What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
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What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
Is there some kind of cultural reason as to why Muten Roshi starts spewing blood from his nose every time he gets a glimpse at nudity? I'm surprised I haven't asked this sooner because I thought this was actually normal as a kid. But, seriously, it's really bizarre.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
Well when men get "excited" an increase of blood flows to a certain part of their body...but instead of showing that they just have the blood spew out of their nose.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
Standard Japanese trope. You'll also see lots of sneezing when another character is talking about someone who's not there (a good example being Goku sneezing while flying his way toward Kaio's for the first time); our equivalent would be the phrase "ears are ringing" when someone's talking about you.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
It's a Japanese cultural thing that is implemented into a lot of anime and manga. Nosebleeds are associated with arousment or sexual excitement in Japanese folk belief.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
Hm, this is kind of an uneducated hypothesis, but my guess is that it is meant to demonstrate the blood rushing due to arousal... It would just be inappropriate for it be shown in the form of a hard-on, so we get nose bleeds instead. I don't know, can't see how else that could make any sense. It's actually common in (modern-day?) anime.
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It's pretty common in manga and anime, like the snot bubble when someone is sleeping.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
It's a visual shorthand for sexual excitement. It's used with both men and women, though more common with men, as it serves as a convenient euphemism for an erection.Insertclevername wrote:Is there some kind of cultural reason as to why Muten Roshi starts spewing blood from his nose every time he gets a glimpse at nudity? I'm surprised I haven't asked this sooner because I thought this was actually normal as a kid. But, seriously, it's really bizarre.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
There is also the large sweat drop to show embarassment.
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A friend of mine once suggested that this happens because Muten Roshi is old, therefore when he has such nosebleeds, it is actually a stroke, thus showing Toriyama's ''genius'' when coming up with things like this.
I told him that he was probably incorrect, though.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
This is great, we should just fill this thread with Japanese anime tropes throughout the DB and DBZ animated series. They really remind me that I'm watching a product from outside my country of origin and I do enjoy most of the tropes since most were created for comedic effect.mAcChaos wrote:There is also the large sweat drop to show embarassment.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
Then we should include the belly rumbling whenever Goku is hungry, as this is a staple in many other animes as well.
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There's also that weird thing they do to taunt people, where they pull down one eyelid and stick their tongue out.RocktheDragon wrote:This is great, we should just fill this thread with Japanese anime tropes throughout the DB and DBZ animated series. They really remind me that I'm watching a product from outside my country of origin and I do enjoy most of the tropes since most were created for comedic effect.mAcChaos wrote:There is also the large sweat drop to show embarassment.
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For those who are interested, Anime News Network wrote a brief article ("Anime Physics") about the use of nosebleeds in anime.
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Haha Dude I've heard that before hahaVegettoEX wrote:Standard Japanese trope. You'll also see lots of sneezing when another character is talking about someone who's not there (a good example being Goku sneezing while flying his way toward Kaio's for the first time); our equivalent would be the phrase "ears are ringing" when someone's talking about you.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
I always thought it was supposed to be ears itching when someone was talking about you. That's what I've heard people say before, anyway.Standard Japanese trope. You'll also see lots of sneezing when another character is talking about someone who's not there (a good example being Goku sneezing while flying his way toward Kaio's for the first time); our equivalent would be the phrase "ears are ringing" when someone's talking about you.
And of course, when I was told that as a little kid I went on to expand it out into goofy versions for the other senses, like "your nose itches when someone's smelling you." XD
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
Other shows have ladies having nosebleeds? Only one I've seen was on Sekirei, but didn't know others had women nosebleeding.SaiyaJedi wrote:It's a visual shorthand for sexual excitement. It's used with both men and women, though more common with men, as it serves as a convenient euphemism for an erection.Insertclevername wrote:Is there some kind of cultural reason as to why Muten Roshi starts spewing blood from his nose every time he gets a glimpse at nudity? I'm surprised I haven't asked this sooner because I thought this was actually normal as a kid. But, seriously, it's really bizarre.
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Quite a few, despite it being much more common with male characters. Minako/Sailor V/Sailor Venus has had a couple in both Sailor Moon and the Sailor V manga, for example. Although this example was certainly less explosive than most of Kame'sennin's...Super Sonic wrote:Other shows have ladies having nosebleeds? Only one I've seen was on Sekirei, but didn't know others had women nosebleeding.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
That's a western trope too, however. I think that one's pretty universal.garnetjester wrote:Then we should include the belly rumbling whenever Goku is hungry, as this is a staple in many other animes as well.
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And is falling on their heads like a facepalm or something?
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.
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Re: What's with Kamesennin's nose bleeds?
Showing the pinky finger indicates that you/another person is in a relationship/lovers ect.
Intertwining pinky fingers means that you are making a promise.
Those are the specific things I have noticed.
Intertwining pinky fingers means that you are making a promise.
Those are the specific things I have noticed.
That's how I have interpreted it, like a Japanese version of "d'oh!".DBZ Mick wrote:And is falling on their heads like a facepalm or something?