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Zephyr wrote:I'm not sure, I think that was meant to be more of "the strongest in Z who had already appeared".
It states what it states, I don't deal in theories on what it was or wasn't supposed to state.
And it does not state "Beerus is the most powerful character to appear in this new movie!", it uses the word history, which very strongly implies the past.
hleV wrote:This doesn't excuse the wrong statement. If you leave a surprise at the end, don't make statements that would turn out wrong.
That more than excuses the statement, if that was their intention. But you can't really label that as a false statement based solely on your interpretation of the nature of the statement itself.
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dbzfan7 wrote:This was before? Even so he'd be basing his statements on what Kei said and I'd trust his analysis over fan subs that usually suck.
Well, we have memory vs unknown quality subs. I made a thread for that anyway to be sure.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
dbzfan7 wrote:This was before? Even so he'd be basing his statements on what Kei said and I'd trust his analysis over fan subs that usually suck.
Well, we have memory vs unknown quality subs. I made a thread for that anyway to be sure.
Well according to that thread people say both were said. So pick a side I guess.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Zephyr wrote:I'm not sure, I think that was meant to be more of "the strongest in Z who had already appeared".
It states what it states, I don't deal in theories on what it was or wasn't supposed to state.
And it does not state "Beerus is the most powerful character to appear in this new movie!", it uses the word history, which very strongly implies the past.
hleV wrote:This doesn't excuse the wrong statement. If you leave a surprise at the end, don't make statements that would turn out wrong.
That more than excuses the statement, if that was their intention. But you can't really label that as a false statement based solely on your interpretation of the nature of the statement itself.
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