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Villains that never met Goku

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:38 pm

So which villains never met Goku in the anime, manga and movies? So far I can list down:

#17 (Not counting Super 17)
Bio Broli
Bojack and his gang
Cui
Dodoria
Guldo (Manga only)
King Cold (Manga only)
Saibamen
Zarbon

Any others?
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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Marco Polo » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:50 pm

Interesting topic!

Saibamen come to mind.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by JoshuaSaiyajin » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:57 pm

He's never met King Cold
Well in the manga that this

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by ZombieVito » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:02 pm

Saibamen
Cui
Dodoria
Zarbon
Guldo
King Cold
17

I think that's it.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Cetra » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:09 pm

Zombie wrote:Saibamen
Cui
Dodoria
Zarbon
Guldo
King Cold
17

I think that's it.
In GT he met Goku if we consider Super 17's consciousness seemed to be the corrupted consciousness of Lapis instead of vanishing by fusing with that Machine Mutant. He seemed to be corrupted and remained that as Super 17 instead of actually vanishing by fusing consciousnesses. I guess that other 17 really just kinda had a brainwashing effect but was no complete individual being.
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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:20 pm

Well, just as you said, Android 17. As Super 17 is not really the same character.

Well, if we count every single part of franchise here, then:

Chilled, Bibidi, Mamba, Lord Yao, Susha, Torga. All the saiyans shown in Bardock: Father of Goku (besides obviously Vegeta and Nappa), if we count them as such. All Tuffles shown in GT and Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans/ Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans as well, with probable exception of Tuffle King (though Baby is not exactly him) and Dr. Raichi, who also wasn't seen by Goku in his real body, only in Ghost form, original Super Saiyan, being it villain or not, all of saibaman, Garlick (not Junior), Mustard, Vinegar, Salt and Spice (Garlick Jr's henchmen from Garlick Jr arc in DBZ), Future Androids 17 and 18 (not met by Goku from both timelines), Future Dr. Gero, Present Cell, Future Trunks' timeline Cell, Tagoma (not sure about it though), whatever guy was
in RoF, Shisumi, if I am not mistaken (again not sure), Maloja, Dr. Collie, as well as Lord Jaguar, all evil Gods of Destruction (as for now :D ), King Cold (in one timeline only), pretty much all of Bojack's crew as well, I guess.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:22 pm

I almost forgot about the Saibamen. Well Bibidi and Chilled before Goku's time, I was talking about villains in Goku's life time.
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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:24 pm

If you want to get technical, Evil Buu/Grey Buu. Goku never met him.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:27 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I almost forgot about the Saibamen. Well Bibidi and Chilled before Goku's time, I was talking about villains in Goku's life time.
Well, guess, saiyans besides Vegeta, Nappa and Raditz don't count as well then, just like Tuffles. What about Mamba and others, it is arguable if Goku was alive at that point. And I am not even sure if Android 18 and 17 were even ready by the point of Future Goku dying, but they certainly existed as simple humans at that point, as well as Future Dr. Gero. Garlick... I am not sure in what age their confrontation with Kami took place. Most likely before Goku was born, though. Present Cell counts, I guess, while Future one... Not sure as well, as he should have been in development, but when this development started, I don't know. If it started right after Goku killed King Cold (in that timeline), then I guess, he counts as well.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Doctor. » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:28 pm

Tagoma and Shisami too.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:30 pm

Doctor. wrote:Tagoma and Shisami too.
Yeah, I mentioned them. But I am not sure if they met Goku or not, because I didn't watch a movie.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Marco Polo » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:35 pm

Krillin's bullies from Orin Temple.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:50 pm

Marco Polo wrote:Krillin's bullies from Orin Temple.
Them too. Not sure if they count as villains though. And Goku (maybe, don't remember well) met one or two of them in 21st World Martial Tournament during their fight with Krillin.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by One_Instance » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:26 pm

I don't think Goku ever met the Bio-Men from The World's Strongest.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:35 pm

Actually, there are a handful of villains Goku's never met now that I think about:

- Commander Red
- Colonel Violet
- Captain Dark
- Appule
- Raspberry
- Blueberry
- Lord Jaguar's Bio-Warriors
- Dr. Wheelo Bio-Man
- Van Zant
- Smitty

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Kakacarrottop » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:22 pm

The Arlians and Ilusion Saiyans
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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Dyno » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:24 pm

Actually, Kakarot not even met King Cold as he was the one who defeated him... Future Kakarot, of course. Don't know if you aren't accepting other timeline, but in general, Kakarot indeed met King Cold. And that was stated in the manga.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Marco Polo » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:37 pm

Dyno wrote:Actually, Kakarot not even met King Cold as he was the one who defeated him... Future Kakarot, of course. Don't know if you aren't accepting other timeline, but in general, Kakarot indeed met King Cold. And that was stated in the manga.
Goku met King Cold in Hell in anime filler.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Dyno » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:42 pm

Indeed, that's why he put "manga only". But as I said, even in the manga, Kakarot met him.

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Re: Villains that never met Goku

Post by Cipher » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:07 pm

He never met General Blue's B-squad (the ones who attacked Kame House), right? And of course Violet and Copper, as far as named Red Ribbon officers who escaped his wrath.

Wasn't present to meet any of Garlic Jr.'s new henchmen in his arc in the anime either.

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