. He woke up in the healing pod. Of course, you could argue that being in a concussion-induced coma isn't exactly restful.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Where the hell did you get that from?Relight wrote:that 'nap' took him from ~35,000+ to ~500,000.
Kanzentai - Battle Power Guide wrote:Vegeta (arrival on Planet Namek): 24,000 [M-21]
--during the battle with Recoom: close to 30,000 [K-19; D7-p.83]
--after the battle with Recoom: 250,000 [VJ]
Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
hleV wrote:Where the hell did you get that from?Relight wrote:that 'nap' took him from ~35,000+ to ~500,000.
Kanzentai - Battle Power Guide wrote:Vegeta (arrival on Planet Namek): 24,000 [M-21]
--during the battle with Recoom: close to 30,000 [K-19; D7-p.83]
--after the battle with Recoom: 250,000 [VJ]
... What? Directly after the fight with Recoome, what are you saying? That he jumped from over 30k(Stated to have jumped up 30k, so unless he was running around Namek suppressed to a power level of 5, I'd say it's safe to say he was ~35k or so), and then he beats up Jeice, and proceeds to pummel Ginyu in Goku's body.
Now, tell me where the hell it states that he jumped up to 250,000, and how? That was far stronger than Goku at that time, who was only 90,000. Really, please do show me direct proof of him being 250k, because as far as I know, and I know for a fact that he wasn't anywhere close to that. He gets strong enough to take care of Jeice, takes a nap, and then is boosted up to 480k to 500k for his grapple with First form Freeza(530,000).
Prove me otherwise.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
These Battle Powers are official, I really don't have to prove anything to you. Vegeta was beaten by Recoom, then Goku gave him a Senzu.Relight wrote:hleV wrote:Where the hell did you get that from?Relight wrote:that 'nap' took him from ~35,000+ to ~500,000.
Kanzentai - Battle Power Guide wrote:Vegeta (arrival on Planet Namek): 24,000 [M-21]
--during the battle with Recoom: close to 30,000 [K-19; D7-p.83]
--after the battle with Recoom: 250,000 [VJ]
... What? Directly after the fight with Recoome, what are you saying? That he jumped from over 30k(Stated to have jumped up 30k, so unless he was running around Namek suppressed to a power level of 5, I'd say it's safe to say he was ~35k or so), and then he beats up Jeice, and proceeds to pummel Ginyu in Goku's body.
Now, tell me where the hell it states that he jumped up to 250,000, and how? That was far stronger than Goku at that time, who was only 90,000. Really, please do show me direct proof of him being 250k, because as far as I know, and I know for a fact that he wasn't anywhere close to that. He gets strong enough to take care of Jeice, takes a nap, and then is boosted up to 480k to 500k for his grapple with First form Freeza(530,000).
Prove me otherwise.
Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Link the official manga scan of them being official, then? Okay, so Goku gives him a senzu, so that automatically gives him a certain number boost on the upcoming zenkai he's going to receive? Oh, and please don't post one of those fake power level pages, with Piccolo during the fight against the saiyans being 3,500.
So yeah... He got a zenkai indeed, but when exactly was it ever stated that it boosted him to 250,000, and if it did, then why the hell was Goku still acting so cocky with him taunting Vegeta by saying that he's recovered from near-death a couple times already, and that he should be up to fighting Jeice, when Goku was only 90,000, and you're saying the senzu Goku just gave him after he arrived and took care of Burter and Recoome boosted Vegeta to 250,000. Well seems to me Vegeta would have just solo'd Ginyu and Jeice, then killed Goku at a later time when he could surprise him so he doesn't use KK.
I just don't think the boost was that big, I realize that you're saying he got a zenkai, that's fine, it happened, but ~30k to 250k? Exactly? Not a thousand below or a thousand more? Uh huh, please post proof.
So yeah... He got a zenkai indeed, but when exactly was it ever stated that it boosted him to 250,000, and if it did, then why the hell was Goku still acting so cocky with him taunting Vegeta by saying that he's recovered from near-death a couple times already, and that he should be up to fighting Jeice, when Goku was only 90,000, and you're saying the senzu Goku just gave him after he arrived and took care of Burter and Recoome boosted Vegeta to 250,000. Well seems to me Vegeta would have just solo'd Ginyu and Jeice, then killed Goku at a later time when he could surprise him so he doesn't use KK.
I just don't think the boost was that big, I realize that you're saying he got a zenkai, that's fine, it happened, but ~30k to 250k? Exactly? Not a thousand below or a thousand more? Uh huh, please post proof.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
So you're doubting in Kanzentai. I guess that settles it.Relight wrote:Link the official manga scan of them being official, then? Okay, so Goku gives him a senzu, so that automatically gives him a certain number boost on the upcoming zenkai he's going to receive? Oh, and please don't post one of those fake power level pages, with Piccolo during the fight against the saiyans being 3,500.
Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Feel free to keep trying to dodge the question, or actually post the proof. Yes, I'm doubting what you're saying because he was not immediately 250,000. That would have been stronger than Goku at the time even before he was body swapped.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
The 250,000 comes from the first issue of V-Jump on December 12th, 1990.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Of V-Jump, the video game release of Shonen Jump. Not canon, because those were power levels for DBZ video games released at the time. Nope, still don't believe it, sorry, and now I definitely don't knowing where that number originates from.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
It doesn't say that anywhere.Relight wrote:Not canon, because those were power levels for DBZ video games released at the time.
Okay.Nope, still don't believe it, sorry
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Remember, he also got a Senzu from Goku when he arrived on Namek, which would be like a million Red Bulls in terms of keeping someone awake.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Would eating a senzu make sleeping unneccasary? A senzu is suppose to restore your energy so wouldn't it be like sleeping (maybe not for the mental benefits but for the physical benefits)?
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Issuing account warnings for some of you with the constant, excessive, antagonistic attitudes.
This is such a simple question that I can't even fathom how it is you're already getting into mean-spirited arguments with each other. Does this really warrant comments like you're tossing out toward your fellow fans?
Why do your "in-universe" conversations always end up this way, and so quickly? Please take note of the other conversations on this forum which can go for tens upon tens of pages with no unfortunate warnings. It doesn't have to be this way, and it's entirely up to you.
This is such a simple question that I can't even fathom how it is you're already getting into mean-spirited arguments with each other. Does this really warrant comments like you're tossing out toward your fellow fans?
Why do your "in-universe" conversations always end up this way, and so quickly? Please take note of the other conversations on this forum which can go for tens upon tens of pages with no unfortunate warnings. It doesn't have to be this way, and it's entirely up to you.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Nothing is directly mentioned about how the Senzu and sleeping needs.dario03 wrote:Would eating a senzu make sleeping unneccasary? A senzu is suppose to restore your energy so wouldn't it be like sleeping (maybe not for the mental benefits but for the physical benefits)?
However it's a little weird to assume Vegeta growth before the battle with Freeza was only because of the Senzu. I mean, the same wouldn't also apply before the battle with Reecome as well? That would make his power much greater than 30,000 if he had sleep and likely easily defeat Reecome.
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Re: How many days did Vegeta go without sleep on Namek?
Well, Reacoom did beat him up really bad. He would have died within a minute if Gohan never interfered or Goku hadn't arrived there.
Maybe by the huge power up (30,000 to 250,000), they meant the power up he received after Kuririn blew a hole in his stomach and Dende healed him. That was more of a near death experience than the battle with Reacoom could ever have been.
Taking that into account, it's very realistic.
Maybe by the huge power up (30,000 to 250,000), they meant the power up he received after Kuririn blew a hole in his stomach and Dende healed him. That was more of a near death experience than the battle with Reacoom could ever have been.
Taking that into account, it's very realistic.