MangaUK Licenses Dragon Ball Z Kai for DVD & Blu-ray
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I've been keeping close attention to this particular thread the past few days since I was aware of the release of Season One here in the UK. I see that it has the Kenji Yamamoto score, and this is something which may extend into Season Two depending on how MangaUK/Funimation/whoever is involved produces this set.
I apologise if there are already a plethora of threads about this. It seems that a majority of users here prefer the original Kai (Yamamoto) score to that of the replacement (Z) score. What I was curious about was if this music was better than the Japanese Z score entirely, or just the small selection of tracks used in the later episodes of Kai? I suppose this is all down to opinion really. If I was to collect these UK season releases and watch Kai though then I would like to keep this in mind (and of course form my own opinion, although the idea of only using a few songs seems strange). IIRC the placement of the DBZ score was criticised by many, which could be a factor into why I have read praise for the Yamamoto score.
I also wanted to ask if you guys think that the price of Season One will increase considerably over time due to the use of the Yamamoto score? I would like to get it whilst it is at a good price. Currently it is sub £30 which I'm not sure what to make of it. I purchased the Orange Bricks for £20 - £30 each (varied by season) when it came out in 2012/2013, and I particularly liked the original Japanese music. The transition of scores in Kai would not put me off watching it, but I just wanted to hear some of your thoughts about the scores.
I apologise if there are already a plethora of threads about this. It seems that a majority of users here prefer the original Kai (Yamamoto) score to that of the replacement (Z) score. What I was curious about was if this music was better than the Japanese Z score entirely, or just the small selection of tracks used in the later episodes of Kai? I suppose this is all down to opinion really. If I was to collect these UK season releases and watch Kai though then I would like to keep this in mind (and of course form my own opinion, although the idea of only using a few songs seems strange). IIRC the placement of the DBZ score was criticised by many, which could be a factor into why I have read praise for the Yamamoto score.
I also wanted to ask if you guys think that the price of Season One will increase considerably over time due to the use of the Yamamoto score? I would like to get it whilst it is at a good price. Currently it is sub £30 which I'm not sure what to make of it. I purchased the Orange Bricks for £20 - £30 each (varied by season) when it came out in 2012/2013, and I particularly liked the original Japanese music. The transition of scores in Kai would not put me off watching it, but I just wanted to hear some of your thoughts about the scores.
Re: MangaUK Licenses Dragon Ball Z Kai for DVD & Blu-ray
It's not that Yamamoto is better, it's that the way they placed Kikuchi's music back in afterwards was incredibly poor. Moreover, Kai was created with the intention of being its own thing; using Yamamoto's music is a big part of that. Some of us feel that replacing it is just as objectionable as replacing Kikuchi with Faulconer in Z. Let each show be watched as intended.
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Better yet, I wonder if they'll release episodes 96-98 with the Yamamoto BGM, which were supposed to have it, but never did?
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I wish, but I'd say they will stop using the yamamoto score where ever funnimation's US release did. I think they stopped at part 4 or 5?DB1984 wrote:Better yet, I wonder if they'll release episodes 96-98 with the Yamamoto BGM, which were supposed to have it, but never did?
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Part 4 is when they stopped using itGdugz wrote:I wish, but I'd say they will stop using the yamamoto score where ever funnimation's US release did. I think they stopped at part 4 or 5?DB1984 wrote:Better yet, I wonder if they'll release episodes 96-98 with the Yamamoto BGM, which were supposed to have it, but never did?
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FTFYNaruto6583 wrote:Part 4 is the last one to feature itGdugz wrote:I wish, but I'd say they will stop using the yamamoto score where ever funnimation's US release did. I think they stopped at part 4 or 5?DB1984 wrote:Better yet, I wonder if they'll release episodes 96-98 with the Yamamoto BGM, which were supposed to have it, but never did?
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After episode 52 aired, Nicktoons TV continued to use the Yamamoto BGM up to episode 63.
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Honestly, I prefer Yamamoto to Kikuchi all around, with the possible exception of pre-Z Kikuchi. I'm really hoping we get the entirety of Season 2 with Yamamoto too.madged1 wrote:I've been keeping close attention to this particular thread the past few days since I was aware of the release of Season One here in the UK. I see that it has the Kenji Yamamoto score, and this is something which may extend into Season Two depending on how MangaUK/Funimation/whoever is involved produces this set.
I apologise if there are already a plethora of threads about this. It seems that a majority of users here prefer the original Kai (Yamamoto) score to that of the replacement (Z) score. What I was curious about was if this music was better than the Japanese Z score entirely, or just the small selection of tracks used in the later episodes of Kai? I suppose this is all down to opinion really. If I was to collect these UK season releases and watch Kai though then I would like to keep this in mind (and of course form my own opinion, although the idea of only using a few songs seems strange). IIRC the placement of the DBZ score was criticised by many, which could be a factor into why I have read praise for the Yamamoto score.
I also wanted to ask if you guys think that the price of Season One will increase considerably over time due to the use of the Yamamoto score? I would like to get it whilst it is at a good price. Currently it is sub £30 which I'm not sure what to make of it. I purchased the Orange Bricks for £20 - £30 each (varied by season) when it came out in 2012/2013, and I particularly liked the original Japanese music. The transition of scores in Kai would not put me off watching it, but I just wanted to hear some of your thoughts about the scores.
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Actually, USA had Yamamoto score up to Part 4, if i remember correctly, it was Australian release that switched score at Part 4, due to its delay
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If that's the case, does anybody know if Manga are using Funi's masters or Madman's?coola wrote:Actually, USA had Yamamoto score up to Part 4, if i remember correctly, it was Australian release that switched score at Part 4, due to its delay
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I think it's either Madman or a new set supplied by TOEI. Becuase the FUNi menus are different, (assuming their season sets had same menu as parts). Also apparently MangaUK don't sub license Z products from FUNi they go direct to TOEI hence why no FUNimation logos are ever on their Dragonball releases and why BoG release had a different menu and different subtitles etc and why they were able to strip extras off the Blu-ray and shove them on DVD disc.90sDBZ wrote:If that's the case, does anybody know if Manga are using Funi's masters or Madman's?coola wrote:Actually, USA had Yamamoto score up to Part 4, if i remember correctly, it was Australian release that switched score at Part 4, due to its delay
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Woah if thats the case then theres a good chance we could get a full yamamoto releaseBaggie_Saiyan wrote:I think it's either Madman or a new set supplied by TOEI. Becuase the FUNi menus are different, (assuming their season sets had same menu as parts). Also apparently MangaUK don't sub license Z products from FUNi they go direct to TOEI hence why no FUNimation logos are ever on their Dragonball releases and why BoG release had a different menu and different subtitles etc and why they were able to strip extras off the Blu-ray and shove them on DVD disc.90sDBZ wrote:If that's the case, does anybody know if Manga are using Funi's masters or Madman's?coola wrote:Actually, USA had Yamamoto score up to Part 4, if i remember correctly, it was Australian release that switched score at Part 4, due to its delay
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For up to Season 2 yeah that could be likely, but for Season 3 or 4 I doubt it since I don't think the uncut dub was ever mixed with the Yamamoto score.
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Oh yeah forgot thatBaggie_Saiyan wrote:For up to Season 2 yeah that could be likely, but for Season 3 or 4 I doubt it since I don't think the uncut dub was ever mixed with the Yamamoto score.
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I just hope Manga or TOEI or whoever don't get wind of this, I was about to tweet Manga the other day thanking them for including the score but thought better not incase
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Please dont bring it to their attention before I buy itBaggie_Saiyan wrote:I just hope Manga or TOEI or whoever don't get wind of this, I was about to tweet Manga the other day thanking them for including the score but thought better not incase
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Actually Manga's release of the GT sets included both the Funimation logo and their own. I'm not sure about the DB and Z sets though.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I think it's either Madman or a new set supplied by TOEI. Becuase the FUNi menus are different, (assuming their season sets had same menu as parts). Also apparently MangaUK don't sub license Z products from FUNi they go direct to TOEI hence why no FUNimation logos are ever on their Dragonball releases and why BoG release had a different menu and different subtitles etc and why they were able to strip extras off the Blu-ray and shove them on DVD disc.90sDBZ wrote:If that's the case, does anybody know if Manga are using Funi's masters or Madman's?coola wrote:Actually, USA had Yamamoto score up to Part 4, if i remember correctly, it was Australian release that switched score at Part 4, due to its delay
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So I guess once Season 3 is released it will switch to the Kikuchi score? I hope Season 2 will still have the Yamamoto score intact. Guess we'll have to wait till September to find out.
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On that note, one of the Amazon reviews (and some professional ones) makes a big deal about the Yamamoto score being included, so the chances of Toei/Manga finding out are reasonably high.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I just hope Manga or TOEI or whoever don't get wind of this, I was about to tweet Manga the other day thanking them for including the score but thought better not incase
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Are you sure? Just had a look on Amazon and couldn't find the FUNimation logo on the GT packaging unless you mean when the disc plays? (Which would make sense since I assume Toei gave Manga FUNi's masters). Been thinking more and it makes sense because as I recall Toei were the first to confirm that the original Dragon Ball and GT was being released here, right? Apparently something happened between Manga and FUNi's relationship and titles such as Fairy Tail got cancelled here and I was worried about what that meant for Dragon Ball but then I was told not to worry becuase Manga deal directly with TOEI/Fox and then things started to make sense.90sDBZ wrote:Actually Manga's release of the GT sets included both the Funimation logo and their own. I'm not sure about the DB and Z sets though.
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I believe it's the same for One Piece in that Manga go directly to TOEI becuase that explains how they were able to release the movies that FUNimation haven't released yet.