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"Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:26 pm

Not all animated series/films are for children, like hentai, but do you tend to respond to unpleasant comments like this or ignore?

Some old people say this sort of stuff. Maybe they should give it a try (not Dragon Ball specifically) and see if they'd enjoy and get a laugh (or more) off of it.

Btw, blaming violence on video games is just nonsense.
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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by caejones » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:00 pm

Because it's awesome, and I doubt I will ever stop calling myself a kid.

And video games causing violence is pretty much the opposite of what studies say, so nya.
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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by Bussani » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:42 pm

"Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"
"Why not?"

I wish I could give a more thoughtful reply than this, but it's so simple that there isn't much to say. What's wrong with watching a kid's cartoon show? Why is "it's for children" used as a criticism? ...I'm just going to quote C.S. Lewis again.
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Post by Sebastian » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:44 pm

I tend to just give the person who asks a cold stare and then walk away.

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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:50 pm

Nostalgia that I hold deeply enough to take scrutiny for.

Let's see where this goes; reassurance threads can get silly quick.
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Post by Insertclevername » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:04 pm

Bussani wrote:
C.S. Lewis wrote:Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.

That's actually a very insightful quote, I sort of always felt that way but never knew how to formulate it into words.
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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by Cipher » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:24 pm

I'm just very open about the fact that I enjoy a few children's series.

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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by LordCrumb » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:33 pm

A lot of Cartoons cater to adults in some way or another.. even if its just an inside joke only adults will get. They put them in because they know parents are usually watching them with their children, and they want them to have something to laugh about too.

I remember when I was little, watching The Simpsons (the good seasons), and my parents were always laughing at stuff I never understood until I was older...

Anime is totally different to Cartoons imo, if someone asks me why I am watching Cartoons, I usually say, it's Anime, it's not a cartoon.. they don't understand though, they lob everything into one group... Powerpuff Girls, Spongebob, Dragon Ball Z, they are all the same to some people.

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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by OutlawTorn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:58 pm

My philosophy is if I like a show, whether or not I fit the target demographic, I'll watch it. I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of if you are an adult and still enjoy animation, if anything it's a breath of fresh air from the glut of reality programming.

We don't have a say in whether or not we grow up, but that doesn't mean we have to grow "old" and certainly don't need to be defined by a number.
LordCrumb wrote:Anime is totally different to Cartoons imo, if someone asks me why I am watching Cartoons, I usually say, it's Anime, it's not a cartoon.. they don't understand though, they lob everything into one group... Powerpuff Girls, Spongebob, Dragon Ball Z, they are all the same to some people.
But they are all cartoons. "Cartoon" shouldn't be considered a dirty word or "disrespectful" to Dragon Ball or other anime, anime is simple a genre of cartoons and only exists as a sort of brand name outside of Japan, where The Simpsons, Spongebob and Powerpuff Girls are classified as "anime."

It's all semantics, really.

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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by TheGreatness25 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:59 pm

There's nothing in the series that isn't really for kids. The fighting, the blood, the very mild nudity was acceptable in Japan and honestly, nothing that kids shouldn't really see. Plus it's marketed to kids here, so it's perceived as a kid's show. I like to watch Doug and Flintstones and whatnot, they're kids shows but it's okay. You watched DB/Z as a kid, which is when you started liking it, so it's a kids show. So what? My explanation is that I am nostalgic and I like everything that I liked as a kid. Don't try to make it look like it's not a kids show just because you don't want to be embarrassed or whatever because you'll never convince anyone that is just a casual fan or not a fan at all that it's not a kids show.

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Post by LordCrumb » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:20 pm

OutlawTorn wrote:My philosophy is if I like a show, whether or not I fit the target demographic, I'll watch it. I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of if you are an adult and still enjoy animation, if anything it's a breath of fresh air from the glut of reality programming.

We don't have a say in whether or not we grow up, but that doesn't mean we have to grow "old" and certainly don't need to be defined by a number.
LordCrumb wrote:Anime is totally different to Cartoons imo, if someone asks me why I am watching Cartoons, I usually say, it's Anime, it's not a cartoon.. they don't understand though, they lob everything into one group... Powerpuff Girls, Spongebob, Dragon Ball Z, they are all the same to some people.
But they are all cartoons. "Cartoon" shouldn't be considered a dirty word or "disrespectful" to Dragon Ball or other anime, anime is simple a genre of cartoons and only exists as a sort of brand name outside of Japan, where The Simpsons, Spongebob and Powerpuff Girls are classified as "anime."

It's all semantics, really.
That's why i said 'imo'. For me, Cartoons and Anime are two different things :)

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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by AgitoZ » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:28 pm

Since Bussani already posted what I would've posted (as this type of thread has popped up before) I'm just gonna coment on some other posts.
OutlawTorn wrote:But they are all cartoons. "Cartoon" shouldn't be considered a dirty word or "disrespectful" to Dragon Ball or other anime, anime is simple a genre of cartoons and only exists as a sort of brand name outside of Japan, where The Simpsons, Spongebob and Powerpuff Girls are classified as "anime."

It's all semantics, really.
Wait...are you saying it is a genre or not? Cause it really isn't.

Maybe if more people started using term like how it's used in Japan (a shortening of the word animation) then I'd use it more and wouldn't be so annoyed when it is used.
TheGreatness25 wrote:I like to watch Doug and Flintstones and whatnot, they're kids shows but it's okay. You watched DB/Z as a kid, which is when you started liking it, so it's a kids show.
The Flinstones is a kids' show now? If shows I watched as a kid start becoming kids' show then Rod Serling would start rolling in his grave.
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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by samuraix123 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:49 pm

I've had lots of people tell me this, and to be honest I don't really care if it's a kids show or not.
I admit I'm not into a-lot of Anime like some people, but I do watch a-lot of the old stuff that I grew up with like Mobile fighter G gundam and Rurouni Kenshin. Honestly I love watching animation. I always have and always will. especially the old Disney stuff, the animation that they use is damn near perfection. but whatever, I don't care if people talk about me watching animated stuff. while their talking about me there letting someone else rest. :P Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to be watching some Biker Mice from Mars!
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Re: "Why are you watching a kids cartoon show?"

Post by Nex Carnifex » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:55 am

They play Japanese kids shows on adult swim here, at midnight, and they receive ratings as high as MA. I think the lines of what is for kids and what is not is very blurry when in comes to anime, the mangas are written by adults who just want to write what they want to write, and unlike in america they are pretty free to depict that as graphically or suggestively as they like. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is a shonen but its themes and moral questions are much more complex and mature than anything I've seen in live action "adult" american tv. Its really subjective really, Mark Twain considers his Advenures of Tom Sawyer books intended for adults, but many remember them as popular children's books. I watched Dragon Ball Kai with my mom, she believes its an adult cartoon, I don't think she's wrong.

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Post by Taku128 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:58 am

Nex Carnifex wrote:Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is a shonen but its themes and moral questions are much more complex and mature than anything I've seen in live action "adult" american tv.
Psst! There's more on American TV than shitty sitcoms that air during prime-time on FOX!
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Post by Nex Carnifex » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:00 am

Taku128 wrote:
Nex Carnifex wrote:Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is a shonen but its themes and moral questions are much more complex and mature than anything I've seen in live action "adult" american tv.
Psst! There's more on American TV than shitty sitcoms that air during prime-time on FOX!
Like Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead? Since those are 2 I watch and they appear to be the popular shows for adults right now.

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Post by OutlawTorn » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:04 am

AgitoZ wrote:
OutlawTorn wrote:But they are all cartoons. "Cartoon" shouldn't be considered a dirty word or "disrespectful" to Dragon Ball or other anime, anime is simple a genre of cartoons and only exists as a sort of brand name outside of Japan, where The Simpsons, Spongebob and Powerpuff Girls are classified as "anime."

It's all semantics, really.
Wait...are you saying it is a genre or not? Cause it really isn't.
As I said, outside of Japan "anime" is treated as a genre of animation with some of the more extremist considering it an insult to use the word "cartoon" to describe anime. Whereas in North America, for example, you would find "Disney" animation and "Marvel" animation along with computer animation. Just like anime, it's all animation but there are people who have this need to put a label on these different forms or styles of animation.

The most notable difference within most anime I am aware of with most western animation is the serialization of anime. Take The Simpsons, for example, if you were to watch from the first episode of the first season until the most recent episode in sequential order, you will not experience a story like you would with most anime. There's some character development, of course, but it has mostly maintained the status quo, with Maggie still being a baby after 23 years, etc.
Maybe if more people started using term like how it's used in Japan (a shortening of the word animation) then I'd use it more and wouldn't be so annoyed when it is used.
Whether you agree or disagree with my stance is fine, but I've seen enough people go apeshit because someone dared to call animated Dragon Ball "a cartoon" and the manga "a comic" when that's exactly what they are. "Anime" and "manga" have thus become genre titles outside of Japan (emphasis because people seem to selectively read what I post) along the likes of "Sci-Fi" and "Fantasy" and "Romance" and "Horror."

It would be so much simpler if the entire world had a standard for stuff like this, but that would be too easy.

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Post by Bussani » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:24 am

OutlawTorn wrote:The most notable difference within most anime I am aware of with most western animation is the serialization of anime. Take The Simpsons, for example, if you were to watch from the first episode of the first season until the most recent episode in sequential order, you will not experience a story like you would with most anime.
Except when that anime is Sazae-san. Or Shin-chan. Or Doraemon. Or Gintama.

Yes, I know you said "most". There are plenty of exceptions on both sides.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:59 am

If someone asks me that question, I just reply, "Because I like it. Duh." Why should I care about whether or not I fit its target demographic?
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:08 am

I don't care for whom the show is aimed it because I like it. That's all that matters.

Now excuse me I'll be watching Barney n' Friends.Oh and Dragon Ball isn't for kids. It's for everyone.
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